Aug 3, 2012 5:49 PM
may get flamed here butI think I noticed something....
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Call me crazy but I think alot of people ive seen tear up with a Striker have modded controllers. Awhile back I played a few games against people who had obvious modded Barrets, RSASS's, MK14's and the such. Well there were a couple games when a couple people on there team were using strikers and they tore up with them. It hit me as I was watching killcams that the Striker users also had modded controllers. The way they fired and there title said "Mods r us" or something of the nature lol. At first it didnt hit me because ive seen people fire off Stikers like this before so it was just normal. But after I realized It all became clear to me.
Now ive never had an issue with any gun on here. My point of this thread is that I think some people who use a modded remote use shottys to kinda hide the fact.
Im not saying that many people are awesome with the Striker without a modded controller but just keep your eye out and I bet you will notice. They are really as easy to spot as a Modded RSASS.
I think they are easy enough to use without one. But if you feel someone is modding, report them and move on.
if someone needs a modded controller to get kills with a striker then i just feel sorry for them, but based on the title plus the fast shooting i would say report them.
Oh yeah I didnt mean to say the a Striker isnt any good without a modded remote nor do I really even care enough to report them. And I know most people are probably going to read my thread and laugh because they're amazed I just now figured this out.
Ive just never thougth to look for a modded controller on a Striker or even a Model or KSG.
no one will get banned for a rapid fire controller.
People do all the time. You get banned for doing something illegal right? Well a rapid fire controller is illegal and thus grounds for a ban.
Its hard to say. I dont know anyone personally who has been banned period. But then again I dont know that many people personally who do things to get banned lol.
That is because you need a technique to use the striker, it can't be modded unless they have a specialist mod, the striker has a time delay on when the next shot can be fired off, so it requires a certain method to rapid fire it.
I know it cant be fired off like a PP90. But ive now seen how a modded Striker fires off from a team of admitted modders. Im not saying everyone who is good with a Striker uses it or that the Striker isnt maybe the most beastly gun in the game by itself. Im just saying that a modded Striker is almost as obvious as a modded RSASS.
Think about having a modded conroller and using a Striker with it. Wow.
Im also saying that modded controllers are more common than people think and that using a modded controller with a shotty is a good way to mask the mod.
Back in BO I would take the time to make sure I had the proof before reporting people. Now I only report them if it's super-obvious.
That said, there has been a noticeable increase in rapid fire mods and aimbots.
I guess the main reason I haven't worried about it too much is because, though these guys seem to run in party packs of 2 to 6 and have kdr's between 1.0 and 1.7, from what I've seen, you put a couple of legimately good players in the lobby with them and they get their arses torn to pieces. They are like flies: annoying but not really dangerous.
nuttin2say wrote:
That said, there has been a noticeable increase in rapid fire mods and aimbots.
I've never seen an aimbot on XBL...
Jus_call_me_J wrote:
nuttin2say wrote:
That said, there has been a noticeable increase in rapid fire mods and aimbots.
I've never seen an aimbot on XBL...
Hard to catch them. Really hard. Modern lag switches are hard to catch, too.
Just because you don't see the red box doesn't mean it isn't there. A guy showed me that in Black Ops. But there is an irrefutable way to catch it. Just gotta know what to look for.
nuttin2say wrote:
Jus_call_me_J wrote:
nuttin2say wrote:
That said, there has been a noticeable increase in rapid fire mods and aimbots.
I've never seen an aimbot on XBL...
Hard to catch them. Really hard. Modern lag switches are hard to catch, too.
Just because you don't see the red box doesn't mean it isn't there. A guy showed me that in Black Ops. But there is an irrefutable way to catch it. Just gotta know what to look for.
You mean like a 30 and 0 KD ratio ? ![]()
nuttin2say wrote:
Jus_call_me_J wrote:
nuttin2say wrote:
That said, there has been a noticeable increase in rapid fire mods and aimbots.
I've never seen an aimbot on XBL...
Hard to catch them. Really hard. Modern lag switches are hard to catch, too.
Just because you don't see the red box doesn't mean it isn't there. A guy showed me that in Black Ops. But there is an irrefutable way to catch it. Just gotta know what to look for.
I'm intrigued, will you show me the way or how to please?
He couldn't there are NO such things on MW3 , Aimbots don't excist on console . All these YouTube videos are fake .
smokesdope wrote:
He couldn't there are NO such things on MW3 , Aimbots don't excist on console . All these YouTube videos are fake .
I've seen lots of aimbot vids on YT, but always PC...
Yeah that's the only place they excist and most just want you to take a survey and download a virus lol !
smokesdope wrote:
Yeah that's the only place they excist and most just want you to take a survey and download a virus lol !
