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llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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Am I not allowed to go negative?

Posted by llewellyn237__ on Feb 27, 2013 2:03 AM

Do most people expect Prestige Masters to own every game?

 

Do they not understand that there's challenges to be done that make it very difficult to do well?

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  • anto2012 Novice 109 posts since
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    anto2012     Feb 27, 2013 2:15 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    most of them do

  • SpoonsV Apprentice 532 posts since
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    SpoonsV     Feb 27, 2013 2:21 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    Nah, I know that someone who is PM has probably just played more than me. I don't think it necessarily depicts that any extra above average skills are present.

     

    Having said that, you'd think that someone who has played the game so much would dominate under any normal circumstances.

     

    Everyone has a bad day though.

    • anto2012 Novice 109 posts since
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      anto2012     Feb 27, 2013 2:47 AM (in response to SpoonsV)

      i was playing gun game last night there were 3 Pm's in the game 2 fake the other pm went 30-0 for 6 games edited for SpoonsV

      • SpoonsV Apprentice 532 posts since
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        SpoonsV     Feb 27, 2013 2:30 AM (in response to anto2012)

        And?

        • anto2012 Novice 109 posts since
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          anto2012     Feb 27, 2013 2:44 AM (in response to SpoonsV)

          you been a smart ass? what do you mean and!!!

          • SpoonsV Apprentice 532 posts since
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            SpoonsV     Feb 27, 2013 2:58 AM (in response to anto2012)

            Are you being a smartass is what you should have said. There you are, now I have been a smartass.

             

            What does your post prove? I'm guessing you have a point? You responded to me so I assume you were trying to say something?

             

            Of course some PMs are beasts, just like some Rk1 players are beasts.

             

            Whats your point and how does it contribute to this conversation?

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              extremefight49     Feb 27, 2013 3:29 AM (in response to SpoonsV)

              Stay on topic and avoid the personal attacks, guys.

               

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            • BanHaMMer Expert 2,235 posts since
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              BanHaMMer     Feb 27, 2013 6:18 AM (in response to SpoonsV)

              SpoonsV wrote:

               

              Are you being a smartass is what you should have said. There you are, now I have been a smartass.

               

              What does your post prove? I'm guessing you have a point? You responded to me so I assume you were trying to say something?

               

              Of course some PMs are beasts, just like some Rk1 players are beasts.

               

              Whats your point and how does it contribute to this conversation?

               

              ... get a room.

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    SanAndreasPsycho     Feb 27, 2013 2:34 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    Just got out of a game where some guy was complaining about his team. It's so annoying because someone has to lose, and there's always going to be someone who is better than you. Maybe not in that lobby, but eventually we all lose to someone.

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    theroc23     Feb 27, 2013 2:34 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    As long as it's not TDM. ;-)

  • phxs72 Master 3,627 posts since
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    phxs72     Feb 27, 2013 3:09 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    Some folks can't feel good about themselves if they aren't putting someone else down.  Just be glad that your not one of them.  I had a guy last night complain that I was using a Skorpion to which I responded "Wow you are playing a 6 v 3 (his favor) and you're actually complaining about what gun somebody is using."  He didn't have any more opinions.  I had another guy proclaiming his greatness and my teams lack thereof after we had just spent the match watching him and a couple other members of his team blink their way across the map.  It was probably just a bad connection on their end but since their blinking only seemed to occur when they saw me and I had the advantage, I reported him for cheating just in case.  Then I found a new lobby rather than continuing to put up with what might have been a lag switcher.

     

    But back to your main point, some people do expect PMs to be beastly in every match.  So when they get the better of them (even if the PM was going knife only) they feel so important that they just have to say something about it.  It's rather pitiful that their feelings of self worth are so tied into beating someone that they consider to be the superior player just because they've played the game long enough to be a higher prestige.  I'll say this though, if you do decide to play up to your normal standards the next game and put a beatdown on them, you can pretty much guarentee that they won't stay in the lobby.  Their fragile egos can't handle it.

    • llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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      llewellyn237__     Feb 27, 2013 4:09 AM (in response to phxs72)

      Well said.

       

      The truth of the matter, as far as I'm concerned, is I'm no longer very good at CoD. I have awesome games but I'm very often average. I'm one of those who got there by time played rather than beasting it in 7 days. My days of being awesome at video games are long gone.

      • Highwayman0226 Apprentice 1,264 posts since
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        Highwayman0226     Feb 27, 2013 4:39 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

             I'm in the same boat.  12 days in, almost there.  I like trying out different guns and stradegies, as I find running around with a SMG gets boring (very quickly).  I'm a little older now, so my eyes and reactions aren't what they used to be, and the connectivity of this game is so bad, it's hard to tell if you are playing poorly or if lag is holding you down.

         

             Mute all is where it's at, this generation is lost.

        • SpoonsV Apprentice 532 posts since
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          SpoonsV     Feb 27, 2013 4:45 AM (in response to Highwayman0226)

          I find the excuse of reaction times and age for being bad at this game gets very boring (very quickly).

           

          How do we know its lag you're experiencing and not just your old eyes dropping their FPS rate?

          • Highwayman0226 Apprentice 1,264 posts since
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            Highwayman0226     Feb 27, 2013 5:01 AM (in response to SpoonsV)

                 It's fact that your vision starts to degrade after 20.  Not making excuses, and I don't particularly think I'm bad, just stating facts.

          • llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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            llewellyn237__     Feb 27, 2013 5:18 AM (in response to SpoonsV)

            Hardly an excuse for some people. It's reality. (I did lol at "eyes dropping their FPS rate" haha)

             

            I don't know what it is for me... maybe it's the evolution of games, especially CoD. I have thought about my hand/eye coordination deteriorating over the years but, since I'm only 31, haven't put it down to that at all.

             

            When I was younger I could put 50p in a Street Fighter 2 machine and beast it until the end, I would draw a crowd around me at the arcades or youth club. NO ONE beat me, just like no one could on SNES.

            My KDR in CoD4 is 3.56. 99.9% of games had over three times the amount of kills over deaths, the 0.1% had more. I was one of those who would do "Misery Loves Company" to get another Chopper.

             

            Maybe I'm burnt out

  • rlbl Master 6,037 posts since
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    rlbl     Feb 27, 2013 5:06 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    Anyone who equates a prestige level (or any online stat) to skill... is an idiot.

    • fLoRiDa_KrAcKeR1 Expert 1,145 posts since
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      fLoRiDa_KrAcKeR1     Feb 27, 2013 5:10 AM (in response to rlbl)

      Agreed. Nice short , sweet answer.

    • llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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      llewellyn237__     Feb 27, 2013 5:15 AM (in response to rlbl)

      Now, yes. First few months of CoD4 release, no.

      • rlbl Master 6,037 posts since
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        rlbl     Feb 27, 2013 5:39 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

        I will give you that..

         

        From that I will assume (I did not play COD4 in those 1st few months)

         

        That generally better players could level faster

         

        But it still begs the question:

         

        Player A and Player B are equally as good (better than the avergae player) and they reach the option to prestige at the same time:

        • Player A says meh I like what I got
        • Player B says hmm, I wonder what this does and hits it

         

        Player B becomes feared, Player A keeps chugging along

         

        but... They both are still equally as good.  See what I did there? Some people would say "That is a corner case".. From what I have seen, up until this installment, it isn't.

         

        In BO2 there is absolutely no reason not to prestige(mainly because you lose nothing); in previous titles you could barely get into a lobby with someone who could move forward, but chose not too (be it 0, 1, 2nd prestige etc...)

        • Highwayman0226 Apprentice 1,264 posts since
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          Highwayman0226     Feb 27, 2013 5:43 AM (in response to rlbl)

               There is actually a reason to prestige in this too.  They don't give you enough tokens to unlock everything.

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            BanHaMMer     Feb 27, 2013 6:24 AM (in response to Highwayman0226)

            Agreed, I'm staying at Prestige 9 / 55. No matter how crappy the Prestige 9 emblem is, and it is crappy compared to 8 ~

            Highwayman0226 wrote:

             

                 There is actually a reason to prestige in this too.  They don't give you enough tokens to unlock everything.

        • llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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          llewellyn237__     Feb 27, 2013 5:54 AM (in response to rlbl)

          Yeah, totally know what you mean.

           

          You might know of a YouTuber call SandyRavage... he's one who never hits the Prestige button.

          • rlbl Master 6,037 posts since
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            rlbl     Feb 27, 2013 5:58 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

            Exactly... and I used to love watching his vidoes because he would go rank and detroy the enemy with waves and waves of AC130s...

             

            SandyRavage and AkimboSlice (neither of his accounts were ever prestiged)

            • llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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              llewellyn237__     Feb 27, 2013 6:14 AM (in response to rlbl)

              He's got a few more accounts since then, too.  SmoothBunz is one of them, can't remember the others.

  • Im_A_Drag85 Apprentice 1,111 posts since
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    Im_A_Drag85     Feb 27, 2013 6:43 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    seeing a PM in a lobby is quick way for BO2 players to immediately place a stereotype on somebody before looking at their stats or even playing against them for more than one match or at all for that matter.

     

    Personally, i like to see what a PM is capable of especially when their 8 yrs old and talking crap to everyone in the lobby... lol

  • ZombieMan73 Newbie 53 posts since
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    ZombieMan73     Feb 27, 2013 7:06 AM (in response to llewellyn237__)

    I know exactly what you mean by playing the objective sometimes makes you go negative. If I would have had just one teammate with me on soooooo many occasions, I could have captured countless objectives and might have won many more games. But there is only so much one person can do.

     

    I had a guy this morning on my team complaining after a match about more then half of our team going negative (mind you, he was the top guy from our team, but captured nothing). He said, "Campers should never go negative." It just baffled him how they could. I personally don't care about stats of any kind. I do my best and work the objective and play to have fun. I do get upset at people that run around and just shoot the ground, blow themselves up all the time, and basically do everything possible to annoy others, but I can always mute and I can always change lobbies.

     

    People need to realize that not everyone out there is a wannbe pro or cares about stats. Let's just get back to having fun.

    • llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
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      llewellyn237__     Feb 27, 2013 7:20 AM (in response to ZombieMan73)

      ZombieMan73 wrote:

       

       

      People need to realize that not everyone out there is a wannbe pro or cares about stats. Let's just get back to having fun.

      The bottom line of it all...

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