I think the thing is there is always going to be that "go to gun". No matter what, and when alot of people start using it because maybe it kills in a couple less bullets than another, it becomes OP.

I will agree about the 1887 in MW2 that was a bit out of hand. When people start dying alot by the same weapons from different people, people start thinking, "well there must be something wrong with that gun", and complain.

It's just that people are stupid and have no skill in the game, so try need to blame something in the game for their bad score. There hasn't been one gun overpowered in any cod. There are just overused weapons, that's all. I don't care if I get killed by fmg9 (which rarely happens anyway) because skill will always beat any gun.

mdm123456789 wrote:

 

Out of ALL the people in the CoD comunity, why is it that most cry about a weapon being OP?

Because we want balance. Is that a bad thing?

mdm123456789 wrote:

 

I mean, can't we have SOME realism within this game? All weapons do not and are not supposed to do the same damage and have the same ROF as the others.

No, realism doesn't matter when it comes to balancing a game. For a game developer, balance should come first and only then do you think about realism(if at all).

And weapons DO NOT have to have the same rate of fire/damage/range or anything else to be balanced. High rate of fire and low recoil should mean less damage. Another gun with high damage should have  medium-high recoil and medium-fast rate of fire. Not the same. But balanced. Not too hard to understand.

mdm123456789 wrote:

 

I call bullsh*t and if these people who think they are so good at this game are infact as good as they say, then they will stop crying and beat their enemy by adapting and/or using their "skill" they claim to have. BF3 was a good game until weapons started to get nerfed beyond uselessness, thanks to these people I speak of. 

No. Nerfing/buffing weapons is a good thing. Did you wanted Frag round Shotguns to stay like they used to be in BF3? Please, if you say yes, you should not be talking about balance at all. Weapons aren't nerfed to be useless. They're nerfed to be balanced along with all of the other weapons.

mdm123456789 wrote:

 

So we need to stop complaining about "the gun that killed you" and ban together to get this lag crap and match making fixed.

The lag will NOT be fixed. So I'd rather them fix something that will actually effect our experience.

I agree with the point you're making but the thread title is untrue. The fact is there are overpowered weapons and they make the game unbalanced. Since there is a ranking system in the game and there are worldwide leaderboards that are "supposed" to showcase who is the best in the world then there must be a fair and balanced environment to play in. If many of the guns are weaker than other guns then they become pointless to use because your chances of performing well and winning are cut down drastically. If only half of the guns in the game are worth using then whats the point of the other half? Thats why strong weapons are asked to be nerfed and weak weapons are asked to be buffed. It keeps everything on a level playing field. All weapons should be better in certain ways and for the most part each one is, but there are certain weapons that are better in more ways and those weapons just make the game too easy and inevetably unfair for everyone. Sure good players can use the crappy guns and still do well, but its when the good players use the awesome guns and completely dominate the match thats what makes the guns overpowered. No one should be able to run around and dominate everyone just because they have an ACR or MP7, its merely unfair to people who wish to choose a different gun.

Alright I have explained this befoe. Weapons are not usually overpowered except the dual models of christmas time and the MP40 of waw; however weapons in this game are VERY POORLY balanced! Here are some facts you can't fight on the Mp7

- Large magazine size of 40 compared to other SMG's with 30, except the p90 with 50.

- Best iron sights in my oppinion out of every gun in the game.

- I believe lowest recoil in the entire game out of automatic weapons.

- 3 bullets to kill same as all the other automatic weapons.

- High rate of fire of around 900

- Long range of fire thanks to no recoil

So while you may not think that weapons are OP you're right; nevertheless, if anyone says weapons are balanced in this game they are dead wrong. Sure they have 60 some odd weapons, but only 10 of those are logical to take. One can not argue that fact either so.... Sure someone may like a certain gun, but I am speaking logically 80% of the guns are pointless to take.

I think this game is lacking a real dose of realism. In real life, if you spammed the barret 50 cal like I see people do, you break your neck. That being said, this is an arcade shooter, and doesn't need every gun to be "real" or "balanced" I prefer the m16 over the type95, I have a 3.2 kd using the m16 even before the patch. My most used and highest KD SMG is the UMP, and my best Sniper rifle is the RSASS. Yet I still have good stats and enjoy myself. It is all down to personal preference in this game. Every gun is not supposed to be a laser like the ACR or have the damage of the MK14. The reason people complain about guns being "underpowered" is because they got outskilled by a better player. If I am playing against a 5 year old who has no idea what he is doing, I would win every gunfight no matter what gun I am using. If you're a better player, you will eventually get a killstreak. especially in mw3, where the spawns are so situational, you can't say that a gun the fault of your death. If someone spawns behind you, it doesn't matter what gun you're using, you're gonna die.

I agree. It's ALL about tactics. You can see this through out history from sun tzu to the 300 Greeks at Thermopylae to the German Blitzkrieg in 1940. Outnumbered and outgunned yet they won? Kiddies just need something to cry about and this topic is in the top five scapegoat list for sure.