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2108 Views 37 Replies Latest reply: Feb 13, 2013 11:30 AM by BanHaMMer RSS
llewellyn237__ Novice 469 posts since
Dec 21, 2012

I'll admit it... I can't compete...

Posted by llewellyn237__ on Feb 13, 2013 1:05 AM

This game is now dominated by SMG's.

 

I can no longer play my style I've played since CoD4 release and it's hard to adapt.

 

I'm getting owned and it's not enjoyable.

 

A good 96% of people are using nothing but SMG's and constantly sprinting.

 

In order to do well, I have to sit back and wait for them to come to me, which is boring and results in the "camper" cries.

 

Hardcore isn't too bad, I can enjoy games there.

 

Most killed by top 3...

PDW

MSMC

MP7

 

While I'm on this bit of a rant... EMP grenades are f'ing ridiculous.

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  • guenterthegoat Novice 219 posts since
    Aug 27, 2011
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    I raise my glass to you.

     

    And yes. EMP grenades are OP.

  • THE_SENSIBLE_ONE Calculating status... 112 posts since
    Mar 22, 2012
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    i can see where your coming from, but for me, the only guys i cant seem to get the better of are the ones running round with dual weild pistols, they either insta-kill me with the guns or they stab me from 5 metres away!!! lol 

  • SpoonsV Apprentice 532 posts since
    Dec 4, 2012
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    Hardcore does seem to be the place for people who can't compete on the proper game .

     

    I can't agree with your sweeping generalisation of players I'm afraid. Whenever I'm in a game there are a lot of snipers and AR users and if everyone is constantly sprinting that would mean they would be easy targets as they couldn't shoot quick enough.

     

    Very big of you to admit that you can't compete but the rest of your post sounds like you haven't been able to transition your play style and you are looking to name call others who are successful in an attempt to deflect some of your failiure away from yourself.

     

    Ah well... don't let the door hit ya and all that.

  • fLoRiDa_KrAcKeR1 Expert 1,191 posts since
    Jan 17, 2012
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    I only play HC , I'm honestly having fun with the game. Trying to get my vsat kill challenge has proven harder for me than I thought, but other than that I'm just having fun with it. If I get annoyed in a match with the other team, I use my trusty noobtube class and have even more fun hearing them on the death mic ! Love it !!

  • Izjar11 Master 7,314 posts since
    Nov 14, 2011
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    Mind sharing what it is that you've been doing since MW? Explain with detail your gamestyle.

    • BanHaMMer Expert 2,341 posts since
      Jun 8, 2012
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      Izjar11 wrote:

       

      Mind sharing what it is that you've been doing since MW? Explain with detail your gamestyle.

      "Busy body... "

      • Izjar11 Master 7,314 posts since
        Nov 14, 2011
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        BanHaMMer wrote:

         

        Izjar11 wrote:

         

        Mind sharing what it is that you've been doing since MW? Explain with detail your gamestyle.

        "Busy body... "

        Its called curiousity.

        • BanHaMMer Expert 2,341 posts since
          Jun 8, 2012
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          Izjar11 wrote:

           

          BanHaMMer wrote:

           

          Izjar11 wrote:

           

          Mind sharing what it is that you've been doing since MW? Explain with detail your gamestyle.

          "Busy body... "

          Its called curiousity.

           

          "meow"....

           

          kaa..thunk!!!!something killed my puddy tat 

          • Izjar11 Master 7,314 posts since
            Nov 14, 2011
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            Down kitty down

            • BanHaMMer Expert 2,341 posts since
              Jun 8, 2012
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              Izjar11 wrote:

               

              Down kitty down

               

              ha ha... roughly translated, "Mind sharing what it is that you've been doing since MW? Explain with detail your gamestyle."

               

              .....la la la la la la..lalala...go figure-row ???

              • Izjar11 Master 7,314 posts since
                Nov 14, 2011
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                I was just trying to determine why the OP states he cannot compete.......

