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krizaiid Calculating status... 5 posts since
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Team Deathmatch Unlimited

Posted by krizaiid on Jul 3, 2012 6:33 AM

Hello Everybody!

 

What do you guys think of a gametype such as Team Deathmatch Unlimited? By Team Deathmach Unlimited I mean a game mode based on Team Deathmatch where the match doesn't end when it reaches 7500 points. Instead it should be based on a 10 minute timer which would allow Unlimited kills for that amount of time; when the timer runs out the team with the most kills wins the match. This would be awesome because:

 

A) Players who like to play only for the kills can stack up a lot of kills and improve K/DR.

B) Players who like to play objective games to stack up kills would join this game mode instead of Domination, Kill Confirmed, etc.

C) Longer duration to enjoy the match. (Team Deathmatch usually lasts from 4-7 minutes)

 

As I stated before, I think that this would be so awesome because the players who actually like to play the objectives won't have to worry about those who usually join objective game modes just to rack up kills. This game mode will definitely be embraced by those who love to stack up numerous kills. And lastly, it would last longer than the objective game modes and Team Deathmatch itself; a 10 minute timer is a good amount of time for a game to unfold. Team Deathmatch Unlimited would be an awesome playlist. What do you guys think? Suggestions?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

K'

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  • dstr001 Master 4,147 posts since
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    dstr001     Jul 3, 2012 6:36 AM (in response to krizaiid)

    Thats just asking people to boost; an unlimited game where you could kill as much as you wanted? no thanks. Sounds good, but would be exploited far too much.

    • krizaiid Newbie 5 posts since
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      krizaiid     Jul 3, 2012 6:42 AM (in response to dstr001)

      It's such a shame that boosters have destoyed our intellect to embrace new ideas. There will always be boosters no matter the playlist. However I do believe in honest people who would love to play this. We can always report boosters and get them banned for their dishonest behavior.

      • SoVexia Newbie 19 posts since
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        SoVexia     Jul 8, 2012 11:29 AM (in response to krizaiid)

        krizaiid wrote:

         

        It's such a shame that boosters have destoyed our intellect to embrace new ideas. There will always be boosters no matter the playlist. However I do believe in honest people who would love to play this. We can always report boosters and get them banned for their dishonest behavior.

         

        Exactly I would've loved to be able to join a random lobby killing the same people repeatedly with no end xD

  • KBBrooks Newbie 24 posts since
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    KBBrooks     Jul 3, 2012 7:41 AM (in response to krizaiid)

    In my opinion, it wouldn't be needed if they just tweak the stats in the current game modes, hopefully with this iteration. Example: DO NOT track kills for objective based game modes unless the kills pertains to the objective.

    1) Domination= only track kills that are defensive or offensive kills for the flag being fought over. Flag captures are more important. That's the point of the mode.

    2) CTF= only track kills of those holding the flag or who shot the flag carrier. The flag being taken or defended is the point of the mode.

    3) Headquarters= Only track kills offending or defending the HQ.

    ETC., I think you get the picture.

     

    Team deathmatch, FFA, and KC are the only modes where kills should matter and be the focal point.

    If you stop tracking unimportant kills in objective based game modes (including NOT background counting into K/D R), the boosters will slowly disappear and the game will severely improved.

    • krizaiid Newbie 5 posts since
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      krizaiid     Jul 5, 2012 6:41 AM (in response to KBBrooks)

      This is a very good valid argument, however...

      Lets say that Treyarch does implement your ideas to the game, and that kills on Domination, CTF, etc don't count unless those kills are part of the objectives, when the people do leave those objective modes to play TDM they will not be satisfied because as many stated already, TDM finishes too damn quick. Those ideas you gave are good for you and for players who love objective game modes. But what about us, the ones that love to get lots of kills? I won't lie, getting a lot of kills and improving my kdr is one of my most important goals, and the most satisfactory one as well. For us, we want a longer TDM or at least a tweaked TDM to suit our needs. And for those who want to play regular TDM well hopefully Treyarch can leave that one in there so that people who don't want the Unlimited TDM can be happy too. Call of Duty has a great community, each and one of us are very passionate about COD, and we only want to see it improve. I think that we all can be happy, if we get what we want.

  • ghamorra Master 8,745 posts since
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    ghamorra     Jul 3, 2012 9:52 AM (in response to krizaiid)

    I agree TDM needs to last longer. 75kills may seem like a lot on paper, but when divide amongst 5 of my most skilled friends that just means I might get maybe 10-15 kills per match and the game ends in 2-4 minutes. That's not very much fun for me

     

    Objective based game mode however, I can play and get 30-40 kills easily and score many more points playing the objective. So it's kind of pointless to play TDM.

