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2135 Views 37 Replies Latest reply: Feb 4, 2013 8:13 AM by ChronoZombie RSS
RallyOrDie Apprentice 505 posts since
Feb 2, 2013

Who here thinks snipers should be gimped?

Posted by RallyOrDie on Feb 4, 2013 1:42 AM

I sure don't. 

 

If you think snipers should be or shouldn't be gimped then please give a valid explanation on why you think that.  I am just trying to figure out what is the community's opinions on this subject. 

 

Thanks for your time.

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  • trickynicky Newbie 56 posts since
    Dec 24, 2012
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    Dont nerf the snipers , 

    WHO  am i gona kill with my FAL and SMR .... 

  • banned-again Expert 1,629 posts since
    Jul 26, 2012
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    snipers are  fine when used the way they are ment to be its cheapscoping that most people have a problem with

  • SitRepPro Expert 2,017 posts since
    Mar 28, 2012
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    Sniper rifles probably shouldn't have a faster ADS time than LMGs.  The longer ADS times is then rewarded with body multipliers that LMGs don't get.

  • Restore_Hardcore Expert 2,264 posts since
    Dec 10, 2012
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    I snipe with the HMR and AN 94 with Scopes, never had the patience with sniper rifles. Mad respect for legit snipers though.

    • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 727 posts since
      Dec 27, 2012
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      This.

       

      Also, I never had an issue with GOOD quickscopers in the original Blops, because it truly was a skill in that game.

       

      At the end of the day though, one-shot kill guns have always annoyed people, Snipers and Shottys will always be bitched about no matter how they are used, or how good/bad they are.

        • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 727 posts since
          Dec 27, 2012
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          Takes more time to scope in, takes more time for the scope to settle. Snipers were WAY harder to use in Blops 1 than they are in this game. I can go positive sniping in this game, and I *SUCK* with snipers.

           

          The thing I never got about auto aim abuse, if your only shooting when your aim gets 'stuck' onto someone, why even scope in? Surely a noscope would do the trick?

          • Run_N_Gunning_Camper Master 2,214 posts since
            Mar 27, 2012
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            There is no aim assist on the snipers in BO2. You have to be fully scoped before it kicks in. There is nothing to abuse on the snipers in BO2.

            • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 727 posts since
              Dec 27, 2012
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              Ah really, so then you kinda count on your aim 'grabbing' the enemy as you scope in?

               

              I never said I didn't think it was cheap, just that it was less annoying in Blops 1.

               

              Thankfully, most QSers blow...

              • Run_N_Gunning_Camper Master 2,214 posts since
                Mar 27, 2012
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                There is no sticky aim as you scope in. It doesn't work like how it works on MW2 and MW3. You need to be accurate as you scope in as there is no aim assist.

                 

                Try playing with a fully auto rifle and turn off aim assist. Try it even for just 1 game and let's see what happens.

            • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 727 posts since
              Dec 27, 2012
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              I dont mind getting killed by a sniper who is sniping from range. Never have, never will, they are using the weapon as intended.

                • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 727 posts since
                  Dec 27, 2012
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                  Ok, so if people found a way to make a pump-action shotty kill cross-map, that would be ok? Whats the point of having CQC weapons if they can get beaten out within their own range? One of the big moans from BO1 was that certain assault rifles rendered SMGs pointless as they killed just as fast (if not faster) up close.

                   

                  I'm not saying that it doesn't take skill to do etc etc. Just that it can be VERY galling when a weapon can perform outside its intended purpose. Hence the huge amount of whining over the KSG (even though its actually MEANT to have range!).

  • McZOMBI Expert 667 posts since
    Nov 12, 2011
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    I thought the original BO got sniping right but even if quickscoping can sometimes feel like and probably is a cheap exploit I'm guessing everybody has a positive K/D against the snipers in COD if there was a way of checking that. Don't think I've ever seen a sniper top the scoreboard in any game, ever. The only problem I have with snipers is that a majority of them don't contribute much to the team it seems.

  • DiNj0 Calculating status... 6 posts since
    Jan 11, 2013
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    I love to snipe (not qs,)the way i see it if u snipe pull out ur pistol in confined area.no way a sniper should be able to beat an smg up close!one thing that realy needs to be looked at in this game is the view kick or lack of it,fair enough if someones using toughnes but even if there not there is still almost zero view kick while getting shot.Blops1 had sniping perfect if you ask me.

      • DiNj0 Newbie 6 posts since
        Jan 11, 2013
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        Yeah i know that but in that game if you where scoped in and you get shot you end up aiming at the sky which is what should happen ,in bo2 you dont even flinch so there is no need for it to be used on a sniper class.I personaly use fast hands and used scout pro in bo1 so i can switch to my secondary quicker

  • phxs72 Master 3,627 posts since
    Feb 29, 2012
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    Snipers don't particularly bother me but I can understand why people get so bent by QSing.  The sniper rifle is the only gun in the game that can kill you up close and across the map in one bullet.  In reality it should be able to do that but people do get upset when a game mechanic is in place to make those up close kills so "easy" to come by.  Personally, I don't know that it's so easy to QS but some guys sure do make it look that way.  The way I see it, for every QSer that gets a kill on me there's probably 10 to 15 others that tried to QS me and died.  It's just not that big of a deal in my book.

