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danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
Oct 6, 2011

They better not nerf Drop shotting in Black ops 2.

Posted by danielbondnz on May 11, 2012 4:54 AM

First off, I know people hate drop shotters. But Ill list reasons why they should not nerf it in Black ops 2.

 

1. Its a genuine skill, mastered over time.

2. TBH nine times out of ten when I drop shot somone I probaly would have killed them better if I hadnt drop shotted. I dont really think drop shotting benefits the user all that ofetn.

3. Drop shotting dose save you on the odd ocassion, id say once a game, but The ability to knife with the stick probaly would have saved you twice a game. So its 6 of one half a duz of the other.

4. They need to show loyalty to the people who buy this game year after year who have put time and effort into learning how to drop shot.

 

TBH I only really play on tactical because drop shotting is fun, I constantly feel I could have won an encounter if only I could have knifed them, although I am actually quite good at B button knifing.

 

 

Please consider these points before hating on drop shotting.

 

I just really hope its not as bad as Drop shotting in Black ops one.

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  • kastro187420 Master 5,921 posts since
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    kastro187420     May 11, 2012 5:07 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Drop Shooting is an exploit IMO. Nothing more. You exploit the aiming mechanics of the game for easy kills. Here's what I want to see happen:

     

    Anytime you transition to and from Prone, your gun stops firing. Problem solved.

    • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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      danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 5:36 AM (in response to kastro187420)

      Well then you must also be in favour of it taking 3 times longer to knife somone to while the guy puts away his gun and pulls a knife out from his pocket????

       

      Knifers who hate on drop shotters are so hypocritical.

      • kastro187420 Master 5,921 posts since
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        kastro187420     May 11, 2012 6:03 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

        danielbondnz wrote:

         

        Well then you must also be in favour of it taking 3 times longer to knife somone to while the guy puts away his gun and pulls a knife out from his pocket????

         

        Knifers who hate on drop shotters are so hypocritical.

         

        Actually, I've also been in favor of fixing the knifing system so that Panic Knifing no longer happens. Instead of simply running up and hitting the right joystick in for a free kill, I've suggested that if you knife from the front, it takes 2 knifes to kill, where as if you can knife from the back, it only takes one.

         

        What I'm in favor of, is people learning real skill as opposed to exploiting as many areas of the game as possible for easy kills. Instead of drop shotting, utilize cover. Instead of "Quick-Scoping", pull a secondary weapon.

         

        Things that actually make people better is what I'm in favor of. Not exploits in which people think they're good because they practiced them. Hey, I practiced Elevators and got really good at them. Does that mean I should be allowed to use them? I mean afterall, most people would tell you they're really hard to do consistently.

         

        There's a difference between Skill, and Exploits. A skilled player will use cover. A player who exploits will... not use cover, but utilize broken mechanics.

        • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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          danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 8:08 AM (in response to kastro187420)

          Baha you should go play Battlefield 3 if you want that kind of realism.

           

          Your ideas would just piss 90% of the community.

           

          Knifing or drop shots are not the opposite to ''taking cover'' you idiot. They are both tactics to win CQC in the arcade shooter that is CoD.

           

          Id say by the sounds of it your ''skill'' is so low you are clearly troubled by both drop shotters and knifers.

          • mahgunsgopewpew Novice 230 posts since
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            mahgunsgopewpew     May 11, 2012 10:04 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

            Agreed. Drop shotting is a legitimate tactic used to win gun fights. It's easy to counter.

             

            So kastro, do you think that I shouldn't be allowed to strafe or jump while shooting an enemy either?

          • Pyric Apprentice 864 posts since
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            Pyric     May 14, 2012 10:52 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

            Drop shotting and knifing don't really take much more skill than anything else, but I don't have anything against them either. There is nothing wrong with using certain game mechanics to your advantage to avoid being killed (or just because you like it).

        • danielobrien123456 Newbie 58 posts since
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          danielobrien123456     May 11, 2012 12:05 PM (in response to kastro187420)

          i lost total respect for you when you said quickscoping is bad!

    • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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      danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 5:39 AM (in response to kastro187420)

      kastro187420 wrote:

       

      Drop Shooting is an exploit IMO. Nothing more. You exploit the aiming mechanics of the game for easy kills. Here's what I want to see happen:

       

      Anytime you transition to and from Prone, your gun stops firing. Problem solved.

      Knifing is an exploit too.

      • dstr001 Master 4,147 posts since
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        dstr001     May 11, 2012 8:28 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

        ,,, knifing is an actual mechanic within the game, drop shotting involves using a completely different mechanic (going prone) in order to gain an advantage over a firefight, drop shotting isn't a mechanic in itself, it abuses another mechanic to do it (like quickscoping)

    • rankismet Master 10,992 posts since
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      rankismet     May 11, 2012 10:25 AM (in response to kastro187420)

      kastro187420 wrote:

       

      Drop Shooting is an exploit IMO. Nothing more. You exploit the aiming mechanics of the game for easy kills. Here's what I want to see happen:

       

      Anytime you transition to and from Prone, your gun stops firing. Problem solved.

