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WKMMS Expert 1,158 posts since
Dec 19, 2011

your opinions on the most inconsistent guns in the game....

Posted by WKMMS on Dec 18, 2012 2:25 PM

what gun(s) just don't seem to do what you expect them to do, or make you feel that you can't rely on them in a pinch?

 

For me there are 2 -

 

The XPR-50 - I have never come across a semi-auto sniper that I didn't like until now.  It's the only gun that I'll put my sights bang on someone, pull the trigger and be expecting them not to die.  I've put 4 shots into people and they lived to tell the tale and mug me off by splatting my guts with a Five Seven. There is no other gun in the game that I sweat as much while using...

 

The R870 - This guns performance for me goes from shooting a spray of death to a spray of nerf darts.  One minute I'll be taking guys out from yards away and the next I'll get multiple hitmarkers from slapping distance.  It's the very definition for me of a love/hate gun.  Sometimes I'm loving it and others I hate it like it came round to my house at christmas and pissed on my kid....

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  • r33k Apprentice 637 posts since
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    r33k     Dec 18, 2012 2:29 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    KSG: i shot you point blank, in the back, while you where standing still, while i was ADS, but i didnt hit you. other times i'll swing agound, from the hip and headshot you.

     

    i got used to it. golded it. next gun pls.

     

    also, any rifle using an ACOG. its like its off or something. like someone banged into it and the reticle is aiming off center now.

    • MarniDawg Newbie 21 posts since
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      MarniDawg     Dec 18, 2012 3:31 PM (in response to r33k)

      This has been my experience with the KSG as well.

    • bosskoms Apprentice 551 posts since
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      bosskoms     Dec 18, 2012 5:03 PM (in response to r33k)

      The KSG has a 0.2 second penalty when you ADS like the Sniper rifles had in BO. So when you very first get your sights up the slug can go anywhere in the Hip spread.

  • NJC22312 Novice 126 posts since
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    NJC22312     Dec 18, 2012 2:51 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    It may not fall under the gun catagory but I must say the most frustrating weapon in the game for me is the RPG. I can't believe how small of an area the killzone is from the explosion. I will shoot and hit like 5 feet behind someone and I usually don't get hit markers. I really hate using it and I am only using it to get gold camo so I can get diamond launchers. The last one I need is to get a triple kill with it which is damn near impossible! I have to find people that are all 3 on top of each other or get lucky when 3 people run next to a car or something. It's really stupid!

    • WKMMS Expert 1,158 posts since
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      WKMMS     Dec 19, 2012 3:51 AM (in response to NJC22312)

      Great for taking out stealth helicoptors in 1 shot.  Useless against a guy with flak jaket even if you hit him twice - go figure

      • NJC22312 Novice 126 posts since
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        NJC22312     Dec 19, 2012 9:45 AM (in response to WKMMS)

        Yeah I have the same problem! Apparently if you are wearing a flak jacket you can get hit in the face twice with a rocket propelled grenade and not die.

         

        Also another thing I've noticed is that even though you can get the stealth chopper down in one shot with it, I was lucky enough to hit a dragonfire with one (and I mean direct impact)  and instead of blowing it out of the sky, it quickly turned on me and killed me. I mean come on! If I was that badass to hit a dragonfire with an RPG why wouldn't it have just died!?

  • MrCoates28210 Novice 135 posts since
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    MrCoates28210     Dec 18, 2012 3:24 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    Not a gun but under the primary weapon catagory, the Assault shield. So many times i've had people shoot straight through it and kill me, the melee attack sucks too.

    • MicroPiiig Novice 111 posts since
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      MicroPiiig     Dec 18, 2012 3:35 PM (in response to MrCoates28210)

      I'll have to say the assault shield too.bullets go through and the attack doesn't always register.

    • WKMMS Expert 1,158 posts since
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      WKMMS     Dec 19, 2012 3:56 AM (in response to MrCoates28210)

      Game of Dom on Carrier last night.  Start of game capped C and ran to cover B.  Guy with Assault Shield trying to cap.  Lined up shot with XPR on the tiny bit of his stomach that was sticking out of the side and killed him in one shot - which was BS really because it should have been a 2 shot kill. Hearing lots of stories about people shooting through the shield with FMJ.  Kind of defeats the purpose of the shield really.

  • vims1990 Master 7,510 posts since
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    vims1990     Dec 18, 2012 3:28 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    I find most of the shotguns and semi automatic/burst fire weapons (without select fire) inconsistent.

     

    I'm not much of a sniper but I rarely get hitmarkered by a bolt action sniper compared to previous COD titles. Not saying that it's unbalanced by the way.