                • BanHaMMer Expert 2,341 posts since
                  Jun 8, 2012
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                  Izjar11 wrote:

                   

                  I was just trying to determine why the OP states he cannot compete.......

                  I know

                   

                   

                  Your video is pricless btw it made me laugh until I had sore cheek muscle's

    • sstang1 Expert 1,744 posts since
      May 24, 2011
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      Wild guess I'd say he's probably an Assault Rifle user like myself - I will also admit adjusting to Black Ops 2 has been tougher than other COD's - My KDR and Win/Loss lower in this game for sure.

      • zvers Master 3,702 posts since
        May 24, 2011
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        But.....mine is similar or better. That's the weird part. I play TDM and Chaos Moshpit all the time. Prestige 8.

         

        I think that you need adjust only a few aspects of your gameplay to do fine in this game using your coveted playstyle from before (I know I will get flamed). I would have to see how you guy's or ladies play to let you know what's wrong. I don't  dominate all the time BUT I will always find a way to apply my play style against the headless chickens in the most affective manner possible. It's all about predicting where enemy players will come from and put yourself in a position to take advantage of that.

  • ladylucina Expert 1,758 posts since
    Dec 18, 2012
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    To be truthful with you mate I will play a game and i will play the enemy at their own game. for example i got into a game of TDM on hijacked and 5 out of the 6 enemy players stayed in the one house. I was on mic and told my team to play them at their own game and we stayed in the other house. I know this was boring as hell but we won that game. I don't really like the way i played that game but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. It sucks but if you get the win then its all good.

    • rlbl Master 6,209 posts since
      Sep 8, 2011
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      Yeah, this is why I *cough* don't *cough* play TDM very much

      • ladylucina Expert 1,758 posts since
        Dec 18, 2012
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        I am going that way to rlbl. For me its getting very boring. Love dom, always have. Want to start playing more gamemodes. But I will suck lol. Will only get better at a gamemode the more I play it though. I do love the objective gamemode. That is my style

    • BanHaMMer Expert 2,341 posts since
      Jun 8, 2012
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      ladylucina wrote:

       

      To be truthful with you mate I will play a game and i will play the enemy at their own game. for example i got into a game of TDM on hijacked and 5 out of the 6 enemy players stayed in the one house. I was on mic and told my team to play them at their own game and we stayed in the other house. I know this was boring as hell but we won that game. I don't really like the way i played that game but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. It sucks but if you get the win then its all good.

       

      house??? what house????

    • Highwayman0226 Apprentice 1,263 posts since
      Sep 22, 2012
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           I always say this.  If someone is camping hard in a building, let them have it.  They aren't going to get any kills if you don't walk through the door. 

      • zvers Master 3,702 posts since
        May 24, 2011
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        Is it camping to shoot out the window at the people running through the middle? This all goes back to: What is the definition of "camping"? To me, it's just a sore looser's way of deflecting blame from there poor decision.

        • Highwayman0226 Apprentice 1,263 posts since
          Sep 22, 2012
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               Nah, the only thing I consider camping is sitting in a corner waiting for someone to run by you.  Shooting out a window, holding an alley, these aren't camping.

    • Mojo33 Apprentice 626 posts since
      Nov 14, 2012
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      Such is the nature of online gaming. When you're playing against other "real" people, you will often need to adapt to what they do and adjust your gameplay accordingly in order to be successful.

       

      Sometimes that means stepping out of your "comfort zone" and play in a way you might not like or be used to, but if your usual tactics aren't working, well...

      • ladylucina Expert 1,758 posts since
        Dec 18, 2012
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        That's the thing though. Every player will have a different playstyle. I might use a certain playstyle and will work for 2-3 games in a row. But then I come up against different players with different styles and it wont work and I will have to change my style to suit. Unfortunately that is just the way it is. No matter how much it sucks that is the wonderful world of online gaming

        • Mojo33 Apprentice 626 posts since
          Nov 14, 2012
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          True and, in my opinion at least, that's what separates the truly skilled players from the rest: not only the ability to adapt quickly and effectively to your opponent's tactics, but also the ability to recognize the situations in which it is necessary to adapt.

