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FixBlops2 Expert 2,020 posts since
Dec 6, 2012

No one cares about winning in Public Matches, so why even bother

Posted by FixBlops2 on Feb 25, 2013 2:21 AM

Why even bother going for the win and playing the objectives when you or me are the only people in the match who go for the win, the other players go for high scorestreaks and K/D, even in objective game modes is K/D more important to many people than winning, they don't help capturing flags even when they stay in front of it, they camp the whole match behind a barrel to get their toystreaks and at the end of the match they get more XP for ignoring the objectives. Point is, why even bother with winning in public matches when its so pointless.

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  • Arti4 Novice 349 posts since
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    Arti4     Feb 25, 2013 2:29 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    A system I would love:

     

    For TDM everyone has Specialist and there are no killstreaks.

    The game ends and there is a winning team.

    Each individual in the winning team earn a care package for the next game in this lobby- how well they performed determines their odds for high end killstreaks. But the catch is, they still need to capture their own care package to receive it.

     

    Anyway, a thought I had that would give incentive for players to win and stay for the next game. Also losing players / teams will not be overwhelmed with killstreaks and will always feel like they have a chance to gain a killstreak even when losing (stealing other teams CPs).

  • ooOutraageousoo Novice 106 posts since
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    ooOutraageousoo     Feb 25, 2013 2:29 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    KD basically killed CoD, for the reasons you have mentioned. Very few people actually play for the win preferring to pad their KD instead.

     

    I'm glad these kids aren't RL soldiers or we'd all be speaking a different language.

  • Restore_Hardcore Expert 2,316 posts since
    Dec 10, 2012
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    Restore_Hardcore     Feb 25, 2013 2:31 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    Personally I don't care about scorestreaks, I use the first 3 and I do fine. I mainly play HC TDM cause HC is bare.

  • FixBlops2 Expert 2,020 posts since
    Dec 6, 2012
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    FixBlops2     Feb 25, 2013 2:53 AM (in response to ooOutraageousoo)

    The developers aren't so smart to think that far.

     

    The community has asked the developers to remove K/D tracing out of objective gamemodes since years and the developers have always ignored the request.

     

    In my opinion should K/D only be in TDM and FFA where the goal is to kill the enemy, in objective gamemodes it should be only SPM and  W/L, also the EXP for kills should be lowered.

     

    Why even having so many objective gameodes in the game when everyone plays them like its TDM with the exception of SnD due to no respawn.

  • ooOutraageousoo Novice 106 posts since
    Feb 23, 2013
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    ooOutraageousoo     Feb 25, 2013 3:09 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    FixBlops2 wrote:

     

    The developers aren't so smart to think that far.

     

    The community has asked the developers to remove K/D tracing out of objective gamemodes since years and the developers have always ignored the request.

     

    In my opinion should K/D only be in TDM and FFA where the goal is to kill the enemy, in objective gamemodes it should be only SPM and  W/L, also the EXP for kills should be lowered.

     

    Why even having so many objective gameodes in the game when everyone plays them like its TDM with the exception of SnD due to no respawn.

    Obj games should be won on Caps and Defends kills and deaths should be ignored IMO.

  • Darkdyllon Newbie 99 posts since
    Jan 22, 2013
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    Darkdyllon     Feb 25, 2013 3:17 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    i know what you mean man.

    today i was playing CTF to complete the challenges so i gotta capture flags and defend the flag carrier(although that challenge is a little bit unfair as you have to hug him and then kill someone to get the escort kill) and ofcourse winning the match and ending in the top 3.

    al of those dont matter as i do em naturaly with my play style but the problem for me is winning this thing.

    i had some one going for a VTOL warship thats ok that wil help the team out alot but then i saw something that i stil cant beleave

    he saved it for the entire round so i thought ok he is gonna go ham next round with it.

    what does he do he calls that thing in the last 20 seconds! and gets seriously 0 kills.

    i had 3 guys sitting in the back with 2 sentry guns and 1 flag carrier in the back camping at flag count 2.

     

    plz treyarch fix this pure kill whoring and make TDM more attrative since you cant do anything there with scorestreaks

  • schlag2dash Apprentice 328 posts since
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    schlag2dash     Feb 25, 2013 3:55 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    It doesn't matter that the game mode is but I always go for the win, Do i like to have a positve K/D. Absolutely, but that comes second to me.

    I play HC CTF, there are some matches that I'll will be doing horrible. Having a negative K/D. This is hurting my team, ill switch up and have someone else run and grab the flag if I cant. I'll help the team by defending our flag.No use for me to go running around giving up scorestreaks. Doesn't help us win.

     

    Also, when defending the flag carrier you dont need to hold his hand, i have seen that if there is an enemy near him and you kill him you get the escort kill no matter how close you are to the flag carrier. I am not sure what the specifics are for how close or how far away you have to be.

  • gern Novice 98 posts since
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    gern     Feb 25, 2013 5:45 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    I am not ashamed to say I don't care about winning and I also quit a match when the powerful scorestreaks are called, like dogs, swarms, warthog.  The scorestreaks are overpowered in BLOPS2.   This game needs the support streaks and support class that was in MW3.  I never quit matches in MW3.

  • brsox Expert 1,028 posts since
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    brsox     Feb 25, 2013 5:52 AM (in response to FixBlops2)

    Killstreaks need to go back to cod 4, WaW style. Low and not too powerful. I would like to see them end at about 8-10 kills max and not be too powerful. This game has become more about getting to that next killstreak while the gameplay is secondary.

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