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8002 Views 32 Replies Latest reply: Nov 12, 2012 1:18 PM by SuspectOnFoot RSS
cookiedood Master 1,006 posts since
Sep 22, 2011

can't believe black ops 2 hardcore isn't ricochet lol

Posted by cookiedood on Nov 11, 2012 4:39 PM

I remember now why I left black ops and went back to mw2 lol

I codnt be arsed waiting 14 seconds or getting kicked cos my dipshit team players kept running in front of my gun lol

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  • ChestSplittah Master 8,888 posts since
    Jun 11, 2012
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    Hopefully they'll be banning people immediately for TK on purpose.

  • SuspectOnFoot Novice 222 posts since
    Jun 24, 2012
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    Is Team Killing against any rules? Or just seriously frowned upon?

     

    One would assume they'd mention it specifically in the guide to punishable offenses.

    • slyaudio Apprentice 554 posts since
      Aug 29, 2011
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      Unfortunately this is a good point. Unless they explicitly state it, people are going to constantly quote nonsense like this.

       

      I used to think the 3 strike rule was far superior than richochet in most ways because if forgives the players for mistakes. However, richochet was a pain in the arse for airstrikes and I can see 3 strikes being even worse since it would be possible to accidently nuke your entire team and get kicked in an instant.

       

      The best system was Cod3 with punish or forgive 3 strikes... but lots of good things of the past have been torn from the game over the last 5 or so years.

  • andynewns Apprentice 327 posts since
    Oct 13, 2011
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    Straight up hardcore I can't wait, I had enough of team mates jumping infornt of me playing in Public lobies.

     

    Can any one confirm if noobs are gone from HC ???

  • maccabi Master 11,836 posts since
    May 31, 2011
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    3 tks and boot is how hardcore should be,

    Back when vahn was discussing the changes to the hc playlists in blops1 he asked the hc community about maybe adding richochet as they (3arc) had never used it the over whelming response then was no, when Iw knee jerked ric on us in mw3 , changing it back was  the most requested change in hc from the community.

    • rlbl Master 6,046 posts since
      Sep 8, 2011
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      I prefer non-ricochet boots, but it does make your killstreak choices very difficult.  It would be nice if streaks did not contribute to TKs.

       

      If maps were huge you could coordinate an attack, but I remember in BO1 if you got a chopper or carpet bomb, it was an almost guaranteed boot.

       

      Off-Topic: MY GAME IS EN ROUTE!!!

      • wridtrvlr Master 2,797 posts since
        Jan 27, 2012
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        This really doesn't concern me that much.  Just means you need to pick and choose which scorestreaks you are going to stick with. 

         

        Off topic: My status also reads shipped, I wonder if I will get it today?!?!

        • rlbl Master 6,046 posts since
          Sep 8, 2011
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          off - topic: I do not expect mine today as it is a government holiday so there is no mail delivery (unless of course it is being shipped by courier... but then I still will not get it before this eve as they will have to take it off the truck)

           

          on - topic:  Yeah never been an issue for me either as I choose defensive/low KS in HC...

    • acemcl_1969 Novice 77 posts since
      Sep 24, 2011
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      I would much prefer Ricohet to actually being booted for TK's.

       

      There are many times when I am shooting and an idiot decides to step into my line of fire to try and steal the kill, or just isn't paying attention ... why should I be booted out my game & lose all my hard earned stats for someone elses fault.

       

      Although, I would say that it does prevent the idiot who decide to RPG his/her own team at the start of a match just because he/she is a troll/idiot

      • maccabi Master 11,836 posts since
        May 31, 2011
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        acemcl_1969 wrote:

         

        I would much prefer Ricohet to actually being booted for TK's.

         

        There are many times when I am shooting and an idiot decides to step into my line of fire to try and steal the kill, or just isn't paying attention ... why should I be booted out my game & lose all my hard earned stats for someone elses fault.

         

        Although, I would say that it does prevent the idiot who decide to RPG his/her own team at the start of a match just because he/she is a troll/idiot

        richochet has equal problems

         

        imo the three tk rule is alot fairer. it will remove the team tk muppets off the bat,

         

        But to give you some food for thought with the points you raised..

         

        You mentioned stats with rochochet people walking into your fire reduces your k/d as you die everytime it happens.

         

        the worst that can happen with the 3 tk rule is you get a loss which is alot easier to negate in one game.

