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I am going to admit, even if I don't play HC FFA (For that matter, I don't play Core FFA) , I am starting to feel bad about our teammates that really want it.

Call Of Duty is the biggest game in the market right now. The day one title hits the market, it becomes the next best selling game in history. Treyarch and Activision get Billions of dollars with this series, so IMO, there is no excuse to them to take out a Gamemode. If they need more servers, they can simply buy/create more.

I will agree with you however, the community is overreacting to this.

Just because they took of your favorite gamemode it doesn't mean that treyarch hates you, or that they hate the community. You don't need to threat them, or say "I WON'T BUY ANYM00RE OF YUR GUIEMIS AGUEIN, TENKS 2 YU TREYARCH, U KILLED HCFFA!!"

Treyarch is trying (atleast i THINK they are trying) to make the comunity happy, so if you ask them nicely, MAYBE, just maybe, they'll put Hardcore Free For All back. (Even tough IMO they shouldn't have took it down in the first place, I am only happy if the rest of the community is happy) [there is some engrish in this post, I know, I just woke up.]

Now if only someone from 3arc could take some time out to address these matters instead of making the community fight among themselves. 2 posts from vahn buried in the hardcore thread isn't a lot to go on. Seriously people if you've been on these forums long enough you'll notice that replying in this thread will more than likely give you a headache. This thread has every right to be locked just like all the other hc threads that were too. The hardcore thread is where these discussions should take place and where all other hardcore topics should get directed too. The op knows this.

[REMOVED BY MODERATOR] Your right about not always being able to please everybody all the time.  You have no idea why ppl are upset though.  The HC player base has every right to be upset by this.

Hc community roughly make up 1/3 of the CoD population. Like it or not that is a lot of ppl.  In previous CoD games our playlist has been nearly dbl what it is now.  BO1 had 7 HC game modes if i remember right.  We have almost half now.  Core currently has 18 core game modes (3 league, 12 core, 2 combat training and 1 bonus).  HC has only 4.  Im of coarse not counting the party game modes but one could argue that i should include both gun game and sharp shooter in that. Which if so would make it 20 core type game modes.

On top of that.  HC has yet to play nuketown in reg map rotation or have a nuketown playlist.  A feature that many ppl wanted boh core and hc. The reason of it fragmenting the player base is utter bs.  you didn't even need to preorder the game to geet the bonus map.  You can go to gamestop or walmart right now and buy the game and get the map.  Somebody post just 2 -3 days ago that they rebought the map would like to trade the map code of something else since they had the game before and used the previous game's code and don't need the new one.  This is a full mo after the game has come out. So thier reasoning is utter BS.

Keep in mind we paid the same amount as everybody else.  This game made 1billion on launch day.  With HC community making up roughly 1/3 of the players.  About 333 million dollars came from us.  I wouldn't call that chump chance.  If we stop buying CoD since they keep treating us worse and worse. I bet they will miss our money and will hurt their bottom line.

trialstardragon wrote:

Making threats, that unless they bring it back you will not buy the next game does not help either. You will not bully the developers by such tactics. Your dislike of the removal will be noted and that is as far as it will go. Your threat has no power over them even if you like to think it does.

despite what you think, people who stop playing the game because of a reason actually does affect them if there are enough people who all stop playing for that very reason. they do care. they have a marketing department who cares very much about such a threat, as it affects future game sales, dlc sales, etc. now, 1 person getting mad, no, they don't care, but enough people and yes, yes they do.

for example, if you said adding in this game mode = 500,000 more players who continue playing this game instead of trading it in for far cry 3, or whatever, they would care a great deal, and trust me the game mode would be in. not saying that is even close to being true in this case, but it is definitely the reality.

I agree with the fact that posts should be worded politley, there's no need for hostility.

The thing that makes me laugh is that all of these types of post telling HC players to shut up are made by people who don't play HC - so are not affected in anyway. 

How would you lot like the next installment of the franchise to be HC only?  Think there would be a fair few of your lot spitting out your dummies too.

I think the fact of the matter is now days Developers should be ADDING to the COD experience NOT TAKING THINGS AWAY.

And this whole talk of numbers in playlists is nonsense - Hello Prestige playlist in BO1.....

At the end of the day I'm sure Activision know what they are doing - they are fully aware they are pushing us COD old skoolers and purists away and catering to the 'aim assist casual no scope children'.

The reason for this is kids are more likely to shell out their pocket money for half made games and add-ons without a thought.  And thats all the publishers want - they don't care about the game nor the community.

And this is another reason the HC community is getting smaller - a lot of us are going back to PC versions of the game where Mods and custom maps are a million times better than the new incarnations.  I'm afraid to say that being a COD player from Vanilla I am heading the same way.

Anyways, those are my thoughts and do not wish to cause offense.  Just a sad sad time for the COD series.

In response to your comments about hardcore mode, when we all bought black op2 it was going to have the same hardcore modes as mw3,if treyarch had advised all gamers that there would be very limited hardcore modes I am sure the game would not have sold as many, also we all agreed to terms and conditions of play does not mean promise one thing then supply some thing else.there is thousands of complaints about the lack of information that treyarch are given to the gamers regarding hardcore modes,and to only supply 4 hardcore modes to play is pathetic Treyarch should have the courtesy to respond to the gamers questions.