  • Tinkerbell1704 Newbie 19 posts since
    Mar 31, 2012
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    Snipers only bothered me  when i first started playing COD. To be honest i dont like using them for the simple fact i feel the whole sniper thing is quick scoping and that is one thing i can never do :/ doesnt bother me if you can run around a map and get loads of kills by quick scoping go for it. does give me a good feeling tho when they get it wrong and i kill them not gonna lie

  • Kensi Newbie 59 posts since
    Sep 6, 2012
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    Only complaint I really have is the SVU. Its fire rate is outrages. I believe the fire rate or the damage needs to be nerfed on that one because it irritates the hell out of me when a sniper misses his first two shots then just spams bullets at me til I die. I also have the same issue with the XPR but I think it should have as much recoil as the Barrett 50. cal did on MW (since that's basically what it is) and honestly I think the ballista needs a bit of a bump on power for being a bolt action seeing as I get a lot of hit markers with it. I understand its supposed to be weaker but for what.....more handling? And on my opinion of quickscoping, I can do it but choose not to because its just too easy. Its never gonna go away because people have chosen to adapt it as a play style and you know what happens when you take that away...crying.

  • neekilla Calculating status... 16 posts since
    Jan 18, 2012
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    Gimped for having wack diamond sparkily camo guns! there was a whole clan of them with matching handbags giving each other high fives after each quickscoped kill.

  • btjustice Novice 105 posts since
    Nov 4, 2011
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    i think they should be nerfed, i started sniping last week in black ops 2 and it is to easy to get a kill. i only tried it to see why there were so many snipers in most games.

    i am on 1.16 k/d on tdm, sniping,  not great but considering i dont like using them.  if they were hard to use i would be o. something. because i am not a good player.

     

    you can miss by a good margin and still get an instant kill.  were as any other gun in the game you can hit them point blank and not get the kill. the hit box seams to be much bigger with a sniper rifle.  if thats true then that is unfair on the rest.

    maybe i am wrong, but i do know i miss the target many times and still get the kill. i do find once you kill a sniper with there own gun theý almost always come back for revenge which makes it even more fun. if they make it were you do have to hit the target chest and upwards to get a one shot kill then i would be happy about that. but i do think snipers get a bad rep because of the cheap scopers . i think if that was taken from the game completely then the snipers would not get such a bad rep. but thats just my opinion.

    • phxs72 Master 3,627 posts since
      Feb 29, 2012
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      I don't even no who JD2020 is.  But what I do know is that when the shotguns finally were given some range everyone complained and they are nerfed to shorter ranges.  However, sniper rifles aren't treated the same way dispite the complaining about their close quarters accuracy without needing to fully ADS.  It's a double standard but one that has been accepted by enough of the community to keep it around.  Whether anybody likes it or not, QSing is here to stay.  There's no point in arguing it.

  • ElitePepe Newbie 52 posts since
    May 25, 2012
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    IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH SKILL IT TAKES!!!!

     

    Seriously, nobody cares!

     

    nobody cares in the least, how many hours you sit around with your buddies twirling around 360ing or 720ing off of objects in custom games to practice for online kills.

     

    The bottom line is, its nothing but an annoyance to us regular players. I don't care, if you go 2-20 with your crappy sniper rifile that has lower ADS, wahhhhh wahhhh wahhhhh. Go cry more, those 2 kills you get should not be 360ing no scope headshotting me off a loadstar in a bedroom while i point a shotgun at your face.

     

    Its a broken part of the game. You can sit in denial all you want, because you sit around for hours on end watching "cool" trickshotting videos on youtube then try to replicate your favorite youtuber online.

     

    Its not fun, its not cool, its a game breaking issue that effects everyone makes this game terrible.

    • Scorr Apprentice 566 posts since
      Oct 8, 2012
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      Then he is just a bad player.

       

      And how is it gamebreaking..?

       

      Most average players can kill a quickscoper with ease, and not even notice them

    • ChronoZombie Novice 281 posts since
      Aug 26, 2012
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      The problem isn't quickscoping itself.  The problem is the map design of every single map.

       

      In MW2 my favorite weapon was the SPAS12, and I use shotguns in every game, so small maps work for me in general.  However, in WaW and MW2 I used all kinds of guns because the maps were varied, and in some maps you hade wide open zones where you could snipe at least 120 degrees in front of you.  In BO1 the width of sniping fields shrunk, in MW3 it was gone- MW3 was the worst game for sniping unless you liked camping corridors.  Sniping should be about finding the high ground and picking off enemies, but there is almost no high ground anymore.

       

      Now, I assume people don't like being sniped across the map, but that is the most fun kind of sniping there is, and when the field is wide open and you can shoot anywhere on the map, then you have to scope in more and search all over, instead of aiming at a 15 degree range at the end of a hallway and just pull the trigger if someone turns that corner.

       

      BO2 maps are slightly better than MW3, but not as good as they used to be for sniping.  If you make 'real" sniping impossible by virtue of map design and leave sniper rifles in the game, all that is left is quick scoping.  I barely touched snipers in MW3, then went back to the older games and realized how much I used to snipe.

       

      If the maps become wide open again, where I can find multiple places on each map and shoot you from almost anywhere, then quickscoping will become the rare annoyance it used to be.  I love "real" (game) sniping- bolt action from 150-200 yards away- but the maps after MW2 don't let me do it.

       

      So, people who hate being sniped, which is worse?  Being quick scoped or being killed from across the map?  Personally, I prefer the across the map, both giving and receiving.  Getting shot from that distance, I respect the shooter,and making the shot is much more fun than going for what is essentially a lucky trick shot.

       

      I don't care if people quickscope, I just think using the  weapon as intended is more fun.

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