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KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
Dec 13, 2011

Hey, Maccabi....Capp....I've got a serious question....

Posted by KUBBALL on Nov 25, 2012 10:26 AM

With all of the talk about Lag Comp, Buffer Bloat, Matchmaking, etc....I got to thinking. Why doesn't the game just....I don't know...."Work"?  It's really niether here nor there why its happening. It should just work. It shouldn't matter if I'm host, or someone in my lobby from halfway around the world is host or if I'm in a party or not...if the game is checking my ping 10 or more times per second, then there shouldn't ever be a problem.  If I rage quit (which I really try not to do) it ALWAYS migrates host. Whatever is to blame, if I am getting killed time and time again when I shot first, or I get shot before I even come around the corner, or get shot after I am behind cover....there's a PROBLEM. I hate eage quitting, but I get so frustrated that I feel like I don't have a choice. Keep in mind that there are a ton of players that are better than me, and I can deL with flat out getting beat. Happens all of the time....I don't care. But any gamer knows when the game itself is beating them....and not the opponents. Treyarch has top developers, programmers, etc. on their payroll. They just need to figure it out.

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  • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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    KUBBALL     Nov 25, 2012 10:27 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Wow. Sorry about the typos. Typing on my phone...lol

    • TOSSER Apprentice 152 posts since
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      TOSSER     Nov 25, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

      The game does work.  I've been on both sides of a good and bad connection here, I can tell when games are going to be great and when I need to just get off.  I hate that sometimes the game itself seems to dictate when I can and can't play, but I'm hoping that'll soon change.

       

      Personally, I think the game just needs some fine tuning and it'll be alright.  It's hard to make everyone happy, there are too many other factors at play here.  Poor internet connections, bad router settings, slow DNS servers, people who think they have their routers configured correct..but they don't, etc, etc, etc...

       

      I also think that with the release of every COD game, one has to make adjustments and change their gameplay a bit to adapt and learn the new maps and how each level plays out.  If you don't understand where people are coming from and where they usually hide in a fast-paced level like Hijacked for instance, you are going to get owned.

       

      I'm not Maccabi or Capp, and I'm not standing up for this game or putting it down, I'm just throwing in my two cents. 

      • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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        KUBBALL     Nov 25, 2012 10:51 AM (in response to TOSSER)

        While I agree that some people do not have their router set up correctly, anyone that's on these boards SHOULD have their routers set up correctly, as there are numerous posts/videos/links on here to show them step by step how to achieve this. Personally....I've tried everything. Multiple routers, Port Forwarding, QoS, wired, wireless, directly to my modem and am paying for two internets at my house....fiber 22ms....and DSL 32ms. Tried multiple lobbies, different party leaders, etc. but some nights its horrible and some nights its ok.

        • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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          KUBBALL     Nov 25, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

          *and on Thursday night I was all but invincible. Obviously, I was on the good side of Lag Comp or WHATEVER we are calling it.

    • TL_Bare_B_V2 Apprentice 879 posts since
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      TL_Bare_B_V2     Nov 25, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

      KUBBALL wrote:

       

      Wow. Sorry about the typos. Typing on my phone...lol

      Don't most phones have a built in spell checkers now days?

      • maccabi Master 11,805 posts since
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        maccabi     Nov 25, 2012 10:58 AM (in response to TL_Bare_B_V2)

        TL_Bare_B_V2 wrote:

         

        KUBBALL wrote:

         

        Wow. Sorry about the typos. Typing on my phone...lol

        Don't most phones have a built in spell checkers now days?

        lies!!!!!

        • rankismet Master 10,985 posts since
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          rankismet     Nov 25, 2012 12:07 PM (in response to maccabi)

          maccabi wrote:

           

          TL_Bare_B_V2 wrote:

           

          KUBBALL wrote:

           

          Wow. Sorry about the typos. Typing on my phone...lol

          Don't most phones have a built in spell checkers now days?

          lies!!!!!

           

          Nah... you just don't know how to spellz.

           

          <walks briskly>

          • maccabi Master 11,805 posts since
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            maccabi     Nov 25, 2012 1:10 PM (in response to rankismet)

            rankismet wrote:

             

            maccabi wrote:

             

            TL_Bare_B_V2 wrote:

             

            KUBBALL wrote:

             

            Wow. Sorry about the typos. Typing on my phone...lol

            Don't most phones have a built in spell checkers now days?

            lies!!!!!