         

        The point of hc is to check your fire and not throw nades willy nilly ect, while each system (3 tk and rich) has its pros and cons both affect the player whose fire is walked into

         

        and to be honest its very rare imo to find yourself booted under a 3 tk rule f you play smart

         

        *disclaimer im not saying either opinion is right or wrong as both are right

         

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        • acemcl_1969 Novice 77 posts since
          Sep 24, 2011
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          You say the worst that can happen is a loss but, and feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, don't you lose other stats like kills v death and weapon improvements.

           

          If the worst is a loss, then I understand your comment and agree, to an extent.

           

          HC does control how you shoot & what you do with Nades etc, probably why I enjoy it so and why I'm so peeved that they have introduced only 4 game types for us !!

          • rlbl Master 6,046 posts since
            Sep 8, 2011
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            Can you elaborate on which game types are there at the moment.

             

            That would be interesting to know.

            • acemcl_1969 Novice 77 posts since
              Sep 24, 2011
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              NP's .. I did a quick summry in another thread but here goes ...

               

              Hardcore = FFA, CTF, S&D & TDM

               

              Core ... everything we are used to including HQ, TDM, S&D, CTF, various mosh pits .. also Hardpoint, and a few others I can't remember right now.

              • rlbl Master 6,046 posts since
                Sep 8, 2011
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                Damnit. No HC for me!

                 

                (I only play Dom, FFA (sometimes), and HQ in HC)

                 

                *sigh*  why 3ARC... WHY!!!!!?!??!

                 

                (lol)

              • wridtrvlr Master 2,797 posts since
                Jan 27, 2012
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                But what about KC??  They are including KC, and HCKC, correct???

                • acemcl_1969 Novice 77 posts since
                  Sep 24, 2011
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                  Nope, just Core KC.

                   

                  Now, possibly these for game types are in because it's pre-launch and more will appear after tonight ... here's hoping !!

                  • wridtrvlr Master 2,797 posts since
                    Jan 27, 2012
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                    FML, HCKC is all I really played in MW3....

                     

                    CORE is just so...blah!  Whatever, I guess the health regeneration and HUD will only help me be more beastly.  I hope they add HCKC later, or maybe like you said, they will have an update and it will be there on release!  (yea right....)

  • Elite-Rebel-XX Novice 445 posts since
    Aug 18, 2012
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    Back to Trolling

  • Thesandman Master 1,531 posts since
    Dec 13, 2011
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    So out come the rocket launchers at the start of each round, just brilliant...not!

      • fLoRiDa_KrAcKeR1 Expert 1,157 posts since
        Jan 17, 2012
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        I really only played HC kc also. But when I moved back to black ops 1 I play HC CTF which I'm glad to see is back, although I'd say kc is a quick way to rank up

  • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
    Sep 8, 2011
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    The point of hardcore is that you have to think about everything you do. now people trolling is a easy fix, get kicked from one game no big deal, mistakes happen. Get kicked from the second and you don't need to be in hardcore so give them a 10 minute ban from hardcore. Get kicked again after that, a hour and eventually get banned for a day. They wouldnt need to ban people by hand if the game already punishes the trolls.

     

    As for killstreaks, you just have to be careful. I like to call out when i'm going to use a killstreak. Take the napalm strike I would tell them the location I'm going to land it and give them a few second to clear. When I get a chopper gunner I let them know to stay indoors.

  • whiteknight1902 Expert 1,489 posts since
    Aug 2, 2011
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    Remember not to use care packages when playing with randoms, I am sure people will team kill for them

  • BlackhawkbillOO7 Novice 289 posts since
    Sep 18, 2012
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    I was curious... If you are team killed does the death count against you? I didn't mind it if I got team killed by accident because it just screwed up my Killstreak not my KD. I am actually looking forward to the trolls this time...nothing worse than posting up for a second to reload behind cover just so some troll can block you in and you are totally powerless...

  • SuspectOnFoot Novice 222 posts since
    Jun 24, 2012
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    Speaking a former team-killer myself: IT'S NOT FUN TO TEAM KILL IN RICOCHET!

     

    In BO2:

     

    You are in complete control of who you team kill, because you aren't relying on your teammate shooting you when you jump in front of them - YOU do the shooting. Because of this, you can time the kill - like in S&D Overtime, or right before they grab their Care Package.

     

    You can whip out an RPG to kill everyone at the start (not just kill yourself with ricochet).

     

    In MW3:

     

    Team killers were rare, because it wasn't fun to do. At best, you could essentially just suck thereby hurting your team...occassionally you could jump into someone's line of fire.

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