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iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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Difference between a good player and a PRO.

Posted by iKon on Jan 27, 2013 10:54 AM

I've often wondered why some players make it to the pro level and why some players with great accuracy and gun skill never make it to that elite level and what the differences are. Through my gamebattles experience and watching live streams from pro tournaments I've determined its the extremely little things that make the biggest differences such as strategies, map control, and maneuverability. It is because of this that I made this PRO tip series that offers small but extremely effective things that can take you to the next level. Check it out if you want, and if not then thanks for reading. I promise these will make you better players if that's what youre striving for.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaGjHyHJMG8

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  • deamonomic Expert 1,603 posts since
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    deamonomic     Jan 27, 2013 11:00 AM (in response to iKon)

    To be honest, I already Know how to reach the next level. Thing is finding people who are willing to stick through the rough times of your team learning to work together effectively.

    • iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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      iKon     Jan 27, 2013 11:03 AM (in response to deamonomic)

      This is actually a really strong point. To be honest a friend of mine and myself have been gaming together for years with +2.5 KDs and +8.0 WLs but it's almost been impossible to find those other teammates. It's definitely hard to mesh and break the barrier.

      • deamonomic Expert 1,603 posts since
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        deamonomic     Jan 27, 2013 11:11 AM (in response to iKon)

        iKon wrote:

         

        This is actually a really strong point. To be honest a friend of mine and myself have been gaming together for years with +2.5 KDs and +8.0 WLs but it's almost been impossible to find those other teammates. It's definitely hard to mesh and break the barrier.

        I have been apart of Many GB teams going all the way back to CoD 3 days. One of the main things that screws new teams over is entering GB's like they are Pubs. They think that because they stomp everyone in pubs that they should do well here.

         

        They then go to GB and get a rude awakening. For example: back in WaW Me and some friends loved playing CTF. We never lost in pubs when we played together. never. We make a team on GB and get thrashed so hard that the others lose the heart to fight after just a few games.

         

        that team could have been a force to be reckoned with but instead it fell apart.

      • iivrruummii Master 3,892 posts since
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        iivrruummii     Jan 27, 2013 11:12 AM (in response to iKon)

        I have a ~2.3 K/D and ~7.5 W/L.  It is all about teamwork.

        • iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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          iKon     Jan 27, 2013 12:07 PM (in response to iivrruummii)

          I agree about teamwork. It also has to deal with doing scrims and private matches with your team to learn strategies for maps and gametypes. It ends up being quite the commitment to be the best.

          • imbored3111 Calculating status... 1 posts since
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            imbored3111     Jan 27, 2013 12:36 PM (in response to iKon)

            None of that really matters in this game.  It's all about connection....don't care how good you are.  I'm 2.26KD but the game blows because it is too unpredictable.  It's ALL about connection.

            • iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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              iKon     Jan 27, 2013 7:06 PM (in response to imbored3111)

              I do agree with this. The connection in BO2 is the worst weve seen in years, if not the worst of all time, I played for about 4 hours tonight with woodysgamertag and we had a pretty lengthy discussion about it. Just horrible.

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              Beaufighter     Jan 27, 2013 7:53 PM (in response to imbored3111)

              I agree, connection is a big thing. Not to mention timing. I can't tell you how many times I've connected to a game and died about ten times in a row before I even had a chance to move just because of when and where I dropped into it (four enemy scorestreaks going off and my team huddled in one area so I keep spawning in the same place lol).

               

              Between that and lag, my KDR got effed. Now I exit a match the second I see any "iffy" connection issues or if it sounds like all hell is breaking lose as I'm connecting so I can creep my KDR back up at some point. Save myself the trouble ha.

            • eponymous1965 Newbie 26 posts since
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              eponymous1965     Jan 28, 2013 6:01 PM (in response to imbored3111)

              Fully agree, connection is king in this game.

