Jun 7, 2012 11:57 AM
3 bars vs 4 bars connections
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Ive really been struggling since the matchmaking fix. My guess is because the people I play with live almost exactly 1000 miles away from me and host. With the new matchmaking we play all of our games on Tampa servers now. I never have a 4 bar connection anymore and the lag is horrible. We discuss the bars in game and they say they see I have 4 bars when I clearly have 3. So Im wondering if the bars arent a reading of how Im connected to the host, but rather it measures the connection i have to each individual in the room. Anyone know? Why else would we see different bars for me at the same time?
I've had the exact same problem, looking forward to a good answer...
Count me in as one of those looking for an answer. i can no longer play good connection games with my clan mates because the lag that it has created since the last patch. Playing with the few on the west coast is marginal but when the guys from Canada join it goes to hell.
It's carma paying you back. How many times have you told people it's any issue with their connections rather than accept an issue with the game exist?
Well I dont know what carma is professor, but Ive never said there isnt a problem. Or are you generalizing me with some % of the population you have a problem with. Mindless really
I think you guys are missing the question. Correct me if i'm wrong here Cowboy, but it's not "why do I lag"...it's about why when I see three bars, my team is seeing me as having four bars at the same time. I've encountered that, too, which begs the question...what are those bars really measuring.
Yes,this is what Im trying to understand,thank you
*karma
I agree. It seems to be a "top participant" disorder. Unless they have the issue personally, it doesn't exist. Glad to see he's having issues too now. Karma fursure. For ME personally since its release..bad connection 50% of the time, unplayable 5% & Ok for the remainder. The only time bars meant anything to me, when I had one orange bar which was the 5%.
Ita a funny old thing ..this connection and lag stuff, normally when playing gamers from within my own country, UK , my connection is fine, very rarely do i get less then 5 bars, and most games seem evenly matched, however as soon as someone from across the channel,(europe) my bars seem to remain the same yet those players with less bars always seem to have the upper hand,if playing late in the evenings when most Americans and Canadians appear my bars go down to 2,at that point i give up as having less bars dont help me at all ,
5 bars. I thought there were only 4 max. I really must be laggin. What color comes after Dark Green?
sorry i meant 4, to quick on the keyboard, lol
Phew.... I was on the phone with comcast yelling at them....hung up after your correction.
I thought it was just me. I was having some really good games until the update. Lately I'm just doing absolutely horrible and I never end up on a 4 bar.
If I dont play with my friends in Tampa, Im fine for the most part. Unfortunately the majority of people I play with are down there. I have to befriend them now. Feels like IW just head on collided with a bus load of my BFFs.
I've have complained about the difference between a 3 and 4 bar connection for months now. Its brutal playing on a 3 bar connection. I play with people all over the US and some in Canada. Most are in the northeast with me but some are in Florida, Texas, and the westcoast. If any of the guys on the westcoast pull host I complain all night long because I cant kill anyone.
This is the reason I always try to be party leader. When I am party leader i pull host 99% of the time. The game plays fine when I am host or anyone that I have a 4 bar connection to. I have a well above average internet connection.
That is why I gets pissed off when I see all the threads about lag comp and host disadvantage on the forums. Face the facts. A 3 bar connection doesnt mean you are god with lag comp on your side. The connections in general are messed up in this game.
I am pretty sure the bars are your connection to the host.
I don't know about you guys but I find 3 bar matches more playable compared to when I'm hosting.
Honestly, I wish I didn't have to tweak my connection to avoid hosting matches.
vims people like you tweaking your sh!t acctually ADDS to the hotfix problems,
Sigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh its so broken.
Agreed, I see people on here calling turtle beach users cheaters, and that's absolutely absurd. You, on the other hand, are the genuine article. Idiot.
@DRKillinit as well. Why should we be penalized because IW can figure their coding out? I do the same thing, no sense in hosting if Im going to be penalized for it, and IW cant tell me how to set up my home internet connection, which isnt cheating FYI. It just makes my very good internet appear to be the same as everyone elses craptastic internet.
Because the community experiences struggles with lag, not just you. So, it's at least some semblance of equal, albeit in a negative way. When you doctor your connection to ensure you never get host, you give yourself an advantage over the community at large, which is exploiting, or cheating.
How is it cheating to use QoS on my router to lower my upload speed to a level like the rest of the masses that play MW3? If anything this SHOULD be the opposite of cheating, since Im making my connection more like everyone elses, not doctoring it to be different in some way...
