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iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
May 24, 2011

Why do you people hate quickscoping so much?

Posted by iloveshotguns on Jul 16, 2012 2:37 PM

I mean seriously its ok to hate things like noob tubes and second chance but why quickscoping? Are you just trying to find an excuse for getting owned? I mean I get killed by a quickscoper maybe once, or twice every... what? 3 games? Its not an abuse, if you think it is you need to look up what aim assist is... and who cares if its not realistic. IT'S CALL OF DUTY.

 

It's crazy how people even want it removed, it's ridiculous!

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  • anonymous_fish Novice 293 posts since
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    anonymous_fish     Jul 16, 2012 4:51 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

    what's rediculus is that you think that it's rediculus that people (myself proudly included) want it removed it i there is another thread call "quickscoping is not a crime so don't treat it like one" or something to that effect where you will find all sorts of reasons why we hate it and a few terrible reasons why some people think it should be kept

     

    ~anonymous

    • Dead_One Novice 130 posts since
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      Dead_One     Jul 16, 2012 6:29 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

      Meh they are in the minority. I say we stick THEM in a seperate gamemode where quickdraw has no effect, random bullet mechanic, initial sway ect. The lobby will have a thousand players max I bet. And the speed of the gameplay will be 4x less. Everyone in thier sniper positions, nobody moving.

    • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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      iloveshotguns     Jul 16, 2012 8:06 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

      LOL I'm not even going to bother looking becuase its probably all going to be the same old excuse of how "its abusing game mechanics durrr" and how "its unrealistic." Pethetic excuse of excuses...

  • yates435 Master 3,488 posts since
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    yates435     Jul 16, 2012 7:03 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

    Because its an abuse of the aim assist, Buttercup. Do you know how many times I was Quickscoped in Black Ops? The answer is ZERO. And then IW(whats left anyway) and SledgeHammer(being a new and Noob game Developer) decided to have Quick-Draw effect snipers. And then the tryhards get all happy and run around being complete douchenozzles(you probably fall into this category).

     

     

    Nice to meet ya, Douchenozzle.

    • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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      iloveshotguns     Jul 16, 2012 8:09 PM (in response to yates435)

      What mechanic does quickscoping abuse exactly? LOL thats right. Also how am I tryhard for using an outclassed weapon? Make sense more please.

      • xblbw Apprentice 491 posts since
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        xblbw     Jul 16, 2012 9:32 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

        I don't have a problem with QS.

         

        People say it abuses aim assit. So I go and look at videos of what aim assist is, and I think, that can not help a QS'er. Case closed.

         

        Then when I'm in game, controller set on the desk, an opponent runs past, and WTF, my character follows him! Not sticky-aim, follows the guy.

         

        Think there is more to aim assist (or some other mechanic) than what is demonstrable in a private match.

        • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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          iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 1:33 AM (in response to xblbw)

          Sure w/e happened there may make quickscoping easier, but in no way is that an "abuse of game mechanics"

  • fell14043 Apprentice 857 posts since
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    fell14043     Jul 17, 2012 2:03 AM (in response to iloveshotguns)

    Yes, because it's so very fair to have a weapon that can one-shot kill someone through the entire gambit of ranges. Coupled with the ability to ADS as fast as an SMG and you have all the reason you need for everyone to hate quickscoping. It is cheap, period.

     

    But here's the kicker: Cheapscopers don't even have to fully ADS to have their shot go where they want it, and no other weapon class can say the same. So now they even beat an SMG in the time it takes to ADS to the point where you can make an accurate shot.

    • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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      iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 12:47 PM (in response to fell14043)

      If its soooooo OP like you described how come people in MLG dont use snipers? How come they dont run around quickscoping if its so damn cheap?

      I'm sure an intelligent being like you would already know the answer, but just in cause as a sniper if your accuracy isn't 100% your basically dead instantly and NO ONE'S accuracy is 100%, period. Also the sniper is probably a 1 shot kill about 65% of the time.

      • fell14043 Apprentice 857 posts since
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        fell14043     Jul 17, 2012 3:18 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

        Why the hostility? Did I strike a nerve?

         

        Funny, you're arguing as if I claimed it was easy. I did no such thing, only pointed out why it's cheap. I also never claimed it was OP, but here you are saying I did.

         

        Grow up, child.

        • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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          iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 4:10 PM (in response to fell14043)

          Cheap, OP, same thing. And if it isnt easy which it obviously isnt, why are you complaining? Are you mad because I work harder for my skills therefore it pays off with better results? Everyone can quickscope, the question is if you can do if effectively.

    • xblbw Apprentice 491 posts since
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      xblbw     Jul 17, 2012 8:01 PM (in response to fell14043)

      "But here's the kicker: Cheapscopers don't even have to fully ADS to have their shot go where they want it, and no other weapon class can say the same. So now they even beat an SMG in the time it takes to ADS to the point where you can make an accurate shot."

       

      That relates to when hip-fire spread is removed and not aim-assit IMO.

