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KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
Dec 13, 2011

Petition to fix/nerf Lag Compensation!  PLEASE SIGN!

Posted by KUBBALL on Nov 15, 2012 12:25 PM

http://www.change.org/petitions/treyarch-fix-nerf-lag-compensation

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  • QwertyBoredom Apprentice 1,033 posts since
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    QwertyBoredom     Nov 15, 2012 12:27 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Mate you can't just "fix/nurf" lag comp unfortunatly its a necessary part of online gaming

    • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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      KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 12:31 PM (in response to QwertyBoredom)

      They can, in fact dial it back.  MW2 had Lag Comp, but it wasn't as aggressive.

      • QwertyBoredom Apprentice 1,033 posts since
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        QwertyBoredom     Nov 15, 2012 12:36 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

        This game uses a different netcode designed to handle the larger number of players, this has been explained by multiple people on this forum (some of which are qualified networking guys) the code works different so it can handle more people so it can't "just be changed to how it was before".

        • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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          KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 12:43 PM (in response to QwertyBoredom)

          Of course it's different, but my point was that it can be changed.  The poster suggested that it can't be changed.

    • TOTALLETDOWN Newbie 3 posts since
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      TOTALLETDOWN     Nov 15, 2012 2:51 PM (in response to QwertyBoredom)

      SIGNED SIGNED AND SIGNED

  • Tick7 Apprentice 616 posts since
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    Tick7     Nov 15, 2012 12:27 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    A petition? LOL.

     

    They are working on it, relax.

    • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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      KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 12:30 PM (in response to Tick7)

      Yeah, they were working on it for 10 months with MW3 until they finally just said "Oh well"....Just sayin"

      • QwertyBoredom Apprentice 1,033 posts since
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        QwertyBoredom     Nov 15, 2012 12:31 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

        different Dev, BO had some connection issues at the begining too and 3arch actually tried to patch it.

        • YFV1 Newbie 57 posts since
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          YFV1     Nov 15, 2012 12:33 PM (in response to QwertyBoredom)

          Keyword there is TRIED i presume.

          • QwertyBoredom Apprentice 1,033 posts since
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            QwertyBoredom     Nov 15, 2012 12:38 PM (in response to YFV1)

            TBO i haven't had any lag issues yet, its likely because of match making and where I live.

        • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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          KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 12:34 PM (in response to QwertyBoredom)

          Of course it's a different developer but I have the same problem with BO, but to a lesser extent than MW3.  Just don't have a lot of confidence in the whole Activision Franchise, sorry to say.

      • Tick7 Apprentice 616 posts since
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        Tick7     Nov 15, 2012 12:40 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

        KUBBALL wrote:

         

        Yeah, they were working on it for 10 months with MW3 until they finally just said "Oh well"....Just sayin"

         

        Different developer. Just sayin...

         

         

        It'll be sorted out. Just like in Black Ops. Just like in MW3. Give it a few days/week and it'll be better. Petitions? lollll

        • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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          KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 12:45 PM (in response to Tick7)

          It was never fixed for me in MW3.  Maybe for people with average ping to host.  If you read one of my previous posts, you will see what great lengths I have gone to just to play the COD series the last few years.

        • jhonnydizznill Novice 110 posts since
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          jhonnydizznill     Nov 15, 2012 3:17 PM (in response to Tick7)

          LOL MW3 was sorted out? That NEVER happpend. MW3 still broken. Expect no fix, Activision got there money. 3 straight titles that have bad hit detection should tell us all that there will be no FIX, just a verbal BAND AID. They dont care if we buy a 1st person shooter and the whole gaming community cant kill. THEY GOT THERE MONEY. BOTTOM LINE FOLKS. EXPECT NO FIX. EVER.

  • YFV1 Newbie 57 posts since
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    YFV1     Nov 15, 2012 12:31 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    I don't know if this is somehitng you can really fix. Just hope it resolves itself I say.

  • Tomnician Novice 211 posts since
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    Tomnician     Nov 15, 2012 12:36 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Just sign it...

     

    Signed

  • capp00 Expert 1,418 posts since
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    capp00     Nov 15, 2012 1:26 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Ya, it's not a 1 button fix. "lag comp" isn't even the correct terminology for the problems. It's more than 1 aspect of the core engine.

     

    And, this type of petition was done for Black Ops 1 and MW3. Neither of which were ever fixed.

    • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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      KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 2:03 PM (in response to capp00)

      I'm sure its not a 1 button fix. Developers CAN fix or adjust the code though. I know petitions were done for previous COD games, but it can't hurt to try. If you don't want to sign it, don't. Judging by the number of views this is getting, and by the number of other posts, I would venture to guess that its not a small number of Gamers that are experiencing this problem.

       

      I don't know what the correct terminology is, but Activision Tech Support is using it.

  • CowboySr Master 3,762 posts since
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    CowboySr     Nov 15, 2012 1:26 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    signed

  • eville slaya Newbie 10 posts since
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    eville slaya     Nov 15, 2012 1:29 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Signed

  • ghorman Expert 1,004 posts since
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    ghorman     Nov 15, 2012 2:05 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    signed

  • Nubdub Expert 1,493 posts since
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    Nubdub     Nov 15, 2012 2:24 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Signed.

     

       For people that say all online games have lag compensation. I AGREE. The question is not if it has it but if it works correctly. In the case of this game as well as BO and MW3 it does not. If matchmaking cannot be fixed (which it seems to get worse not better every year) then adjusting the lag balance is the only way.

    • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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      KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 2:28 PM (in response to Nubdub)

      Very well said, Sir!

      • Manus_Dei Calculating status... 76 posts since
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        Manus_Dei     Nov 15, 2012 2:48 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

        Yep, lag compensation is a good thing and is necessary if you're not gaming on a LAN, but this is really a bad implementation of it.

         

        The sheer number of people it appears to be affecting negatively is just puzzling.

         

        A franchise this large, that's been making pretty much the same game for so long should not have this degree of difficulty doing their jobs correctly.

         

        If this were a new project I could understand growing pains at launch, but come on, by now they should be able to program this stuff in their sleep.

        • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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          KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 2:52 PM (in response to Manus_Dei)

          That is precisely what I was thinking.

          • Manus_Dei Newbie 76 posts since
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            Manus_Dei     Nov 15, 2012 3:00 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

            I might try taking an apple I have in my kitchen and seeing if I can plug the ethernet line from my router into it then into my xbox, maybe that will fix the issue...

             

            Seriosuly, there's nothing left I can do, I've already tried every combination of:

             

            Forwarding my ports

            DMZ'ed my Xbox's IP

            Changed the DNS servers

            Tried different routers

            Tried wired and wireless connections

            QoS/adjusted bandwidth rates

            MTU settings galore

             

            Next step is tethering my xbox to my PC and introducing artificial latency.

             

            I really don't want to do that though for many reasons.

            • KUBBALL Novice 114 posts since
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              KUBBALL     Nov 15, 2012 3:11 PM (in response to Manus_Dei)

              I've tried all of that on multiple routers myself.  Nothing seems to help.  I bridged my PC and XBOX and tried a couple of different free networking programs but I couldn't get them to do what I wanted.  They just wanted to slow down the connection.  That's not what I want.  I want to DELAY my packets by 50ms-75ms.

              • Manus_Dei Newbie 76 posts since
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                Manus_Dei     Nov 15, 2012 3:17 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

                http://turbobit.net/download/free/tk8qkkmp3vqp

                 

                You can give that a try if you want, offers options to introduce latency into the connection of your choice.

                 

                I have no idea what this would mean though for EULA of xbox live/Cod though, but I don't see anything wrong with slowing down your own conection, should be viewed similarly as upgrading or downgrading with your ISP.

        • IMSOBAWSome Newbie 40 posts since
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          IMSOBAWSome     Nov 15, 2012 3:07 PM (in response to Manus_Dei)

          i wish i could like this and infinite amount of ties its like you read my mind

  • mdub Expert 1,791 posts since
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    mdub     Nov 15, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Signed.

  • Hobeinator Newbie 52 posts since
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    Hobeinator     Nov 15, 2012 2:33 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Signed

  • RY01A Newbie 1 posts since
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    RY01A     Nov 15, 2012 2:43 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    put it back to mw2 style where if your connection sucked its laggy n crap as the majority of connections nowadays are ok so those who need compensation against better connections are gonna have to sort it out

    SIGNED

  • [609]Briq Newbie 28 posts since
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    [609]Briq     Nov 15, 2012 3:03 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    signed, the lag comp in this game needs a lot of work.

  • CHRISSY Apprentice 339 posts since
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    CHRISSY     Nov 15, 2012 3:06 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    signed

  • Foxhound-Pro GlobalModerator 3,090 posts since
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    Foxhound-Pro     Nov 15, 2012 3:21 PM (in response to KUBBALL)

    Locking. We don't do petitions on our boards.

     

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