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ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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Head glitching in MW3 was a complete oversight

Posted by ghamorra on Jul 15, 2012 10:04 PM

A new phenomenon occurred in MW3 that I never saw in any of the previous CoD titles. Head glitching is the cheapest tactic in the game that I can't blame the player on. It's pure laziness on the developers end for not thinking through on such an obvious oversight. Cover is there for a reason and I expect it to be used, so there's no room to blame the players for doing it

 

Every map has several key points where cover object's height is perfect for a head glitching. If you don't know; head glitching is where you can be completely concealed behind an object from opposing view yet from your view everything else is completely visible. It wouldn't be so bad if there weren't so many, however it seems that nearly every box, car, wall, or pile of debris is the perfect height to head glitch behind

 

What I ask from the developers is to take a little extra time when designing the maps and take a careful look at the height of the objects the insert

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  • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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    ChestSplittah     Jul 16, 2012 2:07 PM (in response to ghamorra)

    I first noticed this horrible glitch on Black Ops. Yes it has been possible on all there before, but Black Ops and MW3 took it to a new level. Well you have to all consider that you can hipfire SMGs and get headshots easily on those games. These games are just basically turning into action adventure games with a FPS look. MW2 campaign in the beginning stressed.." Aim Down your Sights". These games stress "just shoot" we'll give you something.

  • Aecetym Expert 1,769 posts since
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    Aecetym     Jul 16, 2012 2:34 PM (in response to ghamorra)

    Has to be fixed, same thing for when ur gun doesn't get over ur cover, if ur gun isn't over it u can't hit an enemy. Or at least make the killcams represent what really happened cause now what happens on ur screen and mine are 2 diffent things.

    • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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      ChestSplittah     Jul 16, 2012 2:41 PM (in response to Aecetym)

      I think it comes down to poor level design. How can a 50 gal drum be waist high, but when you crouch behind it...you can't see over it?  The more clutter add the worse things become.

      • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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        ghamorra     Jul 16, 2012 2:50 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

        I agree, the maps need to be clean and simple. This will:

         

        Reduce camping
        Eliminate head glitching
        Push the tempo
        Allow for more balanced weapon use
        More fun

        • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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          ChestSplittah     Jul 16, 2012 4:59 PM (in response to ghamorra)

          This was a hot topic on Black Ops CoDHq. I think it was OG KingShotgun that was highly disgusted with it along with others. What's so screwed up is. I can shoot some in the rear end while hipfiring and get a headshot. Yet I can aim directly at a head and hit invisible barriers.

          • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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            ghamorra     Jul 16, 2012 5:06 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

            I'm not sure if it's the hit detection in MW3 or the lag that's causing those types of problems. Everyday I could give an example of shooting someone in the head with perfect accuracy and not record a single hit marker let alone a headshot

            • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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              ChestSplittah     Jul 16, 2012 6:27 PM (in response to ghamorra)

              You should've seen that vid skeezyguy posted on the MW3 Patch Notes thread the other day. He was about 20 ft away with a Barrett aimed directly at a guy not even paying attention... Took 2shots... Nothing... Ran up to him with about the Barretts length between the...bam... Nothing... That is sad.

               

              I think Gump____ still has that vid on Youtube with some play on Silo where he took like 4-5 shots a guy, who wasn't even looking at him. Not even a hitmarker I believe.

              • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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                ghamorra     Jul 16, 2012 7:45 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

                I've seen videos like that on that one guys "How to win at MW3"

                • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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                  ChestSplittah     Jul 16, 2012 11:59 PM (in response to ghamorra)

                  sml? Yeah he caught a lot of crap like that. It's ridiculous. The more games they make, the worse they get.

                  • Aecetym Expert 1,769 posts since
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                    Aecetym     Jul 17, 2012 8:54 AM (in response to ChestSplittah)

                    But its pretty fun to watch of a game fails epic. Sucks if u have to play it and be victim of poor game disign.

                  • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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                    ghamorra     Jul 17, 2012 9:13 AM (in response to ChestSplittah)

                    That's him, he never posts anymore so his games name isn't as fresh in my mind as the others

                     

                    I do feel that there are some match where you're doomed to not just lose but get completely dominated because of how poorly the game functions for that match

                    • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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                      ChestSplittah     Jul 17, 2012 1:00 PM (in response to ghamorra)

                      smallz. Yeah, he is gone off to the service. He said he would be posting for quite some time. Or even be able to play the game.

  • wridtrvlr Master 2,786 posts since
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    wridtrvlr     Jul 17, 2012 6:52 AM (in response to ghamorra)

    You're pretty funny ghamorra asking the devs to take more time when creating the maps...  You know they a like chickens with their heads cut off when it comes to creativity and forethought. 

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    nickzombie     Jul 17, 2012 7:07 AM (in response to ghamorra)

    I completely agree with the notion that head glitching being one of the worst parts of the game, if not the entire franchise.

    You watch anyone of these “mlg pro” players or watch what the players on the other team are doing if you are losing a TDM, and they will always just be doing that.

    It is the cheapest tactic in the game, and must be removed.  Sadly however, they likely face much pressure from people who only care about score and only use this stupid glitch.

    Fixing it would be incredibility simple too.  All that they would have to do is design the maps so that all vertical surfaces are well over the height of the character.

    • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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      ghamorra     Jul 17, 2012 8:36 AM (in response to nickzombie)

      So simple, yet they won't even think to fix it

      • Aecetym Expert 1,769 posts since
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        Aecetym     Jul 17, 2012 8:52 AM (in response to ghamorra)

        Cause with BO (not so much) and with MW3 (a lot) ppl stopped playing COD or don't want to buy or play another fail game. Now the ppl that are left are the once that abuse those glitches or are the once that benefit of the lag compensation, and yea the old fans that hope this will be a better improved game. Changing even for the better will cost them there precious wannabies.

        • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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          ghamorra     Jul 17, 2012 9:53 AM (in response to Aecetym)

          I'm one of those people who have quit (as of yesterday when I was have a muscle from throwing my PX5's), I'm sure I'll be back to dabble but my attention is moving to another game

      • ChestSplittah Master 8,700 posts since
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        ChestSplittah     Jul 18, 2012 2:18 PM (in response to ghamorra)

        I hope they've addressed it this year. It was a big complaint from aspects/dimensions of the community with Black Ops.

  • josh1073 Expert 1,063 posts since
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    josh1073     Jul 17, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to ghamorra)

    I have said it once i will say it again, a public bata would have shown this. There is so many flaws a bata could have shown before the game was launched but in activision wisdom call of duty dose not need a bata.

    • Aecetym Expert 1,769 posts since
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      Aecetym     Jul 17, 2012 9:46 AM (in response to josh1073)

      Indeed that would fix a lot before releasing it. Now the get abused to a point ppl just quit playing the game cause for every glitch the fix there is another on waiting in line to be abused.

    • ghamorra Master 8,606 posts since
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      ghamorra     Jul 17, 2012 9:56 AM (in response to josh1073)

      Call of Duty doesn't make mistakes, you should know this by now

  • ForestGump Newbie 79 posts since
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    ForestGump     Jul 17, 2012 12:50 PM (in response to ghamorra)

    They are suppose to be making bigger maps.

    http://gamerant.com/black-ops-2-audio-play-styles-mole-159849/

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