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8_x Novice 426 posts since
May 26, 2012

If Ghost is anti UAV, then forcing a player to run to make it work makes zero sense. Maybe they should make guns only fire if you are running as well.

Posted by 8_x on Nov 18, 2012 3:53 AM

I feel embarassed for Treyarch. I am a run and gunner, but this is just plain silliness.

 

If they are going to do silly childish junk like the new Ghost in BOPS2, why stop there?

 

How about grenades that only blow up if you lay down?

 

RPGs that only fire if you jump on the air?

 

Knives that only slash if you are walking backwards?

 

Flash bangs that only detonate if you dive and then crawl after throwing them?

 

I mean, all of these things are as absolutely ludicrous as making a UAV jam perk require a player to run to use it.

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  • Echoez Newbie 9 posts since
    Dec 19, 2011
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    So basically what you're saying is "I'm a camper, but I'm saying I run and gun to not get trolled, and hope they bring back the old ghost."

    Correct?

    • ghorman Expert 1,004 posts since
      Sep 15, 2011
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      I think as a sniper they shouldn't have to move for ghost. I play mostly objective base game modes. This new ghost is not objective friendly. We normally leave two guys to protect the first capture point.

      • PearsonGW Calculating status... 8 posts since
        Nov 10, 2011
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        If you snipe, you are probably not playing the objective... Apologies if you are but most snipers in objective game modes just sit at back of the map with their scope on the objective picking off kills. These people deserve to be painted on the map

        • Harv72 Expert 1,793 posts since
          Nov 13, 2012
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          If they're killing people who are on the objective, then they are, in fact, playing the objective.

    • wikked75 Expert 1,073 posts since
      Aug 27, 2011
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      i don't read it like that. it is a valid argument. how can you have sniper weapons in the game, but not allow a person to actually be a sniper? i don't know, i just see it differently, i guess. i guess the devs are just that into quickscoping.

  • llTheRockSaysll Calculating status... 1 posts since
    Nov 18, 2012
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    You might be using it for what it was intended for but honestly I doubt it. Almost every death I ever got in Blops was from someone laying on their ass using Ghost and not playing objectively at all. Personally I'm glad they fixed it and tbh wish they would just get rid of it completely in future games. It's an arcade style shooter where the intent has always been to run and gun and may the best players win. Unfortunately all the bad players and campers seem to work endlessly to ruin it every year. For the most part, every COD game has had it's issues throughout the years, but, in the end the biggest problem has been those players who never cease to amaze with their epic camping and manipulation of certain weapons and perks to make the game not fun anymore.

    • UncleFestar Newbie 27 posts since
      Nov 17, 2012
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      If you can't kill a camper, you're not the best player. You have a lot of tools to kill a camper.

    • mastermc Calculating status... 15 posts since
      Aug 28, 2011
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      if you can't kill now witht eh mm scanner that lets you see through walls and kill corner campers.

      or the targeting scope that highlights target with a big red triangle, or how bout the new humming grenade skillstreak drone.

       

       

      most peoople that used ghost used it the right way they just got called campers by people like you. if they where gaurding point b in domination they where called campers, if they where gaurding their flag in CTF they where campers, hell if they gaurds headquarters they where campers. Heaven forbit they listen to the big green arrow that says defend.

  • Violator Novice 176 posts since
    Nov 12, 2011
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    Ghost rushers are way more OP then some noob sitting in a corner with Ghost.

    Real campers that are shotting from range are the best COD players there are.

    That is how the game is supossed to be played.

    I don't need Ghost to do that, I just need good spawns and good maps.

    • vTcGoose Newbie 30 posts since
      Dec 5, 2011
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      Violator wrote:

       

      Ghost rushers are way more OP then some noob sitting in a corner with Ghost.

       

      This is the truth. I hit that ol'prestige button and took Ghost with me. Why? Well I can put on a rush class with Ghost and virtually go unseen. Was I a sniper / objective defender in previous titles? Yes, but not anymore; not unless I'm using the stinger equivalent (foget name) and on an open map.

       

      Playstyle is playstyle period. It shouldn't be determined (or hit by prejudice as one said) by a Perk.

       

      Resolution? Adapt to the ever changing world of FPS games and companies who look at the bottom line and big picture $$$$ and not the true fans of the game and e-sport*.

       

      *esport used somewhat loosely.

       

      - Goose

  • Bomfy Newbie 14 posts since
    Nov 14, 2012
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    Thanks for not posting everything in caps today.  Much easier to read.

  • RawBrah Novice 91 posts since
    Dec 7, 2011
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    They can not do it right, can they?

     

    Using Ghost or CB was frowned up on by a lot of people, it was for the noobs, the campers and the slow people. People should not be using a silencer or ghost at all, be a man. Atleast I got told that quite a lot. I am a rusher, I used to rush with Ghost and a silencer.

     

     

    I feel sorry for the snipers, the real snipers. But this new thing works like it should. Launchers lock on pretty fast in this CoD, Counter UAV is easely obtained. Or just pop your own UAV in the air, all bases covered.

