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BlackhawkbillOO7 Novice 287 posts since
Sep 18, 2012

I refuse to give up!!!

Posted by BlackhawkbillOO7 on Jan 10, 2013 5:27 PM

I've played every COD multiplayer since Modern Warfare and I have to say that BO2 is by far the worst as it relates to connections. I know this is nothing new to the veteran posters but this seems to be the only place where WE the gamers can vent and share concerns. I absolutely love this game when the connections are good. I like the custom classes, the weapons, the score streaks, and the game modes.

 

I am very surprised that NONE of the leadership involved with the design, development, and production of this game has yet to acknowledge the elephant in the room (CONNECTION).

 

I am an optimist and really believe that they will correct this. I just wish that they would say something, anything, to give the diehards like myself some hope.

 

I'm no fanboy and will not praise this franchise for something that they, and they alone, are responsible for. I'm just saying that I'm not ready to give up...YET!!!

 

Thank you for your time.

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  • BukLau101 Expert 1,576 posts since
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    BukLau101     Jan 10, 2013 5:30 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

    I still enjoy Call of Duty however something has not been right since Blops1. I wish developers would do something about the cancer that is killing COD rather than let this franchise die a slow and painful death.

  • ghamorra Master 8,613 posts since
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    ghamorra     Jan 10, 2013 5:33 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

    All these issues that may seem subtle just build and build until I just turn the game off for the day. I've been having some pretty decent games lately and out of know where today went like Hell. The first couple games I played I did good. One I even went 67 and 15, but as soon as that game was over I struggled to come out positive. It seemed everyone was God and me just an ant. How can you just ignore bipolar game play like that. The inconsistency is what drives me mad

  • ChestSplittah Master 8,724 posts since
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    ChestSplittah     Jan 10, 2013 5:40 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

    I totally understand where you are coming from. This could be a good game. To me, if they would fine tune the matchmaking and connectivity programming. I've seen 2 new videos other than Oven Baked's. One show the "lag" while not even playing online, another was from someone who showed that the game doesn't even actually reward (per se) ADS. At times even when coming to a full stop and ADS, it will throw some bullets off target completely. Like you were still in hipfire mode.

    • BukLau101 Expert 1,576 posts since
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      BukLau101     Jan 10, 2013 5:43 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

      Was that Drift0r's video about the ADS delay?

      • ChestSplittah Master 8,724 posts since
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        ChestSplittah     Jan 10, 2013 5:53 PM (in response to BukLau101)

        Yep. That was ridiculous. I knew they didn't want skill used... But come on... Actually delaying the most accurate, deadliest way to kill someone?

        • ghamorra Master 8,613 posts since
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          ghamorra     Jan 10, 2013 5:54 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

          Got a link, I want to see this

          • BukLau101 Expert 1,576 posts since
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            BukLau101     Jan 10, 2013 5:57 PM (in response to ghamorra)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyntHjL6T9Y

             

            The same guy also did 4 hour tests which found out that Grip is pretty much useless.

            • gambit1969 Master 2,941 posts since
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              gambit1969     Jan 10, 2013 6:06 PM (in response to BukLau101)

              Interesting, i used grip and quick draw handle a lot at the start and it felt better on my weapons.

               

              I picked up a habit when playing MW3, because the lag was so bad i got into the habit of starting to fire as i was raising the gun to ADS, not waiting until my sight was on the target, i find this still works pretty well in BO2 even without the lag problems i had in MW3

            • theroc23 Apprentice 813 posts since
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              theroc23     Jan 10, 2013 6:12 PM (in response to BukLau101)

              Re: "The same guy also did 4 hour tests which found out that Grip is pretty much useless."

               

              Even more so with the ARs now that they've apparently increased the "flinch" considerably on those particular weapons. Spent the day picking up all manner of weapons and NONE have flinch anywhere close to the ARs. I'm convinced that the developers of this game hate ARs like many people hate Snipers and camping.

            • ChestSplittah Master 8,724 posts since
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              ChestSplittah     Jan 10, 2013 6:39 PM (in response to BukLau101)

              I knew something was funny with the Grips and that's why I asked MaTtKs. Think. If you can use both at the same time, wouldnt your acc be nearly if not 100%? Or does one cancel out the other? Now I know that fore grip is pretty much useless. Though they should be spending time fixing the problems. I've used the SCAR a lot, and noticed the QD grip seems to cause less recoil than using the fore grip.

            • BlackhawkbillOO7 Novice 287 posts since
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              BlackhawkbillOO7     Jan 10, 2013 6:59 PM (in response to BukLau101)

              I just watched the video...Amazing!!! I had no idea.

              • ChestSplittah Master 8,724 posts since
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                ChestSplittah     Jan 10, 2013 7:10 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

                This is probably partially the cause for a lot of the firing first and dying first problems. If you're accuracy is being thrown off as partial hipfire even though you're ADSing, shots won't register correctly.

