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trialstardragon Master 10,401 posts since
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Strange New Trend in Emblems?

Posted by trialstardragon on Dec 16, 2012 6:46 AM

Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

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  • dweez1988 Apprentice 769 posts since
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    dweez1988     Dec 16, 2012 6:51 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Nope did'nt notice it.

    I did see a youtube logo or 2 but I skip them instantly because I only like to watch awesome creative emblems

  • virtualvirus Apprentice 254 posts since
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    virtualvirus     Dec 16, 2012 9:23 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Activision partnered with Youtube. Blops 2 allows you to link your youtube account in game or via elite. Why in the world would it be "Against the rules"?

     

    ***Foxhound please lock and delete this thread.

    • gallp13 Master 6,485 posts since
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      gallp13     Dec 16, 2012 12:06 PM (in response to virtualvirus)

      Why lock and delete....I find it interesting. No harm in discussing interesting things.

    • trialstardragon Master 10,401 posts since
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      trialstardragon     Dec 16, 2012 4:09 PM (in response to virtualvirus)

      Just because they have a deal with youtube does not mean it is ok to advertise on the emblem. As you well know it is against the forums rules to try and do it here. And will get your post removed by the mods. So it could be against the rules in the game as well. And that is what I was asking about. Not really if is should be; but if it is and should be reported.

       

      I report any emblem that I find offensive; be it porn related or just hate or racist releated. I find it fun to watch the threads of people that come here and cry about their emblem creator rights being lost and then they admit to having something that was against the rules yet still think it should have been ok.

  • chrissy_ Novice 188 posts since
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    chrissy_     Dec 16, 2012 9:27 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Very strange thread and from someone with 8000+ posts as well.

    • gallp13 Master 6,485 posts since
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      gallp13     Dec 16, 2012 12:15 PM (in response to chrissy_)

      I think the emblems are fine.....but in the end its up to xbl and Activision to determine whether it is a violation of the rules we all play under. If it s so be it, move on, if its not happy days go for broke.

    • LimonAgrio Newbie 68 posts since
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      LimonAgrio     Dec 23, 2012 5:03 PM (in response to chrissy_)

      chrissy_ wrote:

       

      Very strange thread and from someone with 8000+ posts as well.

      Yes, indeed. There is only one way that number grows.  I say leave the micromanagement to the people who actually manage the game and away from the fans. But we are all entitled to an opinion.

    • opdrams19 Apprentice 314 posts since
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      opdrams19     Dec 24, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to chrissy_)

      Wow, how dare you mention someone's post count, very bad form.

       

      At least that's what I was told on another thread.  By a moderator.  About someone who admitted he doesn't even own this game.  And said he doesn't play it.  But still posts endlessly.  On second thought...nevermind.  Nice to see I'm not the only one who notices the creatures under the bridges.

  • FixBlops2 Expert 2,020 posts since
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    FixBlops2     Dec 16, 2012 9:43 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    I prefer to see youtube ads than all the pen1s emblems.

  • vespervin Novice 248 posts since
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    vespervin     Dec 16, 2012 10:42 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    I always see this. I see one saying "YOUTUBE - TryHard Nation" a lot.Maybe that's because Ground War constantly throws me against the same people.

  • gallp13 Master 6,485 posts since
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    gallp13     Dec 16, 2012 12:01 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Yes just new this season and is gathering steam. I don't see any harm in it but then my Clan Tag is the same as the name of one on my companies

  • Sustainability Novice 186 posts since
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    Sustainability     Dec 16, 2012 12:03 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Haven't seen that on my end, but I honestly don't see a problem with it. As long as it isn't Nazi propaganda or racist crap I never care.

  • DerekFrost Novice 200 posts since
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    DerekFrost     Dec 16, 2012 12:06 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Let them advertise, it isn't hurting anyone. I wonder why some people have to get involved in everyone's business and have to tell them if what they're doing is right or wrong.