    • XGunsmokeX Newbie 43 posts since
      Jul 21, 2012
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      I agree. People who dig in with teammates all around and like mid/long range AR fights don't get how if you are zigging in and out of the enemy team, Ghost is your best line of defense. I never liked the guys who hid in a corner running Ghost just waiting for someone to run into their bullets.

      So, I am pleased with the 'new' Ghost. If you like to camp, at least now, you have to do a little patrolling to stay invisible instead of trying to be a wallflower.

  • amak2 Calculating status... 19 posts since
    Nov 15, 2012
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    The camper problem is a bigger issue on console... literally you will get into lobbies of teams of console noobs just sitting in corners with ghost /assassin... I've yet to see this on pc... so I'm glad for the console kids they implemented this.

     

    Basically camping is part of the game but if no-one actually moves the whole game which happens there is no game.

  • -Jedi- Newbie 83 posts since
    Nov 18, 2012
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    Real snipers, that is, the ones out there actually killing people? Camp for two reason.

     

     

    1 - They are waiting for their target.

         Note: When the target comes, they kill them. Then they GTFO.

     

    2 - They are in a very stealthy position, and are defending an area to help their squad. This often ends in death for the sniper, especially prolonged fights.

     

    Now, I'm fairly decent at this game. Generally I'm at the top of the board, or top 3 at least. I got the good scorestreaks, better reflexes, and Godly aim (Sniping with an smg in Blops 1. Ironsights.)

     

    Now, sniping isn't my favorite, but I like understanding the tactical position of my team in a match. Sometimes that calls for another sniper, and I'll step in.

     

    here's what I do.

     

    *Go to area with LOS. Find target, kill.

    *Immediately move to an area covering flanking position of my previous position. Kill same target.

    *Go somewhere else with LOS. Leave claymore for guy I killed twice, killing him a third time. Find another target, kill him.

     

    **Repeat.

     

    That's sniping.

  • amak2 Newbie 19 posts since
    Nov 15, 2012
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    It's funny you guys are talking about sniping in a game with only like 2 maps big enough to actually warrant a sniper rifle... barely... Lmao

  • catharsism Newbie 27 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011
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    It makes 0 sense, this game's emphasis is objectives, yet it wants you to play in a manner that is 100% anti objective....what good is a team in capture the flag if all 6 constantly rush the enemy flag....or a domination team where all 6 constantly rush upwards in the map? Any team worth it's salt would destroy those players for that wreckless playstyle and yet that's the only way treyarch will effectivly let you play. If you don't run you show up on ghost, so playing TACTICALLY is worthless. Defending a location is worthless, anything that has to do with DEFENSIVE play is worthless and it's all due to ghost. How do they expect you to play tactically and defend an objective when you get punished for defending, and yes this game punishes you for doing that. You sit to snipe over objective A while your team takes B then you show up constantly on UAV for lack of movement. If that's not bad enough there are also milimeter scopes (which personally I enjoy, this is the subtle anti-camper thing the game needed, no complaints there was a good idea). So the game tells you to play an objective, then punishes you for doing it....perfectly logical, sad to say the most optimal way of playing right now is a vector with a lazer and just hip firing as you run circles with ghost on. Yea way to pander to the 1% of players.

  • hartsan Newbie 7 posts since
    Nov 27, 2011
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    sII have several accounts and one of them dedicated solely for sniping. Actually I rather die than take an SMG from the ground to keep my stats clean with that account. Now with BO2 sniping would have been fun still, but without Ghost it's sometimes only horrible spawn and die fest.

     

    Black Ops 1 was great because you could select from several strategies for each game or situation. For example I used SMG with Lightweight/Maraton combo for running and gunning, Ghost and Silencer for tactical rounds. If I knew I have to plant a bomb and kill several enemies in an SND round if others from my lobby suck etc I could actually do it. Without ghost I wouldn't stand a chance.

     

    With snipers it has always been essential to stay hidden from run'n'gunners. If you spot them in the close quarters before they spot you, you have a slight chance to quick scope or no-scope them. It's hard enough even then because you have to get the first shot right and hope it's not a hit marker.

     

    With Ghost perk nerfed most of the tactical game play is gone. You don't have to be a camper to play tactically. That's completely two different things. Camping is when you sit in one spot, waiting for random enemy to pass by. Tactical game play is when you have adapted your own playing style to enemies' playing style.

     

    I'm pretty much disappointed that not even snipers have proper ghost but I had so high hopes for this game. With spy planes being on air all the time it's just running and gunning and nothing else. Gets boring pretty fast if you ask me.

     

    And for those guys telling us that use a "stinger" to get them down. Well I've tried. I was the only one in shooting them down and there were 1-3 spy planes all the time above the sky. All I did was shoot spyplanes and die. I can't think of anyone who wants to play matches like that.

     

    Message was edited by: hartsan (AWFUL LOT OF TYPOS)

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