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MLGTWISTED Apprentice 364 posts since
Nov 19, 2011

Best Connection Setting Is Worse For Me - Lag Comp Explained.

Posted by MLGTWISTED on Nov 25, 2012 4:25 PM

People on youtube are claiming that setting your connection on black ops 2 to best clears up all the lag comp, Im here to tel you that this is false and why it makes lag comp worse.

 

Lag compensation is based on the average ping, so, 12 players...

 

Lets say 6 players have 150ms

the other 5 have 80ms

and I have 20 ms

 

We have to work out the mean or average so...

 

6players x  150 = 900

5players x 80 = 400

me x 20 = 20

 

900 + 400 + 20 = 1320 --- Divide this number by the amount of players = 110ms

 

 

So my ping is searching for best and I get 20ms ping, great, no not great, because now those other player that aree yellow bar push the average ping up and add lag compensation to there and your xbox.  Your 20ms has to get averaged to 110ms, your reactions get cut down to 90ms, 110 - 20 = 90ms.  This puts your character model always infront of the direction your are moving, this is how you get killed behind a wall, and how you get seen before you go around the corner.

Also, how you shoot first but in the kill cam he shot first, because you are delayed by average ping, in this case 90ms.

 

The only way to partially get around this is set your connection setting to ANY, this gets you into higher ping games which can still be 4bar, but your average ping will more than likely be higher, so you get punished less.

 

 

YES ITS A HORRIBLE SYSTEM, you'd think best connection would fix everything, but it makes its worse, this is generally how the system and lag comp work, and if you suffer from lag comp in a bad way you absolutely cannot use BEST CONNECTION.

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  • MrWinkle Newbie 19 posts since
    Nov 25, 2012
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    Play combat training if u have a bad connection. I use best and i have no problems and i have never heard any of my friends talk about lag comp and i sometimes experience lag when i play zombies.

    • IllusionGames Novice 271 posts since
      Nov 22, 2012
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      lol you forgot to add - best game ever

      • MrWinkle Newbie 19 posts since
        Nov 25, 2012
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        haha its no where near to being the best but every game has its faults. i play combat training when my aim is off and when my connection is not great and i believe it helps ur connection when u do play competeively and it doesnt hurt ur stats and i have a kd 1.28.

  • Godotpwn Novice 238 posts since
    Nov 22, 2011
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    This is completely wrong. Lag compensation doesnt work like this WHATSOEVER. Basically everything you said is wrong.

     

    Here you go: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Latency_Compensating_Methods_in_Client/ Server_In-game_Protocol_Design_and_Optimization

      • IllusionGames Novice 271 posts since
        Nov 22, 2012
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        It is the way it was implemented and the way match making is being done.

         

        Imagine someone using a tool that did not know how to use it correctly to build a structure, do you need to be a genius to figure out the results? Same thing here.

  • starbuckfrack Master 11,085 posts since
    Sep 3, 2011
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    MLGTWISTED wrote:

     

    People on youtube are claiming that setting your connection on black ops 2 to best clears up all the lag comp, Im here to tel you that this is false and why it makes lag comp worse.

     

    Lag compensation is based on the average ping, so, 12 players...

     

    Lets say 6 players have 150ms

    the other 5 have 80ms

    and I have 20 ms

     

    We have to work out the mean or average so...

     

    6players x  150 = 900

    5players x 80 = 400

    me x 20 = 20

     

    900 + 400 + 20 = 1320 --- Divide this number by the amount of players = 110ms

     

     

    So my ping is searching for best and I get 20ms ping, great, no not great, because now those other player that aree yellow bar push the average ping up and add lag compensation to there and your xbox.  Your 20ms has to get averaged to 110ms, your reactions get cut down to 90ms, 110 - 20 = 90ms.  This puts your character model always infront of the direction your are moving, this is how you get killed behind a wall, and how you get seen before you go around the corner.

    Also, how you shoot first but in the kill cam he shot first, because you are delayed by average ping, in this case 90ms.

     

    The only way to partially get around this is set your connection setting to ANY, this gets you into higher ping games which can still be 4bar, but your average ping will more than likely be higher, so you get punished less.

     

     

    YES ITS A HORRIBLE SYSTEM, you'd think best connection would fix everything, but it makes its worse, this is generally how the system and lag comp work, and if you suffer from lag comp in a bad way you absolutely cannot use BEST CONNECTION.

    Besides , didnt they say the matchmaking now matches you based on PING ?

     

    So a 20 PING would not be in a game with a 150 PING.

  • ddogie Novice 144 posts since
    Nov 21, 2012
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    You can use these as examples:

     

  • Foxhound-Pro GlobalModerator 2,934 posts since
    Jul 23, 2012
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    Locking. Not only have we had many threads regarding this topic, we've also had a large amount of attempted explanations from users. At the end of the day, there are so many conflicting explanation of what is happening that it is best not to allow discussion of it due to the circular arguments.

     

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