It's not worth arguing over. I'm onto the next one. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Not worth arguing because you know you're WRONG. Thanks for playing.
True.
By the way, is your GT same as your handle on here? If so, those are some interesting stats....looks like connection doctoring isn't the only exploiting you're doing.
lol sure is.
Yea, that's embarrassing for you. Let's hope nobody gets fooled into thinking you have legitimate opinions on here.
Check again. Also, what are you thinking is cheating exactly? Im curious, as all the little kiddies always cry cheater when I spank them, but again, that just garbage like your little rant here because you were wrong, and oh how sweet will it be when you look doubly stupid.
Honch where'd ya go buddy? Still waiting to find out what sort of nefarious things Ive been up to...Or maybe it was the Gremlins. Shouldnt have fed them past midnight. That was a mistake. They were gaming all night.
Whats that supposed to mean?
I have no clue what he means, but I submit my Elite page to the forums for scrutiny. You wont find anything, other than jumping into and out of tons of games trying to find a decent one with little lag, which last time I checked wasnt cheating...
https://elite.callofduty.com/career/xbox/54d10030cc86b1b970d371286f71163c#/playe rcardmw3
I see nothing foul except that you stopped prestiging at 10 ![]()
i have quite a few games like this where i play for a few and decide to cut bait on the bad connection.
Its bad for me and my team if all I am doing is collecting deaths and taking up a slot. So i choose to bail out to a new lobby if its clearly unplayable.
I dont see the point in playing matches with bad connections if I can find a lobby where Im the one getting the lag comp rather than someone else. Or at least find a lobby with somewhat fair connections for everyone. No point in getting fussed over a bad lobby when you can always leave.
Hold on Honch, keep pesting him the more you continue he gives more hints lol. ok I got QoS, and now what else do you do lol. Let me stop
After the last patch, I was having great games going solo being a 4 bar in every game. When I'd team up then the lag would increase and I'd drop down a bar or two even though my friends are all local. About a week passed and now it's switched. I won't even bother to play going solo anymore because it's too frustrating.
But this is all after the last patch. So I don't get how it can change unless something is being done on IW's end which wouldn't surprise me. And it's almost always a turn for the worst.
Oh, and I almost forgot why I came in here in the first place. Cowboy have you tried leading the party vs having one of your distant friends being party leader? Even though its not supposed to work like that for matchmaking, my group (who are pretty spread out, even further than yours) has found that some peoples internet route traffic cross country better than others. So it makes it kinda sorta playable for everyone.
When Im hosting, now they rage.
Lol. Well, thats about par for the course for this game eh?
Thread should have read" Infinity Ward ruins friendships".
Ha yep. Lord knows I dont play MW3 with over half of my FL anymore because the connections suck.
Yep so my boys in Tamps hosted last night and I was a full second behind what I was seeing on my screen again. So I left them and went solo and destroyed.
Its official- you can not play with friends anymore.
Did you ever consider that your FL "friends" are lag switching you because.... because... they are jealous of your MW3 awesomness and can no longer take being so outclassed?
yeah,,, that's it.
I hadnt considered that.. but theyre not bright enough to know how to obtain a lag switch. I said Florida didnt I?
They are partially constructed from hanging chads, geritol and manatee livers so at least they have some of the raw materials lying around.
Now that you mention it, i have been 3 barred a tiny bit more than usual lately. Not really a big deal. But also, take into account (unless this happens almost every game) that maybe a good amount of people in that lobby are on the computer listening to music, facebookin it, lookin at p*rn, or on some device that uses the internet. I know that has to affect the flow of service somehow, though.
cant play atall anymore, absolute disgrace, i cant get above a 2 bar connection most of the time, lets hope that black ops 2 wont be as bad!
skullcandycrushers wrote:
cant play atall anymore, absolute disgrace, i cant get above a 2 bar connection most of the time, lets hope that black ops 2 wont be as bad!
First, its an OLD thread.
Second if you are getting 2 bars then that is your connection to the host.
Black Ops 2 is not going to make your connection to THOSE hosts any better.
starbuckfrack wrote:
skullcandycrushers wrote:
cant play atall anymore, absolute disgrace, i cant get above a 2 bar connection most of the time, lets hope that black ops 2 wont be as bad!
First, its an OLD thread.
Second if you are getting 2 bars then that is your connection to the host.
Black Ops 2 is not going to make your connection to THOSE hosts any better.
Truth.