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I've been a hardcore MAG player the last 3 years. So I don't see COD has being a team game, especially when one guy is on your team one match, and then on the other team the next. win/loss % does not hold the same merit for me in this game. I could see league play being different, but thats just my view point on the team stuff. At the end of the day, i want more kills then deaths, and most of all, I want to have fun. I don't see the point in rushing B on a Dom match when its just pure choas and nothing but spamming grenades all over the place. Sometimes this game feels like its NASCAR, its all one big circle with the random spawning. I'm learning how it works now, and I am having fun. But a win or loss at the end of the game will not bother me in the slightest.

Why does it matter to you, if your clan plays as a team and you all have a role to play then you are in the best scenario for objective games.  I fail to see how it seems to upset you.

Playing solo however you have no idea what you are letting yourself in for with your team of randoms, which is why I usually stick to TDM and KC.  On the few games I do play Dom with randoms if all my team mates are rushers I will defend either A or C, if they are defensive I will go on the attack.

If people want to come into these games purely for KD there is not a lot you or I can do about it but just play with your team and dig out the win.

Enjoy the game for what it is and accept people have there own agenda's.

so in since were on the subject of playing dom and team base.. my team and i play smart we take 2 flags and hold it its common sense.. we dont attack the 3rd flag because we do not want people to get behind us.

when we play dom we all hold a position down, yes that means camping our asses off at that location, hate me if u want, but in the competitive gaming world thats how its played. our experiences come from playing Socom 2, were its camp camp camp, the 3rd person view makes you more prone to being spotted. the whole point of my post is, if you want to win DOM you gotta play smart and not play reckless (rushing).

yes you need some form of skill to even camp, if one person lets 1 or 2 people by its gonna be tough to get that spot back, so definitly your team needs to have some skills.

most will disagree with me, and say were a bunch of "camping" fa.gs but its domination. the objective is to hold the flags down till you reach for the score limit.

now lets say we are not winning. 50/100 there is a 50% chance you can still win, but in most cases people panic and start doing stupid shi.t, its important to keep relax and work your way to the flag.

example: B flag Overflow the worst flag ever lol, most people would just rush for it. to me thats EASY kills. since i know there coming, distrupt the flow of the game, smoke grenades, emps, flash, concussion. i can guarantee thats a MIND *****. to the other team. then make the rush to get B, 4 people on it can easily take it in 3 seconds  have the other 2 watching the sides, and or 5 other people locking down the sides and any choke points.

the main reason most people lose a domination match is cause i can bet 80% of the team is running high scorestreaks.

i actually hate running them now i use to run the typical swarm combo..

when you  can get  2 or 3 good guns running medium scorestreaks believe me its a CONSITANT way to keep the other team on edge.

the key to winning all the time is playing mind games with the enemy.. try to keep them going WDF WDF WDF WDF WDF what can we do..

my advice: Take away there scorestreaks and theres nothing they can do.

i only know my ratio is 1.25 because this thread prompted me to look. i kill lots of people while rushing, but i die a lot getting tags (i only play KC).

i don't care if i have a .80 or a 3.80. i still have fun and usually get more tags than kills.

Decent kdr (1.5< ), decent W/L ratio(at least 1.00??), and a high score per minute. If I think someone is good I usually check their combat record and scores across game modes(ground war).

A good example is one of my friends brags about(thinking he's better than me ) his just above 2.0 kdr but his scores per minute are considerably lower than mine in the 3 game modes. Especially kc, hel kill but in order to confirm he must leave his camp/hold down spot and thus never confirms

Hello,

I think k/d is important, a 1+ shows that a player can kill as much as they die however I think the most important one is W/L If I see 1.5+ (or a 60% win ratio on elite) on W/L I know my team is in for a good challenge.

I enjoy playing other clans in clan ops it pushes my team and me to think more tactically and improves our general skill and coordination.

For individual players though I think looking at their FFA (or the party games) stats would be benificial as that is pure stats on their overall capability as a solo person.

Regards Apocalypse

Over the Christmas break I came across many players (not just noobs) that at the end of the game stated that they had destroyed my team as they had a 35:5 K.D yet lost the game 90:200 for example. When I quized these players about how they came to this conclusion when they had lost they answered with "what's the point in winning if you don't have a good K.D?" Now don't get me wrong I do prefer getting to the end of a game with a positive K.D. however I play to win, if that means I die more than the opposition so be it! No matter what if there is a competitive aspect to a game/sport I play to win.

If I was to play in a football team I would do my best to make sure my team scored a goal and not conceed one as this is the objective and the way you win the game. The same principle goes for playing Domination games I do what it take to try and get the win. My whole clan also has the same mind set. We have games where we go 60-10 K.D and win but we also have games that go 10-30 K.D however if we are winning we don't care.

We all hate having a random on our team if they refuse to play the objective if we don't have enough online for a full party (or if some get dropped as we enter the game and swapped for a random as the game seems to have a problem with parties) however sometimes you get a decent player that does.

I understand some peoples perspective that a high average K.D. and I agree this shows you are a good player but not in a game such as DOM unless you get these scores wihile playing the objective. If you help your team secure a win you are a far better player than the guy that just goes for kills on an area of the map that is no where near an objective. However if you have a high K.D. in TDM/FFA you are a very good player as this is the objective!

No matter how much you try to convince people that K/D does not matter, Players will always think K/D ratio is the most important stat. W/L is nothing in this game. I keep on getting put into matches with the score 150-30 for the other team. Most players with a high SPM just camp beside the flag and get their scorestreaks. Since this game is all about the objective, players will run to the B flag but they will get picked off one by one by a killwhore. My K/D is 2.35, my W/L is 0.71( I play solo GW) and my SPM is 334. This game is not meant for rushing. I try playing the objective, but it just makes me rage and scream. Vonderhaar is retarded. The only reason I did not throw this game out my window yet is because of Zombies. W/L is nothing, SPM is nothing and K/D is nothing. I don't even feel like I am playing COD anymore. 3arc is worried about hacks and glitches and they don't give a **** about the community

The stats mean nothing in this game because they are to easy to manipulate, game not going your way, simple, dashboard, game never happened therefore stats not affected.

Kill whoring in objective modes is another way to tilt the stats in your favour by simply not playing the objective.

If you want to get an idea of whether a player is any good look at the total amount of games played and in what mode they played them in, then look at their total kills and deaths in each mode..

Its peoples obsession with stats and how they percieve them to be so important that has led to so much cheating and boosting in all the recent Call Of Duty titles..

you'll notice that most people with a K/D of 2.0 or higher have a W/L of 0.5 or lower! and it makes me laugh when, at the end of the game, the people that lose and have 50-60 kills give it the big'un. my K/D is 1.18 and my W/L is 2.30.