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twenty620 Novice 155 posts since
Aug 1, 2011

Black Ops 2 Unintentionally Supporting Camping

Posted by twenty620 on Aug 8, 2012 3:22 PM

First, I would like to say that I don't have anything against campers, because I find ways to out-smart them the majority of the time and sometimes I camp when I want to hold down a choke point. What I noticed about Black Ops 2's multiplayer trailer and their past ideas about anti-camping seems to be something that will backfire on those that don't favor camping. For example the X-ray scope and riot shield you can shoot through. I don't see run and gunners truly using that equipment, but I see hardcore campers using those types of equipment. What do we see campers do? Sit in a corner most likely in ADS waiting for their next victim to walk around the corner. Now they will see a lot of players coming before they get close to rounding the corner which may include frequent wall bangs and wtf moments. I see this being a problem to those that won't be wearing a ghost like perk and run around, but I'm sure most will adapt. Just something I notice and thought I would point out. Hopefully it isn't as bad as I'm imagining and the tools that were made to stop camping don't improve camping.

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  • nicedrewishfela Master 8,332 posts since
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    nicedrewishfela     Aug 8, 2012 3:27 PM (in response to twenty620)

    Why not wait for all the information to be released before making sweeping assumptions?

     

    Campers will camp even if they are only given a gun. Its what they do. The rest of us who play will use the equipment tactically to try to get an advantage in the game. We don't know in what capacity the XRay scope will be available, perhaps its a killstreak or has limited use? Plus you must be ADS to use it, so campers can still be flanked as they currently are.

     

    I wouldn't jump to conclusions until we know more. I see your point, but be patient. Campers are going to camp no matter what they put in this game, we just have to outsmart them.

    • twenty620 Novice 155 posts since
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      twenty620     Aug 8, 2012 4:08 PM (in response to nicedrewishfela)

      Then why not wait to get on the Black Ops 2 forum until the games comes out? Generalizing game information and discussing that information with opinions and partial evidence is what makes getting on here fun and exciting. Same reason some people read tabloids; we know most of the stuff is half true or not at all, but it's a form of entertainment. So, I'm entertaining the notion that camping could be a bigger challenge in this game than the previous games.

      I mentioned that I don't have any issue with camping, but the first thing that came to mind when I seen some of the equipment in the multiplayer trailer was campers. I never concluded any of the information I presented and it's not like I'm acting like I have inside information. I get on here to enjoy what people think about the upcoming game and chime in every so often.

      • nicedrewishfela Master 8,332 posts since
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        nicedrewishfela     Aug 8, 2012 4:16 PM (in response to twenty620)

        Understood, all I am saying is that its a bit early to assume that. As I stated, Campers are going to Camp no matter what, but we know so little about the perks and equipment that will be available in this game at this point its a bit early to think its going to lean one way or another. There are great discussions going on at this point about the perks and things we saw in the trailer. I'd look through and read some of them, a lot of great points being made.

         

        I was just expressing my opinion that its a bit too soon to think its going to cater to one play style over another. In fact, my feeling is that it looks like it will help all different play styles, but thats an assumption as well.

  • videogamer0425 Calculating status... 24 posts since
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    videogamer0425     Aug 8, 2012 3:30 PM (in response to twenty620)

    well a person who is trying to get a camper can just simply get the scope that lets you see through and allowing them to know where they are camping. there will be no x-ray scope like in campaign. it looks different and i dont think you can shoot through walls with it

  • myevo8you Apprentice 773 posts since
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    myevo8you     Aug 8, 2012 4:12 PM (in response to twenty620)

    The ONLY problem I see is with the riot shield. I can see a LOT of unsavory players tucking themselves up in a corner of a building placing the shield and ADS through the hole watching a door. Imagine a team of 6 doing this and never moving.......

    • nicedrewishfela Master 8,332 posts since
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      nicedrewishfela     Aug 8, 2012 4:17 PM (in response to myevo8you)

      See I was wondering if its going to be a set up item in a create a class, or if those came from a drop since 3 teammates had them. Perhaps they are killstreak rewards?

       

      I was thinking the same thing you are, but I just don't know enough yet about those shields to think the worst. I would hope the Devs would have considered this...

    • xblbw Apprentice 491 posts since
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      xblbw     Aug 8, 2012 5:32 PM (in response to myevo8you)

      I don't think you can shot through the hole. Think it is a window.

       

      The trailer is a bit misleading, after the riot shield is placed, the first person view shown when firing  is the friend or foe attachement on the modern AK thing.

       

      I could be wrong ( certainly have been before ).

    • rankismet Master 11,009 posts since
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      rankismet     Aug 9, 2012 7:50 AM (in response to myevo8you)

      myevo8you wrote:

       

      The ONLY problem I see is with the riot shield. I can see a LOT of unsavory players tucking themselves up in a corner of a building placing the shield and ADS through the hole watching a door. Imagine a team of 6 doing this and never moving.......

       

      Then I imagine large amounts of C4 and tubes being thrown their way... I doubt that will be a successful strategy.

       

  • NoLifeKing23 Apprentice 827 posts since
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    NoLifeKing23     Aug 8, 2012 4:56 PM (in response to twenty620)

    People will complain about campers as long as FPS exist. Its rather amusing.

  • kemicalsupreme Apprentice 490 posts since
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    kemicalsupreme     Aug 9, 2012 7:43 AM (in response to twenty620)

    I whole heartly agree.  The new shield looks awesome.  But it will promote camping in the end.  Hopefully they can combat this by just getting rid of the ability to see K/D and kill streaks.

  • OMFGimJOE Apprentice 499 posts since
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    OMFGimJOE     Aug 9, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to twenty620)

    My idea: A Giant circle map, with a circle 24/7 playlist.

     

    Best map ever.

    • rankismet Master 11,009 posts since
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      rankismet     Aug 9, 2012 8:00 AM (in response to OMFGimJOE)

      OMFGimJOE wrote:

       

      My idea: A Giant circle map, with a circle 24/7 playlist.

       

      Best map ever.

       

      Wwith nothing in it but a tree in the middle on a map the size of shipment.

  • XSoldat13 Newbie 77 posts since
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    XSoldat13     Aug 9, 2012 9:08 AM (in response to twenty620)

    You can't shoot through the riot shields. If you look again they are standing and their heads are shown above the top of the shield. Much like standing behind a tall box in this game's predecessors. As for the pulse sight we saw. I am sure there will be counters to it.

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