    • trialstardragon Master 10,401 posts since
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      trialstardragon     Dec 16, 2012 4:11 PM (in response to DerekFrost)

      Because there are rules to this game. Rules about the type of content that a players is allowed to create or not. Just because you may not think it hurts anyone, does not mean it is ok.

  • twinkeeze Novice 315 posts since
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    twinkeeze     Dec 23, 2012 4:19 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    I would rather see those emblems than some of the ones out there. I have ran into a guy more than once that has a white stick guy dressed as a KKK clown with black stick men hanging in trees around him. I have reported him so many times it isnt funny but just ran into him again a few nights ago. I dont know how long the report process takes but surely that emblem wont stay.

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    theothawhtmeat     Dec 23, 2012 4:43 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Who the hell cares... custom emblems are meant to be CUSTOM. If someone chooses to post there YT account to connect with players let them do it. Isn't that the point of Elite so why not in the game?

     

    As long as it is not an offensive emblem it doesn't matter.

  • TehSpeagles Expert 431 posts since
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    TehSpeagles     Dec 23, 2012 5:04 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Crap thread is crap. 

     

    Somebody that lives on this forum 24/7 such as yourself should know to check the Security & Enforcement Policy before making a useless thread like this.

     

    WTF on earth would putting YouTube in your emblem be illegal??

     

    Crap thread is crap.

    • trialstardragon Master 10,401 posts since
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      trialstardragon     Dec 27, 2012 2:49 PM (in response to TehSpeagles)

      Crap thread eh, like some of your crap videos eh? You just fear it being made against the rules and not being able to use it for free advertising of yt eh?

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    Rize_BHo     Dec 23, 2012 5:25 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    I see no problem. If it is a promotion to their own youtube channel then what harm is it doing?

  • ShaneDog Novice 275 posts since
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    ShaneDog     Dec 23, 2012 5:35 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    If making a Youtube logo emblem is illegal then making a Pepsi, Simpsons, Southpark, Comic book character, Nike, etc. is illegal because that is using the image of a product, service, or some sort of other copyrighted material to advertise that particular companies product.

     

     

    So yeah imho opinion I think it is a slippery slope once you start banning emblems because they advertise a particular brand. I think the current rules they have in place now regarding emblems is sufficient.

    • TigerGenetics1 Novice 75 posts since
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      TigerGenetics1     Dec 23, 2012 6:31 PM (in response to ShaneDog)

      He isn't talking about the YouTube emblem itself but the advertising of their channel. It was a simple question because advertising is technically against policy in most cases so he wanted clarification.  Trolls came out in force for this one. At least read the post before responding.

       

      But I have not seen those emblems myself.

      • trialstardragon Master 10,401 posts since
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        trialstardragon     Dec 27, 2012 2:57 PM (in response to TigerGenetics1)

        At least you and two others really seen what this thread was about. Those that came out to nay say are probably those that do this and are afraid that they may not be allowed too.

         

        I can honeslty say with Starbucks and Ran's responses I have my own answer and will now report any and all I see to ms since it is directly gainst xbl tos, even if 3arc may chosse to say it is ok. It is still against the rules.

         

        And yes as you pointed out it was not about the logo itself but the use of the logo and if it was against the rules or not.

  • starbuckfrack Master 11,102 posts since
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    starbuckfrack     Dec 23, 2012 6:04 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    trialstardragon wrote:

     

    Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

    Actually it IS an advertisement. Advertisements even for Youtube are against XBL policy.

    • LimonAgrio Newbie 68 posts since
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      LimonAgrio     Dec 23, 2012 7:52 PM (in response to starbuckfrack)

      starbuckfrack wrote:

       

      trialstardragon wrote:

       

      Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

      Actually it IS an advertisement. Advertisements even for Youtube are against XBL policy.

      Where on XBL policy You found this? Would be nice if you could provide a link so we can all see what we are talking about.

      • starbuckfrack Master 11,102 posts since
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        starbuckfrack     Dec 23, 2012 8:47 PM (in response to LimonAgrio)

        LimonAgrio wrote:

         

        starbuckfrack wrote:

         

        trialstardragon wrote:

         

        Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

        Actually it IS an advertisement. Advertisements even for Youtube are against XBL policy.