               

              Rgds

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    gregyoung14     Jan 27, 2013 7:43 PM (in response to iKon)

    Youtube channel looks sick! That pro tip video had some good pointers. Biggest difference between pro and amature. Is your consistancy. How good are you on a regular basis. Some people have great games here and there, but is every single game great?

    • iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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      iKon     Jan 27, 2013 8:23 PM (in response to gregyoung14)

      Thanks for the compliments, I really appreciate them. In terms of games being great, it all depends on how you define great. I first and foremost ALWAYS try to win. Winning over everything without a doubt. But usually when we are running a full crew the games are pretty awesome. I had back to back games just last night of 103-0 and 115-3. Hopefully I answered your questions!

  • Beaufighter Newbie 6 posts since
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    Beaufighter     Jan 27, 2013 8:14 PM (in response to iKon)

    One difference between the good players and the pros is how much they care which one they are. If you're someone who always wants to play like money's on the line where you win constantly, always have top stats, etc, you'll take the extra time to think about things like strategy and map layout and you'll be much more focused. Not everyone strives for that.

     

    I had a buddy who was all about being pro. Watched tips, hints, and tricks videos, read tutorials, took it all really seriously, got crazy stats each match. I played middle of the road. One day he mentioned that I wasn't a good player. I corrected him and said that I was just as good as he was, I just didn't care as much as he did lol

     

    He asked me to prove it so I "applied" myself to make a point and we ended up neck and neck for the rest of the night. When he asked why I don't play like that all the time instead of letting people think I'm $hitty, all I could say was, "Cuz it's not important to me".

     

    I used to do the clan thing and join ladders and leagues but these days, I'm just sitting down for a bit of fun after work and some social time with my friends so I don't give a rat's booty if I go 30/1 or 5/15. I also don't care how crappy my stats are now because of it lol But that's the main reason I wouldn't call myself a pro anymore. Not because I don't have pro skill but because I don't have pro dedication.

  • SoG_Hanix_PC Apprentice 535 posts since
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    SoG_Hanix_PC     Jan 27, 2013 8:21 PM (in response to iKon)

    I would have to agree, it is more about team work and strategy. You see these pro gamers and game battle teams in Friday Night Fights and all that, and what sets them apart is the strategy, working together, and sticking to the plan despite all odds. The Great Teams and Players stick to the plan and can manage come backs, where as the Good Teams and Players might fall apart and try to improvise and make things happen. Pro Teams make things happen through team work, not solo play, and that is the difference.

    • iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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      iKon     Jan 28, 2013 4:12 PM (in response to SoG_Hanix_PC)

      Working together and devloping strategies is absolutely the most crucial and critical thing when taking call of duty in the esports world to the next live. I think you hit it on the head. There have been numerous times where I've started or been a part of a great GB team, but we were always that one person away from really making a name for ourselves. While gun skill and accuracy and class set up knowledge is extremely important, it's the dedication to develop strategies for every map and game type that set people apart. Love the response man.

  • greencoffin72 Master 3,664 posts since
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    greencoffin72     Jan 28, 2013 4:22 PM (in response to iKon)

    Why would you want to turn pro in video gaming anyways?  What a wasted existence.

     

    Spend your whole life in front of a TV to get $2,500 rarely, if you're lucky, and be worshipped by pimple-faced dweebs.

    • iivrruummii Master 3,892 posts since
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      iivrruummii     Jan 28, 2013 5:48 PM (in response to greencoffin72)

      It is for the prestige.  If you are earning $2500, then you aren't at the top.  I made $1000 at local tournaments, and I didn't have that much competition.  Now if I went to a $25k tournament then the stakes would be higher and competition would be harder.

       

      If a team is considered the "best" then they would be making upwards of $100k+ a year.  Not that bad for just being the best at a video game.

  • Film_Not_Rated Apprentice 1,264 posts since
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    Film_Not_Rated     Jan 28, 2013 4:25 PM (in response to iKon)

    There are no "Pro's" in Call of Duty, sorry.