  • banned-again Expert 1,629 posts since
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    banned-again     Dec 18, 2012 3:41 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    lmg's are the most inconsistant guns in the game they are great once they get going but i swear the first 5 or 6 shoots dont even register which can mean alot in this game

    • WKMMS Expert 1,158 posts since
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      WKMMS     Dec 19, 2012 3:58 AM (in response to banned-again)

      Just started using the LSW this morning - I see what you mean about the first few shots not seeming to register - thought it was just me being crap till I read your post.  That default class with the MK46 (I think) isn't bad though - had a couple of nice games with it just post-prestige.

  • ItalySwagg Newbie 73 posts since
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    ItalySwagg     Dec 18, 2012 6:01 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    The XPR-50. I'm trying to get mastery on all snipers since I now have diamond camo. Sometimes it's a one hit kill, other times , multiple shots. I'll be in a long range sniper battle with it, my enemy is using the DSR-50. It's not a one hit kill moment. Who wins?

    • WKMMS Expert 1,158 posts since
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      WKMMS     Dec 19, 2012 4:00 AM (in response to ItalySwagg)

      That's the story of my life with that gun.  I've 7 more blood thirstly medals to get with it for gold and then I'm putting it away for good!

  • creaper21 Master 3,549 posts since
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    creaper21     Dec 18, 2012 7:30 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    The 870. I've had times where I aim and shoot directly at someones head while they're not moving from 3 inches away and the gun just misses. Then I had times where I'm 30 feet away, aiming 9 feet to the right of someone, almost facing the ground, then I shoot and get a headshot.

     

    It doesn't make sense. Having to shoot someone twice, or even 3 times at a LONG range with a shotgun is okay. But I should never have to shoot someone FOUR times with a PUMP shotgun.

     

    Also, the shield. People seem to be able to shoot right through it. Although that has happened in MW3 as well.

  • Razor_Ransom Novice 119 posts since
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    Razor_Ransom     Dec 18, 2012 8:07 PM (in response to WKMMS)

    ALL the weapons are SO inconsistent because of the varying degrees of Lag or Lag comp in the game. 

     

    All the inconsistencies you guys are seeing are mostly Lag/Hit Detection/Latency related.

     

    That being said...

     

    The Ballista is almost worthless after they nerfed it.  Qsrs may disagree

     

    I find weapons with a moderate rate of fire to be most consistent:  mtar, an94, pdw, msmc

    • John173 Newbie 45 posts since
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      John173     Dec 18, 2012 8:22 PM (in response to Razor_Ransom)

      I haven't experienced any weapons being nerfed. The lack of damage the weapon does seems directly linked to how much lag you experience. At least I notice this.

      • Razor_Ransom Novice 119 posts since
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        Razor_Ransom     Dec 18, 2012 8:24 PM (in response to John173)

        One of the major patches included weapon balancing (nerfing some and buffing some others)  Details can be found somewhere on the forums

    • WKMMS Expert 1,158 posts since
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      WKMMS     Dec 19, 2012 4:31 AM (in response to Razor_Ransom)

      the only nerf to the Ballista was that it's hipfire spread was increased - same with all the sniper rifles. That wouldn't affect anyone when ADS.  The Ballista is my most used gun and still seems to be working as I was used to it.  Still throws out random hitmarkers even if you've hit chest and above, but it always did that so I got used to popping back behind cover after I take a shot just in case.  It's a f*cking horrible gun to use with the iron sights though.  I'm working on that challenge now and to me it's the very definition of a grind.

       

      The other nerfs were an increase in hipfire recoil for all SMGs, and increase in ADS recoil for the PDW and MSMC.  The R870 had its range reduced too. Honestly didn't even notice any difference with the SMGs though and only started using the 870 after the nerf so I can't really compare it. 

  • PerEverto13 Expert 1,874 posts since
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    PerEverto13     Dec 19, 2012 6:33 AM (in response to WKMMS)

    For me it has to be the AN94 one game i will go 36-12 next game i have to switch for something like the mtar or t25 because im being dominated. I dont really understand why either. And am i the only one who thinks they should buff the fire rate to around 650-7550 shots per minute after those first two rounds? I mean i want to love the gun, but at times it seems to hate me :-\

  • Rize_BHo Apprentice 871 posts since
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    Rize_BHo     Dec 19, 2012 9:56 AM (in response to WKMMS)

    The problem isnt in the weapons. If you say sometimes its great and other times its terrible then you are obviously talking about connection/hit detetion/lag comp.  To really check this out for yourself go into a private match and play against a bunch of bots.

     

    I constantly get hit markers with the DSR directly to the chest of players while they can hit me in the knee or finger and get a 1 shot kill. So i went against a bunch of bots and found that i was getting almost every hit was a kill. I even turned the damage up some and continued to get 1 shot kills.

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