       

      Edit: Its also not accurate, hip fire killing is possible with all weapons. The partial ADS just removes the very large hit-fire spread of the sniper rifle.

  • jealousof12 Newbie 24 posts since
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    jealousof12     Jul 17, 2012 1:06 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

    because its bull **** you cant quick scope in real life and it beats all gun fights

    • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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      iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 4:13 PM (in response to jealousof12)

      Actually now that I think about you CAN quickscope in real life. And "it beats all gun fights" only 1/10 of the time and thats even if your an experienced sniper.

  • killaman182 Newbie 4 posts since
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    killaman182     Jul 17, 2012 2:18 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

    i has qsing cuz 1 i know its jusr a game but comeon in the army theres no qs class i like the original hardscoping its easier. 2 cuz half the time ppl try to qs and the bullet doesint hit them and it still kills them

  • Grayewsable Expert 942 posts since
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    Grayewsable     Jul 17, 2012 4:26 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

    Because most of the time when it happens, it's a case of the receiving player having no chance to fight back; it was a combination of luck and instance that caused you to die and you had no say in the matter. I think it's those features in any game that annoy the typical player - flaws of the game that allow other players to kill you regardless of how skilled or versed in that games you are.

     

    Call of Duty 4's miniature nuclear grenades and Modern Warfare 2's across the map noobtubes are two examples besides quickscoping that spring to mind.

    • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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      iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 6:43 PM (in response to Grayewsable)

      The odds of you dying from a quickscoper is totallty dependant on the quickscoper's skill level, no luck involved thier. Sure if your lucky the quickscoper might get a hitmarker (which is like 40% of the time) but thats in another equation.

      • That-tophat-walrus Newbie 13 posts since
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        That-tophat-walrus     Jul 17, 2012 7:28 PM (in response to iloveshotguns)

        but people with aim bot it takes no skill and they just run around killing people that just want to have fun it kills the game for some people.

        • anonymous_fish Novice 293 posts since
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          anonymous_fish     Jul 17, 2012 7:36 PM (in response to That-tophat-walrus)

          n00bscoping is easy, i've done it on accident and on purpose for other reasons than to get kills, so if i can do it on accident then how does it take so much skill and training? and as i have said there are very rare occasions when i'm playing with a n00bscoper that i don't get killed with one shot.

          and you (most people, n00bscopers or not) complain about the type 95 and the ACR being OP, but at least if you're fighting a guy with one of those you have a fighting chance to even get 2 shots off.

          please keep this to the one thread, i don't think i can handle arguing against so much stupidity in 3 different places

           

          ~anonymous

          • elijahgerard24legend Novice 245 posts since
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            elijahgerard24legend     Jul 17, 2012 7:48 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

            everyone is running around with sniper rifles on MW3 and they have over 20 kills???? yes quickscoping needs to go

             

            The Legend Will Return.... Be Prepared

          • xblbw Apprentice 491 posts since
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            xblbw     Jul 17, 2012 8:13 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

            I love the Type 95, I use it, especillay when I am getting smashed and I'm trying to pull it back, It is the best shotgun and sniper rfile in the game, all rolled into one.

             

            You can quick scope with it, you can hip fire it, it has excellent range, it can have a red dot, or iron sight, it is even effective silenced, it is, for all intents and purposes, a OHK weapon  (its one pull of the trigger).

             

            Any game that allows a gun like the Type 95 should allow quick scoping IMO.

            • anonymous_fish Novice 293 posts since
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              anonymous_fish     Jul 17, 2012 8:19 PM (in response to xblbw)

              which is why everyone complains about it and hate it, it is completely perfect it has no weakness and is therefor OP


              ~anonymous

              • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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                iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 8:42 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

                I love to use guns like bolt action snipers/shotguns/burst fires because they require lots of skill and practice to be used at thier maximum potential. Thats why you see more people running around with mp7's and acr's because they can't use snipers or sg's effectively.

                Now I everyone's complaining about how OP these weapons are and they ate them and want them removed because THEY CANT USE THEM, not effectively atleast

              • xblbw Apprentice 491 posts since
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                xblbw     Jul 17, 2012 9:41 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

                OP? or effective on the first pull of the trigger if you are acurate?

                 

                If shotguns are rubbish (which I think they are, due to consitancy), burst fire rifles are rubbish (which they would be in MW3, if not for T95, and snipper rifles are rubbish, that leaves you in Dullsville, with smg's and ARs, and LMG's which are all bascially the same (especillay with Stalker).

                 

                With the bolt action snips, pump shots and burst fire rifles there does'nt seem to me to be a middle ground, either they are effective, or not, on the first pull of the trigger. You don't get a second chance at close range, with the time-to-kills in MW3.

          • iloveshotguns Apprentice 367 posts since
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            iloveshotguns     Jul 17, 2012 8:36 PM (in response to anonymous_fish)

            I dont care if you've done it on accident now consistantly go positive every game just from quickscooping and youll quickly realize that VERY VERY few people can do this.

            Also a guy with type 95 can kill a quickscoper much faster and can do it more effectively.

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