Sep 27, 2012 9:56 PM
Is it cheating, exploiting, or just being douchy spawn trapping.
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A friend of mine and I went into a match in terminal that was already in progress. We saw that they had been MOAB'd but thought nothing of it. Turns out the other team was positioned so that our team would spawn only where A would be and specifically inside the little shop. I died about 5 times before I could even move. I mean, the WHOLE team was shooting into the shop where we would spawn. I got out of the shop twice and managed to get a couple of them before I died again and respawned there.
I checked their kills while in the match and they were 68-7 with like 59 assists. And the numbers kept rising. I'm surprised that match didn't end quickly from our team backing out. I managed about 10 deaths before I quit. Unfortunately, I did not have my theater recording on, so I can't remember who it was that was doing that.
What's your PSN ? I can check on Elite and see if its a spawn trapping clan.
it's kelly_kelly89
it's one of the last matches from last night. But I did not have my theater recording on, so it didn't record onto my vault. and when I went to look for the players in 'recent players met,' they were not there.
Edit: I looked for it on my elite and it shows that it was at 6:01pm last night. Shows that I had 0 kills, 0 deaths and that they went 32-4 and so on. I don't know if it's because I left early or what, but those are not the right scores. I see some of their psn names on there though.
Yes, it's a no-no ...
Happens all the time in DOM. You can litterally position yourself 10ft away from the spawn and it still won't flip
It is an exploit of a poor map design coupled with a bad spawn system.
This is totally possible to do on some maps (mission and terminal come to mind) where you can be very close to the spawn and it doesn't flip.
It is very poor sportsmanship... but seriously, if someone spawns right in front of you... are you not going to shoot? I appreaciate they should not be spawning there... but seriously?
I'm noticing more and more spawntrapping in all gamemodes. For instance today while playing KC on Bootleg my team had the enemy in a very loose spawntrap in the market. We all kind of held back alittle and didn't push too far. We were spread out just enough to make sure we knew where they were coming from but not enough to where they would spawn behind us
It worked out really well
it does happen on all game modes, On Arkaden we had them spawn trapped outside the mall area. Almost all maps have a spawntrapped area specially when playing Dom
yeah.. I have a few friends that no matter what game they play (TDM, KC etc...) they go for map control:
Being in strategic places on the map so that the enemy always spawns on one side so they know where they are coming from. It is not a trap (as they are not spawning in the same place)... they just do not advance beyond certain points on the map.
It makes me think how the "rushers" in the game are those are causing the spawns to flip making it possible for people to spawn behind you.
rushers will die the most, specially those that don't want to change their playstyle, they will die everytime because most likely the other team will be playing defensively. A good rusher will flip the spawn making it harder to control the map.
It sounds like they may have been guilty of spawn killing and if so that is a bannable offense. Simple spawn trapping is not bannable but if they are all ADSing the shop and you keep spawning there then that would be Spawn Killing.
yes, that is what they were doing, there was one under the plane, one on top of the stairs leading to the plane, about 4 on the other side of the hallway laying down, and the rest in various spots in the back. They were all adsing and shooting at the shop. The killcam would actually stop at 0 and I would have to press square only to go back to the killcam again.
In DOM it's hit or miss. I'd say if they are strategically positioned to where you are spawning in front of them and completely unable to move, that is definitely bannable. If that's not the case, then they won't be punished. Is it fair to the enemy team? No. But the devs aren't concerned with spawn trapping, it's the spawn killing that they are releasing bans for.
I've personally only experienced spawn killing twice in my MW3 career. Both times was on DOME with a certain clan I won't mention here. Each enemy was positioned throughout the map to where when you spawned, you either spawned right in front of them, or very near their position so that they didn't even have to move to get kills. They just sat there in each of their corners, popping people off as they re-spawned. That is a bannable offense. In DOM it is VERY hard to say whether a team is spawn killing or just trapping you at a certain point. Funny thing is they thought they were good for doing said spawn killing. So very sad this world we have to live in.
I still do not get why spawn trap is bannable. It has been there in previous COD games too.
Camping in spawn-annoying
Camping at flags-annoying
Everybody can do this if they want. No you don't have to be teamed up. Good players know this and can do it without a clan/friends.
Is it not part of the game trying to keep the enemy where you want them? Everybody complains when people spawn in their back, should we complain when they spawn in front of us also. Maybe complain if they spawn to the left?
It is part of the game, leave it be.
spawn trapping is not bannable... but of course it depends on what one means... so without getting stuck on definitions and semantics, look at it this way:
- If you have the map controlled so the enemy is always spawning at the same point on the map and they get shot trying to advance - this is OK (frustrating, but fine...)
- If you are in strategic places on the map (or playing certain game modes) which forces to spawn in specific places so you can kill them as they spawn - this is bad.
This exactly!! Miss you RL!!! I guess I'll just have to wait until BOPS2.
Yeah I don't miss the game, but I do miss playing with friends.
see you in a 1.5 months.
There's a difference between spawn trapping and spawn killing. If they are'nt letting the other team move at all and killing them as soon as they respawn,which is what it sounds like,they should be banned.
Cut and paste this thread to the BO2 forum, it's going to be exactly the same, apparently.
spawn killing people should be grounds for getting banned..spawn trapping is a whole nother story. i call it controlling the spawn, not to where they spawn and instanly get killed. but enough to where i can defend my flag and see where they're coming from, at least it gives them a chance to come out.
First of all, taking advantage of choke points on the battlefield is tactical. Abusing game mechanics (someone i know sets up with his friends in hardcore and basically shootd through the wall at the enemy teams spawn point and repeatedly get MOABs). Anything like that makes you a 'try-hard'. Yes you achieve it but not honestly or fairly.
In domination, two flags are all that are needed. By running into the third, you only make the enemy spawn elsewhere which can catch your team mates by suprise. Yes its more fun to continually traverse the map but if you want to win, take two flags and guard the routes leading from the enemy's territory.
I talk about that in my combat guide entitled FPS Academy (on amazon).
Extreme spawn abuse is just douchy and lame. If you can't get a MOAB or a win by yourself, you don't deserve one by using abusive tactics with your team.