     

    I say raise the kill total to 100 and give more points for kills and let the points grow exponentially when scoring high killstreaks

    • krizaiid Newbie 5 posts since
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      krizaiid     Jul 5, 2012 5:56 AM (in response to ghamorra)

      Could't agree more. In response to other posts though, regular TDM as we know it shouldn't be removed though. Treyarch should keep the regular TDM and incorporate the new TDM Unlimited. It's just a small advice. Hopefully the developers can read this post and apply it to the game. That would be Nice!!

  • ChestSplittah Master 8,845 posts since
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    ChestSplittah     Jul 3, 2012 12:12 PM (in response to krizaiid)

    Booster heaven.

  • Aecetym Expert 1,769 posts since
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    Aecetym     Jul 3, 2012 1:10 PM (in response to krizaiid)

    No other game has as much trouble with boosting as COD, now u wanna help them even more, I'm not even sure if indeed the guys I report do lose there accounts or even a warning.

    • ChestSplittah Master 8,845 posts since
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      ChestSplittah     Jul 3, 2012 1:12 PM (in response to Aecetym)

      I believe that is this guys agenda.

    • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
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      avengedyesterday     Jul 3, 2012 4:48 PM (in response to Aecetym)

      Aecetym wrote:

       

      No other game has as much trouble with boosting as COD, now u wanna help them even more, I'm not even sure if indeed the guys I report do lose there accounts or even a warning.

      What other games has this large of a community? And how many of those games have anything to actually boost for?

       

      Since we want to say this will be booster heaven, boosters use domintion. No kill limit and the game lasts a lot longer than 10 minutes if only one team caps a flag then before the game ends have the other team capture it.

       

      Either way i've always viewed TDM as the rookie game mode but i don't see anything wrong with this game mode.

  • rustyramen1 Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    rustyramen1     Jul 3, 2012 3:35 PM (in response to krizaiid)

    I mean, yeah it would help out alot for those who struggle with their K/D and those who want high scoring games. I would love for this idea to work... I think they just need to not put Tactical Insertions in the game.

    • ChestSplittah Master 8,845 posts since
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      ChestSplittah     Jul 3, 2012 3:39 PM (in response to rustyramen1)

      You want to play a high scoring TDM? GW. There isn't any need to make the games ridiculously long so people that are far less fortunate then I and others to pump stats to make themselves look better than they are. What do you think this would do for people that ravage the competition already as if they were a village of virgin soldiers?

      • elijahgerard24legend Novice 245 posts since
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        elijahgerard24legend     Jul 3, 2012 4:47 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

        i think it would be a decent game mode i mean at least its not the entire point of the game if you dont like the game mode just go play another mode

      • ghamorra Master 8,745 posts since
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        ghamorra     Jul 3, 2012 11:12 PM (in response to ChestSplittah)

        I still think TDM is too short. Like I said above, if I play with a decent group of friends I might get the top score with only 15 or so kills and the match ends in just a couple minutes

      • krizaiid Newbie 5 posts since
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        krizaiid     Jul 5, 2012 6:37 AM (in response to ChestSplittah)

        I am sorry you feel that way. I think 10 minutes is not ridiculously long.

        I know what you mean about people less fortunate than you. But, don't underestimate N00bs. Those players play and they play well. They know their tactics. They are the ones that use rpg, tactical insertion, and noob tubes. If the game mode is created I doubt that they will join this type of game mode. They will know better.

        This is COD, we cannot make it easy for nobody. If they don't want to get killed a lot, then they should play something else. COD is a tough game online and it is not for everyone. Think of it as "The Survival of the Fittest"  If you can't adapt, you will not survive. As simple as that!!

        • ghamorra Master 8,745 posts since
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          ghamorra     Jul 6, 2012 9:22 AM (in response to krizaiid)

          krizaiid wrote:

           

          Think of it as "The Survival of the Fittest"  If you can't adapt, you will not survive. As simple as that!!

           

          There are 4million people who have not gotten this memo. I've been in TDM where splitscreeners do nothing but dick around and could give two sh*ts less about the win. They're perfectly content with knowing they lost their team the match because they played a whole game without getting a single kill and giving the enemy 50 kills

  • robbierocket Master 3,521 posts since
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    robbierocket     Jul 4, 2012 2:33 PM (in response to krizaiid)

    TDM is very well vala ved as it is, plus as the favourite form of match needs to be relatively low-commitment, in terms of time. Relatively, I say.