                • BlackhawkbillOO7 Novice 287 posts since
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                  BlackhawkbillOO7     Jan 10, 2013 7:23 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

                  I play HC CTF and usally a Flag Runner so hip fire is really critical. I really had no idea how off it really was. I'm going to try the Quick Draw and Laser tomorrow.

        • BukLau101 Expert 1,576 posts since
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          BukLau101     Jan 10, 2013 5:55 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

          Yeah I couldn't believe it either when I watched it. I guess 3arc wants to turn this game into Counterstrike although with no skill involved

          • ChestSplittah Master 8,724 posts since
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            ChestSplittah     Jan 10, 2013 6:01 PM (in response to BukLau101)

            I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Though I and I've seen a lot of other post before I saw this video, that there is something wrong when ADS at the enemy and not getting anything.

            • BukLau101 Expert 1,576 posts since
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              BukLau101     Jan 10, 2013 6:04 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

              It's especially noticable when using the KSG or Ballista with Iron sights because you get 1 shot and then you need to rechamber. I always thought ADS in this game was a bit funky and this video confirmed my suspicions.

        • CallOfDutyFan88 Apprentice 751 posts since
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          CallOfDutyFan88     Jan 10, 2013 8:52 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

          i agree, laser sight, dexterity and quickdraw help with this problem greatly tho

  • deadimpact Expert 1,288 posts since
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    deadimpact     Jan 10, 2013 5:43 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

    Unfortunately one variable that the developers can't fully control is the connectivity differences between users. It's sometimes surprising to see on the forums the range of Internet service that people use, and over the years that gap seems to get bigger. In a game where the difference between life and death is decided in a split second, it seems like that would have some influence. Anyway, don't give up if you like the game!

    • ghamorra Master 8,613 posts since
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      ghamorra     Jan 10, 2013 5:55 PM (in response to deadimpact)

      Well said

    • BlackhawkbillOO7 Novice 287 posts since
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      BlackhawkbillOO7     Jan 10, 2013 5:58 PM (in response to deadimpact)

      The thing that still puzzles me about the connectivity is that I can load any other COD game and when I pull the trigger the enemy dies. This game with the same connection I'm lucky to get a hit marker. There is something fundamentally corrupt in this game.

      • ghamorra Master 8,613 posts since
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        ghamorra     Jan 10, 2013 6:00 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

        It comes down to match making which varies every match

        • Sgt-Phasma Newbie 98 posts since
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          Sgt-Phasma     Jan 10, 2013 6:53 PM (in response to ghamorra)

          matchmaking is important but that is not the problem. The constant balancing of connections (lag compensating) is the problem. Ever notice how it lags for a moment when people back out and new people join? That is the game synchronising all the player's connections with the new players that joined. The game is constantly trying to work out who lags and compensate by adding artificial lag to those who do not lag. It is completely bullsh*t and only work in (romantic) theory.

           

          I have gotten so p 1ssed that i have had BO2 in the box for the past week or two and when feeling like playing, I have played MW2 (which works on the traditional MP system that nearly all games use). I've had such a good time! This is bad, a game that is three years old is outshining its successors when it comes to the basic mechanics of connectivity...

           

          All the whiny, skill-lacking masses finally got they're way but they didn't realise they would ruin the game in the process...

          • ghamorra Master 8,613 posts since
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            ghamorra     Jan 10, 2013 9:00 PM (in response to Sgt-Phasma)

            That's not what lag comp is in any shape way or form. All lag comp does is rewind game play to see how things would have happened had there been no lag. It literally compensates for time delay by the millisecond. It does not add artificial lag

             

             

            Don't listen to YouTube videos, it's bad for your health

  • InstantOG Novice 411 posts since
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    InstantOG     Jan 10, 2013 7:15 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

    The only problem I have is that someone using a MSMC,PDW or any SMG in general with a good 4 bar will be so far out in front of everyone else they will do good just because of it.

     

    You guys might feel it too, you kill people in a blink of the eye and you **** all over everyone you come face to face with. My only complaint.

    • ChestSplittah Master 8,724 posts since
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      ChestSplittah     Jan 10, 2013 7:37 PM (in response to InstantOG)

      If someone has a genuine 4 bar and the iffy lag isnt playing a part throught the match. They honestly should. They have a excellent transfer of data to and from the host. If most players do also.

    • theroc23 Apprentice 813 posts since
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      theroc23     Jan 10, 2013 8:04 PM (in response to InstantOG)

      You meant to say "crappy 3 bar connection", right?

  • CallOfDutyFan88 Apprentice 751 posts since
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    CallOfDutyFan88     Jan 10, 2013 9:01 PM (in response to BlackhawkbillOO7)

    people with crap connections should not be allowed on the servers and chronic quitters should be penalized. when ppl rage quit the game goes to s*** for everybody else. i never quit and u shouldnt either.

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