        Where on XBL policy You found this? Would be nice if you could provide a link so we can all see what we are talking about.

        Ummm, how about the agreement that you signed when you made your Gamertag ?

         

        Here it is for you....

         

        You agree that the Services are only for your personal use, and you will not use the Services, any content available on the Services, or your account, for any commercial purpose.

         

        Don’t use your account for commercial purposes (including, without limitation, trading services or in-game content for currency or Microsoft Points).

        • LimonAgrio Newbie 68 posts since
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          LimonAgrio     Dec 23, 2012 9:05 PM (in response to starbuckfrack)

          starbuckfrack wrote:

           

          LimonAgrio wrote:

           

          starbuckfrack wrote:

           

          trialstardragon wrote:

           

          Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

          Actually it IS an advertisement. Advertisements even for Youtube are against XBL policy.

          Where on XBL policy You found this? Would be nice if you could provide a link so we can all see what we are talking about.

          Ummm, how about the agreement that you signed when you made your Gamertag ?

           

          Here it is for you....

           

          You agree that the Services are only for your personal use, and you will not use the Services, any content available on the Services, or your account, for any commercial purpose.

           

          Don’t use your account for commercial purposes (including, without limitation, trading services or in-game content for currency or Microsoft Points).

          Ummm, I asked in good faith, looking for a link that pointed out what you were claiming. It seems you have taken it the wrong way. But anyway, in response to your reply, It answers absolutely nothing about the topic in questions. How do you or the OP knows that by having a youtube channel emblem, on their profile they are making any money off any advertisement.

           

          Also, what You just posted, will / could also be applied to all the people that record their games outside by using other methods that then ones provided by the game and posting them in youtube accounts that DO make money out of it. Then those accounts also risk being banned.

           

          I also should add that while your reply was a very good effort, it simply does not answer the question. The reply you provided is made under the assumption that the player with the youtube channel emblem is using the account for a commercial purpose, which in this case you simply don't know if that is the case.

          • starbuckfrack Master 11,102 posts since
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            starbuckfrack     Dec 23, 2012 9:06 PM (in response to LimonAgrio)

            LimonAgrio wrote:

             

            starbuckfrack wrote:

             

            LimonAgrio wrote:

             

            starbuckfrack wrote:

             

            trialstardragon wrote:

             

            Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

            Actually it IS an advertisement. Advertisements even for Youtube are against XBL policy.

            Where on XBL policy You found this? Would be nice if you could provide a link so we can all see what we are talking about.

            Ummm, how about the agreement that you signed when you made your Gamertag ?

             

            Here it is for you....

             

            You agree that the Services are only for your personal use, and you will not use the Services, any content available on the Services, or your account, for any commercial purpose.

             

            Don’t use your account for commercial purposes (including, without limitation, trading services or in-game content for currency or Microsoft Points).

            Ummm, I asked in good faith, looking for a link that pointed out what you were claiming. It seems you have taken it the wrong way. But anyway, in response to your reply, It answers absolutely nothing about the topic in questions. How do you or the OP knows that by having a youtube channel emblem, on their profile they are making any money off any advertisement.

             

            Also, what You just posted, will / could also be applied to all the people that record their games outside by using other methods that then ones provided by the game and posting them in youtube accounts that DO make money out of it. Then those accounts also risk being banned.

            You want more proof then look on the banning forums on Xbox Live.

             

            You will find many PET members stating that you cannot advertise on the Xbox.

             

            http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/41.aspx

          • starbuckfrack Master 11,102 posts since
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            starbuckfrack     Dec 23, 2012 9:19 PM (in response to LimonAgrio)

            LimonAgrio wrote:

             

            Ummm, I asked in good faith, looking for a link that pointed out what you were claiming. It seems you have taken it the wrong way. But anyway, in response to your reply, It answers absolutely nothing about the topic in questions. How do you or the OP knows that by having a youtube channel emblem, on their profile they are making any money off any advertisement.