I've never tried to download one so I wouldn't know, but I mean I've never seen an aimbot vid made to look like it was made on an Xbox...
Jus_call_me_J wrote:
smokesdope wrote:
Yeah that's the only place they excist and most just want you to take a survey and download a virus lol !
I've never tried to download one so I wouldn't know, but I mean I've never seen an aimbot vid made to look like it was made on an Xbox...
I have seen some really badly made ones that show so obvious where they recoded it to make a blue X button for example. The funny thing is the video is pixelated and the blue button is clear. ![]()
But it is true that they are all over youtube and if you really watch you will notice they are QSing shots that last a quarter of a second.
Watch them 3 or 4 times and you will see all the mistakes ![]()
I haven't watched one since Black Ops which was when I first heard the term...
I was curious what the hell they were talking about...
I was never accused of aimbotting btw, my aim isn't that great...
Man, I've gone into game's where people are running around with AR and LMGs using nodded pads.
Not being funny but a lot of people have amazing trigger fingers so don't go reporting everyone you see just because they can shoot fast. 2 of my mates have mad trigger fingers they can shoot pistols like ARs from tapping ![]()
Modded controllers are only annoying wen they use the most powerful single shot gun or sniper ![]()
FrazerY wrote:
Not being funny but a lot of people have amazing trigger fingers so don't go reporting everyone you see just because they can shoot fast. 2 of my mates have mad trigger fingers they can shoot pistols like ARs from tapping
Modded controllers are only annoying wen they use the most powerful single shot gun or sniper
There's a distinct difference between a fast finger and a modded controller. And, being I have a pretty fast finger myself, it's rare I report for this issue in the first place. Nonetheless, I have seen an increase in them lately.
Regarding the other comment ... yeah, you guys are absolutely correct: no such thing as an aimbot or hack in Call of Duty. It's impossible to catch someone cheating because cheaters simply do not exist!
Now, where's that Kool-Aid?
my friend had an aimbot, he got banned for 2 days and reset. it was really glitchy though, but pissed alot of kids off in snd
my friend had an aimbot, he got banned for 2 days and reset. it was really glitchy though, but pissed alot of kids off in snd
Thanks for the respnoses guys. I was worried people were gonna think I am just salty because I got tore up by a Striker lol.
But really think about how beastly using a modded Striker would be lol. Thats gotta be an InstaMOAB. Striker would have to be the best gun to use with a modded controller.
More than anything im amazed im just now figuring people also use shottys with modded controllers lol.
I have a fast trigger finger, but I also only hit the trigger as much a I need to. If you only press the trigger enough to shoot, and not all the way down, you can shoot a lot faster. That's how most people with fast trigger fingers look like they're modding.
Of all weapons, why would anybody mod with the striker? Its fire cap is low and easy enough to time and shoot fast without modded controller.
Because it would be unstoppable. Imagine running around with be able to just hold down the trigger and let it fire off as much as you can. It would be easier to aim and everything.
If someone id gonna use a mod the question is why wouldnt the run around with a modded striker.
I can already shoot it to its max RPM limit, I have very good timing.
I more likely see people mod with high RPM weapons like Semi-Auto Snipers, MK14, and Pistols. Maybe the Striker, but it isn't a big gain doing it.
No doubt and those higher RPM weapons definately benifit more from a modded controller.
Blame IW, not the modders, Treyarch was able to patch the way the modded controllers functioned.. IW hasn't done anything about it so I doubt reporting anybody will do anything unless it can be proven.
Sorry dude, the Striker has a RoF cap. I highly doubt someone is modding with it. It's a cheap and nooby gun imo but I've never seen anyone mod with it, nor do I think it's possible.
Sure, if you had rapid fire, you'd hit the exact fire cap of the striker every time, but it wouldn't be hard to have a trigger finger essentially fast enough to do that, or to learn the fire rate well enough to hit it almost every time.
Instead of whining about modded controllers and accusing them of cheating just accept the fact that they're using the noobiest shotgun and procceed as you will.
I know the Striker doesnt fire like an SMG with or without a modded controller. But it still fires pretty fast. And its hard to tap the shoot button that fast and keep a steady aim, it takes practice, hence why most people use the full autos.
Just imagine being able to hold the trigger button in with a striker, it makes it easier to aim and to stay on your target. While using the striker is "easy mode" in itself, using a modded striker would be whole new level. And im sure all those who use mods with an RSASS or Barret wouldnt think twice about using a mod with a striker.
But my main point is you can tell the difference between a modded striker and a striker with a fast trigger finger.
electricfuneralfire wrote:
But my main point is you can tell the difference between a modded striker and a striker with a fast trigger finger.