  • Highwayman0226 Apprentice 1,263 posts since
    Sep 22, 2012
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         If you have a team that know how to control spawns, you can destroy the run n gun players.  The problem I encounter with holding down an area, is a guy end up spawning with a clear shot on me.  If your team isn't all trying to rush to the other teams graveyard, they'll keep spawning in the same spot, making thier pathing more predictable.

  • Blofeldt Calculating status... 11 posts since
    Nov 22, 2011
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    Just to add, I find that in Free-For-All, the only way to compete is to run around with a shotgun, certainly on the smaller maps. SMG's don't stand a chance.

  • PerkyNipzz Novice 355 posts since
    Apr 23, 2012
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    what exactly are you struggling to do well with?

    my best k/d's are with assault rifles and lmg's. smg's are vastly overrated.

  • Alky6 Apprentice 741 posts since
    Jan 18, 2013
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    llewellyn237__ wrote:

     

    In order to do well, I have to sit back and wait for them to come to me,

     

    Me too, I'm an old phart and can't run & gun for 10 minutes like a headless chicken

  • TheWaukeeKid Calculating status... 31 posts since
    Nov 8, 2012
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    I had a time adjusting to AR use in BOII. I found that as a so called "camper" a style that works against a team of "real players" (I mean rushers) is to have 4 to 5 place on the map to call hunting zones set up in an area and own it for 1 to 2 kills more if you feel that you are in a good place never more than 4. Run scavenger with duel bouncing betties. As you are transisitonaing to the next hunting ground drop BB's along the way against walls and in corners. This eleminates someone sneaking up behind you and once you are in your new position watch the screen light up with 100XP updates. Rusher are very predicitable as they run the same routes over and over, a so called camper like myself knows these routes and waits for them to run into my rounds downrange.  I am a bit different as I do not watch for K/D % or win loss. I stopped presitging after 3 as it really does nothing for me except making me re-earn the perks I enjoy.  I do not care if I go 25 and 2 or 2 and 25 in a match as the game has variables that I cannot control (lag time and connection to name a couple) I just have fun and play it as you trained it - cover and conceal always.

  • Haigo Newbie 12 posts since
    Oct 4, 2011
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    I don't know to be honest... i primarily use Assualt rifles and i usually do fine.  Only map i'll use a SMG on is Hijacked.

  • blkbumblebee17 Novice 243 posts since
    Jul 27, 2011
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    i rush all day everyday and i use to run ar´s also and rush but  since they are just to heavy to run properly i stick with my smgs.. however i can tell you rushers are easy to pick off if you play correctly.. i should know since i rush and have to counter other rushers..

     

    if you want to slow down a rusher who for the most part dont use tak mask a lot as far as ive seen use your equipment to your advantage.. if not shockcharges run sensor and or emps anything really that just slows us down a bit...

     

    also run c4 its how i get around corners knowing someone is dead but since you can toss them far and quickly with fast hands its a pain for anyone who rushes to run tru c4 and tactical's while trying to get the drop on an unsuspecting player or someone with slower reflexes..

     

    also run scav with fast hands it makes life so much easier when you can replenish your defenses and keep people at bay...

     

    i would also say while i hate target finder it works very well for long range play even mid range it is a pain in my ass when i have to play a user like this...

     

    run a riot shield its great for defensive play in open areas of no cover where a rusher may try to come tru....

     

    but mainly just know and learn where rushers seem to like to come from and it will help you out so much when you know where we are coming from...also run low streaks uav rc and hunter killer is a deadly combo because you can earn them quick and loop  them just as fast making it annoying for rushers to be on the mini map at all times..

     

    point is there is no reason to feel like you cant compete the smgs are good but not king you just have to adapt to each game... i mean if im not running scav in a class and i run out of bullets and pick up a sniper im not gonna keep rushing i will assume a snipers role or if i get a lmg im sitting back and watching the choke points until i find another weapon or die...

     

    you can always find a way to counter people just stay calm and think ahead adapt to whats going on and you will be fine

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