             

            Also, what You just posted, will / could also be applied to all the people that record their games outside by using other methods that then ones provided by the game and posting them in youtube accounts that DO make money out of it. Then those accounts also risk being banned.

             

            THAT has nothing to do with this statement . We are talking about having the advertisements IN their Emblems nt talking about what they are doing elsewhere.

             

            I also should add that while your reply was a very good effort, it simply does not answer the question. The reply you provided is made under the assumption that the player with the youtube channel emblem is using the account for a commercial purpose, which in this case you simply don't know if that is the case.

            Advertising regardless is against Xbl Policy, doesnt matter what they are using it for. We do not have to ASSUME anything because he still has it there for all to see.

             

            for example if a player has "1600 point modded lobbies" in their profile they STILL can get banned off of XBL regardless if they hosted a modded lobby or not.

            • LimonAgrio Newbie 68 posts since
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              LimonAgrio     Dec 24, 2012 9:19 AM (in response to starbuckfrack)

              starbuckfrack wrote:

               

              Advertising regardless is against Xbl Policy, doesnt matter what they are using it for. We do not have to ASSUME anything because he still has it there for all to see.

               

              for example if a player has "1600 point modded lobbies" in their profile they STILL can get banned off of XBL regardless if they hosted a modded lobby or not.

              Please stick to the facts, and post the links to where the information is available. Also since you posted the link to the Xbox Forums, please make sure You search them, since a simple search in this topic only provided two hits that were relevant to this discussion and both posts were unanswered by Xbox Support.

               

              Also, the topic in question by the OP and what you are using as an example are very different things.What you describe as an example is explicitly prohibited and documented on the Xbox Live Code of Conduct; The topic in discussion here or anything similar is neither documented in the Code of Conduct or Terms of Use for Xbox Live.

  • nicedrewishfela Master 8,331 posts since
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    nicedrewishfela     Dec 23, 2012 8:08 PM (in response to trialstardragon)

    I see no problems with it.

     

    May have started with WickedShrapnel, he has a YouTube Logo with his channel name on it.

     

    I think the ire should be directed to racist or sexually explicit emblems, not things like this.

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    Josef91     Dec 24, 2012 1:02 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    Who cares?

    • COD_WIDOW Apprentice 766 posts since
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      COD_WIDOW     Dec 24, 2012 1:33 AM (in response to Josef91)

      I don't give these ads a second look...

       

      It's not often thta you actually come accross an emblem worth a second look unfortunately.

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    FrankLaJoei17     Dec 24, 2012 3:53 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    How would that be illegal?

     

    it is if you advertise it in forums,but not on Emblems, Everything is allowed on Emblems as long as it's not offensive.

     

    For example,that would be like someone reporting me for having my emblem as the Denver Broncos because I'm kind of Advertising the team.

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    Sledgehammer23248     Dec 24, 2012 9:39 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    haven't noticed 1 yet... i could care less about youtube emblems compared to the sick perverted ones... 33 years old here (not under 18) and i still don't care to see it... just move along. 

     

    i have noticed less creative emblems in BO2 and i think it's just because the game is new and people haven't put as much creative time into them...

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    banned-again     Dec 24, 2012 10:03 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    I've seen loads the past few days but I'm not fused about the emblems it's the 4-5 messages I get from each person begging for subscribers that annoys me plus have you noticed it's always the cheapscopers that advertise theit YouTube accounts in their emblem

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    rankismet     Dec 24, 2012 10:06 AM (in response to trialstardragon)

    trialstardragon wrote:

     

    Has anyone else beside me noticed the strange new trend going around where some players actually make the youtube logo and then add their youtube account under it? Since they are not allowed to advertise it here on the forums they are using the emblem creator to do it for them in game. I can say it is rather creative to do so. But I wonder if it is or should be against the rules? Since in a way it is still adverstisment.

     

    Haven't seen this once...

     

    ... but it may violate the XBL ToU. You can't solicite via your profile but hard to say.

     

     

     

     

     

    And I honestly could care less about it unless they are promoting hacks, etc.

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