     

    I too, enjoy the idea of a lengthier match, but that actually works when several matches are protracted in a cummulative way, hence a drawn out sequence of skirmishes.

     

    Furthermore, TDM is balanced as it is, who can predict the knock-on effects that could lead to huge changes in the game format.

     

    In light of the comments I feel it's worth mentioning that gaming style is a big factor in game length, so clanning up with kill-boys will often result in low personal kills. This is where TDM should be adjusted - the objective rewards. Win is the objective, not personal kills. Team kills over team deaths. So who cares if one of you is sucking bullets for the team or even ending with 5 assists but no kills, when you've spotted for your team, brought down enemy air support for your team and heller your team win 20 in a row.

     

    TDM should be about kills minus deaths, not kills or even personal k/d, bonus XP should be given in large amounts for team play such as assists, buzz kills, enemy items destroyed, and of course the win. Even the end game standings should be ordered by kills minus deaths and not kills.

     

    If my team play well, we usually have 1 or 2 on high kills minus deaths, but it's rarely the same people each time - unless we want to let one go on fire and rack them up, usually getting a great run but simultaneously allowing the rest of us to go on a great run of ZERO deaths, which is equally important and never hets mentioned

    • robbierocket Master 3,521 posts since
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      robbierocket     Jul 4, 2012 2:40 PM (in response to robbierocket)

      (iPad issue, sorry). ....anyway, that never gets mentioned but TDM is not free for all and without this significance (of deaths being as vital as kills) would be free for all.

       

      Finally, games over in 2 mins, not often. That may concern the poor mapsize MW3 gave us but in Treyarch's games it is longer. The fastest TDM's Are clans on Nuketown and that's 4 mins. Some games can go the distance. Try not to die - as a team and see what happens then.

      • ChestSplittah Master 8,845 posts since
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        ChestSplittah     Jul 4, 2012 3:17 PM (in response to robbierocket)

        Well at least it is well composed and abridged. Also what to be taken into consideration is the amount of KS this would enable to be in play. Which could ultimately result in huge amounts of lag.

      • ghamorra Master 8,745 posts since
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        ghamorra     Jul 5, 2012 12:03 AM (in response to robbierocket)

        Gotcha from MW3 forum can end a match just a couple minutes with his clan. When I ran with him for a couple matches it was the most ridiculous thing I'd ever seen. They're all super high ranked in TDM and there's a reason for it. The all have 2+ K/Ds and all run Recon. It's a total blood bath for the other team and the matches just aren't long enough when you have players like that

  • poklane Expert 812 posts since
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    poklane     Jul 5, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to krizaiid)

    This is how all modes should be that have a score-limit currently. Treyarch, remove the score caps on every mode and just put a 10 minute time limit on them plz (Domination).

  • ChestSplittah Master 8,845 posts since
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    ChestSplittah     Jul 6, 2012 1:59 AM (in response to krizaiid)

    This would cause some more complaints about camping for KD.

  • robbierocket Master 3,521 posts since
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    robbierocket     Jul 6, 2012 12:29 PM (in response to krizaiid)

    Keep the time and team kills limit the same. Private matches can be played for all kinds of changes there.

     

    I sincerely believe a change here will upset something that works and that the devs know this.

     

    What should happen though is a better understanding and representation of TDM's objectives. There's one. It is (as a team) to Get to 75 kills first - or have the most after 10 mins.

     

    Fine, perfect. However, change these perifery elements.

    - order Final Match Standings within teams by KILLS MINUS DEATHS

    - positive KILLS MINUS DEATHS should be in green, negative in red

    - assists give same XP as kills (though no effect on team result)

    - increased XP for buzz kills and other "team useful" kills (no team effect)

    - increased XP for destroying enemy killstreak rewards (no team effect)

    - bonus XP for biggest KILLS MINUS DEATHS or over +5

    - bonus XP for 12 or less deaths (average needed to win TDM)

     

    There is already a big reward for many kills - and that's fine, people should not lose those points for each death (eventhough that's how the team score egge ti Roy works right now), but players should develop or earn XP more by playing TDM in the way that wins it, the objectives, outlined above.

     

    Don't the majority realise that a player on 25-28 kills-deaths is as helpful/unhelpful as someone on 0-3, yet the former wil be at the top of the charts and with bags of XP yet the latter will be at the bottom with no XP - even if they helped their team with spotting, alerting and giving very little to the opposition.

    • ghamorra Master 8,745 posts since
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      ghamorra     Jul 8, 2012 11:51 AM (in response to robbierocket)

      TDM is the most popular game. So There are sometimes, millions playing. I think that out of those millions the ones that stand out the most should be rewarded with extra XP

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