No, you can't. You can tell the difference between a modded RSASS, SVD, MK14, or handgun because they have extremely high fire caps, so when someone is hitting that fire cap in exact rhythmic precision, it's definitely rapid fire. The striker has a fire cap. It isn't a hard fire cap to hit.
I'll admit it might be a little easier to aim if you have rapid fire but that would be much moreso the case where you actually have to ADS.
Its not neccesssarily the speed they fire their shots off, but the consistnecy and the speed they fire the shots off. If I see someone fire off 3 quick, consistant shots thats normal. But if I see someone rip thru 7-8 or more shots in a very consistant manner, chances are it could be a mod, whether it be a striker, RSASS, Barret or a pistol.
electric,
I don't like cheats of any kind. So I'm with you that things should be done to keep them out of the game.
However, the things you are saying indicate you are unaware of how a modded controller works. These guys are right: the rate of fire cap on Strikers is going to be so low that using a rapid fire controller is more trouble than it's worth.
I mean, if you're just trying to test the waters and see if people would suspect you if you used one with the Striker, go on ahead and try it. Try running around a map and never letting off the trigger.
You'll end up with a lower kdr than you started with and then get banned faster than a Chuck Yeager trying to break the sound barrier.
No, what you're looking at is going to end up in needless reporting. I'm not knocking you, I'm just saying that just because someone pops off 5 to 15 rounds really fast does not mean they are using a modded controller.
If you're not sure, just report them. Eventually your report will be looked into. The problem is that you want your reports to be accurate.
One time someone makes a rapid fire burst from a semi-auto is not enough "evidence" - even if it is 7 or 8 rounds.
Not just fast but as consistant as a full auto. We could get into about how muscles in the human body just arent made to stay flexed consistantly like that but screw all that lol.
If there is one negative thing about the Striker, its that the Striker is not fully auto. Using a modded controller eliminates that factor. And tho there is no reason to use a mod with a Striker (because the Striker in itself is beast), im sure those with modded controllers arent thinking "Well the Sriker is so good, im just not even going to use this modded controller with it" lol.
You may have a point there: I doubt someone using a modded controller is doing much thinking in the first place!
The link you sent, it's hard to catch, but the guy's shot are not even spaced.
Contrast that to the guy at the start of this video ...
I dont know if I could tell a difference or not lol. In my vid the last double kill the dude got made me think dude was using a mod. In your vid there were many examples lol. I guess when I said you can tell when a striker user is using mod as easy as a RSASS user I was wrong lol.
Anyway I agree with most of what you and everyone else said except for the fact someone using a mod isnt going to waste there time using thier modded controller with a Striker because the the Striker doesnt benifit as much from a modded controller lol.
Thanks for the input again everyone!
No prob.
Yeah, it is hard to tell the difference between a mod and someone just having a fast finger. TBH, I did not "listen" to the link I sent you. I saw the link on YouTube as I was watching the link you sent. Watching the link you sent, it was the guy's first shot or two each time he fired his gun that left me unable to say, "Yeah, mod."
On the flip side of the coin, in the link I posted, the guy's shots are clearly evenly spaced. That's not humanly possible.
It's the spacing of the shots that gives away rapid fire controllers. To hide this, some guys tap the trigger but hold it a little each time. This does a great job of hiding the mod ... but it also mostly negates any benefit of the mod.
Cheating is cheating so if someone is blatantly using a mod controller I report them. But I don't go through the trouble of hunting them down like I did in the past. Like I said, the steps taken to hide a mod controller pretty much negate the controller's effectiveness.
But, for all intents and purposes, odds are most of what people think are people using a mod controller is actually, genuinely a fast finger.
I agree, ive seen many people call a mod when there is no mod. Im thinkin dude you will know when you see it. The Striker definately has a blury line and I dont know if I could report someone for using a modded Striker because it really is hard to tell. Ive only reported one person tho and that person instakilled me when I had a jugg with an RSASS lol.
I think even pistols can be hard to call a mod on. Snipers are kinda easy lol.
I agree that there are a lot of fast trigger fingers out there. Many people whom lose encounters with these people are far too quick to jump on the 'modded controller' bandwagon.
I'm not stupid, I know that there are fast trigger fingers and I can usually tell these apart from mods because there is clearly uneven spacing between shots fired.
However, I have seen rapid fire mods on snipers and MK14's and it pisses me off. These guys clearly have a modded controller, make no qualms about it and don't try to hide it. I've been destroyed by a full-auto Dragonov!
Why these cheaters are allowed into the game is beyond me. I know things like auto-aim only exist on PC, but you don't need that when you can aim your rifle at someone and hold down the trigger to deliver the kill shot in an amount of time your not supposed to be able to.
Unfortunately I don't see this going away anytime soon, and not enough bans are going out, not serious enough that gamers give it a second thought when considering cheating.