             

            Nah... you just don't know how to spellz.

             

            <walks briskly>

            i do i just chose not too

      • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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        KUBBALL     Nov 25, 2012 11:00 AM (in response to TL_Bare_B_V2)

        Apparently my new EVO does not....or maybe I turned it off.

      • lovemesomecod Calculating status... 12 posts since
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        lovemesomecod     Nov 26, 2012 11:10 AM (in response to TL_Bare_B_V2)

        they do but  most suck and they try and finish your words for you

  • maccabi Master 11,805 posts since
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    maccabi     Nov 26, 2012 7:54 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    KUBBALL wrote:

     

    If I rage quit (which I really try not to do) it ALWAYS migrates host. Whatever is to blame, if I am getting killed time and time again when I shot first, or I get shot before I even come around the corner, or get shot after I am behind cover....there's a PROBLEM.

    • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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      KUBBALL     Nov 26, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to maccabi)

      Why am I being punished for having a lower ping?  If the mechanics of the game works like its supposed to, it shouldn't matter if I'm host or not. Right?

  • ComplexityX2 Calculating status... 10 posts since
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    ComplexityX2     Nov 26, 2012 8:04 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    I think the point we are missing is why are we talking about any of this at all.  What happened to a game simply working when you buy it.  There isnt a game that exsists today that doesnt have to be patched a hundred times.  It makes me wonder if they even play the game before its packaged.  I dont remember doom having patches, i dont remember mario having patches, I dont remeber COD4 having to patch a dozen things right when it came out.  Yes simpler games, but worse tech and coding. 

     

    I took his post to simple be asking;  Can we have a product that works the first time or have those days passed us by?

     

    You guys "won" when you made cod4.  Just give me that exact same game with some new maps ... NOT NEW SPAWN CODING ... NOT NEW MP CODING ... and some new guns and killstreaks and thats it ... you "WON" again.  Its that easy.

     

    I apologize but I am going to repeat the above paragraph in a couple different languages in case the developers cant read ... anyone know how to add audio in case the developers are blind as well?

     

    For some reason my translation program isnt letting me import the translation to the post. So hopefully bold letters will convey my thoughts.

     

    You guys "won" when you made cod4. Just give me that exact same game with some new maps ... NOT NEW SPAWN CODING ... NOT NEW MP CODING ... and some new guns and killstreaks and thats it ... you "WON" again. Its that easy.

     

  • IEliteWalker Apprentice 966 posts since
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    IEliteWalker     Nov 26, 2012 8:07 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    No one has identified what the problem is but most of us think it's lag compensation.

    • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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      KUBBALL     Nov 26, 2012 8:45 AM (in response to IEliteWalker)

      Some people do not think that its Lag Comp. That's fine....I really don't care what it is. I just want it fixed. Multi-billion dollar franchise should have top notch developers that can fix it.

  • capp00 Expert 1,418 posts since
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    capp00     Nov 26, 2012 10:44 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    In all honesty, I'm not seeing problems with "lag comp" this game, at all. The only lag I see is if it's a bad host and everyone is rubberbanding or if it's dropping frames.  But I don't ever feel a second behind like in Modern Warfail 3.

  • Steve2589 Apprentice 997 posts since
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    Steve2589     Nov 26, 2012 11:04 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Anyone who hasn't had problems with poor connections or lag you are very lucky and I envy you. I actually told my friend the other night that I envy his poor internet connection (compared to mine) because whenever I go round his house and play online it runs beautifully. As soon as I get home and boot up the game it's a lag fest about 50% of the time. Lately, I've noticed I'm getting into a lot of lobbies where at least half of the lobby has 3 bars so maybe they are getting that bit right now, because before it would show everyone on 4 bars yet it would lag like mad.

  • gominomi Expert 122 posts since
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    gominomi     Nov 26, 2012 11:11 AM (in response to KUBBALL)

    i agree with this, with why a game cannot just work. i've died way too often running around a corner, only to find out that the enemy saw me 2 seconds ahead of me. then i see ppl teleporting...

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