     

    There can be players who take it more seriously, but you can't be pro at a game like this...Just better than others if you take it seriously as I said.

  • nicedrewishfela Master 8,340 posts since
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    nicedrewishfela     Jan 28, 2013 4:25 PM (in response to iKon)

    Pros are arrogant enough to call themselves "Pro".

     

    The rest of us do the best we can and just have fun doing it.

    • iivrruummii Master 3,892 posts since
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      iivrruummii     Jan 28, 2013 5:50 PM (in response to nicedrewishfela)

      So people that are pros at football and basket ball are arrogant, too?

       

      Since the rest of us do the best we can and just have fun doing it?

      • nicedrewishfela Master 8,340 posts since
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        nicedrewishfela     Jan 28, 2013 5:59 PM (in response to iivrruummii)

        If someone has enough free time and is good enough to get paid for playing a video game... good for them.

         

        I was referring more to the players in game who claim to be "Pro". Not impressed by them.

         

        I play the game to have fun. I like to compete, I like to win, I like to show progress every match.

         

        I put little stock in "pro" players, especially since they change the game to suit their needs.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,426 posts since
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    trialstardragon     Jan 28, 2013 4:32 PM (in response to iKon)

    You are correct, this is no big secret. The only real difference is game tactics. The Pro's as some call them just work well together as a team. Each player has a part in the team and that is how they play. One is the slayer, the other a defender, another a harasser and so forth. On different maps they have their locations on where they stay or patrol around.

     

    This is also why the Pro's do not like certain things like grenade launchers, or betties; because it can disrupt their map control and tactics easily and throw their game off. Which is why mlg does not allow the grenade launcher.

     

    As for me I will never be a Pro, because I am not compettive, the win does not mean all to me. It is just the fun of playing the game itself that matters more to me, not some stat.

  • Griefbot Apprentice 878 posts since
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    Griefbot     Jan 28, 2013 4:51 PM (in response to iKon)

    Pros get paid

     

    Also, playing in a group so that your team gets host.

  • jwaller123 Master 2,757 posts since
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    jwaller123     Jan 28, 2013 5:33 PM (in response to iKon)

    To me some "Pros" aren't even Pros. They say they are part of MLG, but yet from my understanding, most MLG games outlaw certian perks, attachments, etc... If they are so "Pro" then they should be able to beat anyone using anything. Not even sure if MLG and Pros are even the same thing...but that's my two cents anyway.

    • iivrruummii Master 3,892 posts since
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      iivrruummii     Jan 28, 2013 5:55 PM (in response to jwaller123)

      Yes MLG bans certain perks, attachments, etc. to make the game as balanced as possible, and to increase the skill gap.

      • iKon Newbie 96 posts since
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        iKon     Jan 28, 2013 6:55 PM (in response to iivrruummii)

        Wow. A ton of awesome points being made here, however I have to say that if most people on these forums could turn pro, or make a living off of playing call of duty, I'd have to say that most probably would. As for myself, I am a teacher, and extremely competitive, which I in return makes me think that my education gives me the ability to break down games like black ops 2 and extremely well so that people can better themselves as gamers throughout the call of duty scene. All in all I appreciate everyones perspective. Lastly, I like the idea of MLG banning certain perks, attachments, scorestreaks, etc. as they are more based around luck, and not particularly gun skill or map strategics.

      • trialstardragon Master 10,426 posts since
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        trialstardragon     Jan 28, 2013 8:07 PM (in response to iivrruummii)

        Banning them does not balance the game it just makes it where map control cannot be broken as easy. It does not really increase the skill gap either, it just puts more focus on guns and map control setups. The team with the best map control setup usually wins.

         

        Most so called pros cannot handle the full game and the full chaos it provides. which is why the have those items banned. If they let the GL/RPG/SMAW in the match, all their hard planned out map control setups would be useless.

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