       

      Agreed.

      • iidarkshadowoo Master 16,588 posts since
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        iidarkshadowoo     May 11, 2012 12:47 PM (in response to rankismet)

        Well I don't know if it's a "skill" that can be "mastered," but I couldn't really think of how they could nerf it. If they did do something, I feel it would be worse in the end for the majority of people because it might affect how we can go to prone in general.

  • dstr001 Master 4,147 posts since
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    dstr001     May 11, 2012 8:28 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Riiiight; so pressing a button and spraying at the same time is considered skill now too? IMO the should just get rid of going prone altogether.

    • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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      danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 5:37 AM (in response to dstr001)

      dstr001 wrote:

       

      Riiiight; so pressing a button and spraying at the same time is considered skill now too? IMO the should just get rid of going prone altogether.

       

      You lot are just as bad as the trickshotting morons who think that is skill too, but I'm guessing you do that aswell don't you?

      Do you want them to get rid of any skill tactic that causes crap players to die to?

      • quikwolf Newbie 51 posts since
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        quikwolf     May 11, 2012 6:21 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

        This. It's not hard to kill a drop shotter in my opinion. It's a tactic and I wonder why it's called a "Tactical Layout" then?

  • jeepchick CallofDutyModerator 2,385 posts since
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    jeepchick     May 11, 2012 6:39 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Question: Does the "dolphin dive" make drop shotting harder? I don't DS (RunNGunner is my style), but I'd think that you'd accidentally dive pretty often.

    • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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      danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 8:10 AM (in response to jeepchick)

      jeepchick wrote:

       

      Question: Does the "dolphin dive" make drop shotting harder? I don't DS (RunNGunner is my style), but I'd think that you'd accidentally dive pretty often.

      Certainly is annoying part of Black ops.

  • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
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    avengedyesterday     May 11, 2012 8:19 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

    If you can't shoot while dolphin diving then you shouldn't be able to shoot while dropping to prone.

     

    Either way, drop shot's takes about as much skill as panic knifing. I love how every single person in Mw3 drop shot pretty much every person they saw.

     

    You give up being able to move, just to lay on the ground and make yourself a 'smaller target' even tho there is a pretty long animation of you dropping to the ground, and that small target happens to be your head.There are only a few situations where drop shots actually gives you an advantage. Other than that it just makes you look like a idiot when you use it at all the wrong times, but you saw someone do it in a youtube video so it makes you pro.

     

    It's just like jumping around corners..... You do realise you do not jump high... at all ... nor far. The only time it gives you an advantage is when you are extremely close to someone, or someone is trying to derpshot you.

     

    Personally I don't care about drop shotting. It never makes me feel like i'm at a disadvantage but I do have good aim. 90% of the time people dropping to prone just gives me a free and easy head shot.

  • dstr001 Master 4,147 posts since
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    dstr001     May 11, 2012 8:24 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Let me say something; the very fact that Treyarch wants to nerf drop shotting should tell you that there is something wrong with it; same with quickscoping (don't give me the "IW didn't nerf it" crap; they don't care about balance)

     

    You shouldn't have to use such a "tactic" (I use that term lightly) to get kills; play normally like the rest of us and stop depending on glitch mechanics to get kills.

     

    I hope the dolphin dive returns; not just because I enjoyed using it; but because it also makes drop shotting harder for you "pros" (again, used lightly)

     

    Oh, and BTW; the tactical layout isn't made just for dropshotting you know; it was supposed to give people with disabilites an easier time with the controls.

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    gr3g1     May 11, 2012 10:14 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

    I am a drop shotter because I click that ******* stick in accidentlly when in CQC. 

     

    I would say I have "skillfully" drop shotted maybe 10 times ever.

     

    Opinion from a drop shotter?  Go ahead and nerf it...it'll make me learn to control my analog sticks better.

  • Wozny Apprentice 342 posts since
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    Wozny     May 11, 2012 12:41 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    All I know is that I love Dolphin Diving

  • c4rl Apprentice 198 posts since
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    c4rl     May 11, 2012 2:15 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    I like it and I use it but I didn't mind that it wasn't as useful in B.O. I think I will notice even less if the rumors about knifing in BO2 are true.

    • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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      danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 3:34 PM (in response to c4rl)

      Well Ill tell you why they wont get rid of drop shotting.

       

      BEACAUSE 90% OF PLAYERS THAT ARE GOOD DROP SHOT.

       

      And the reason they are good is becasue they pay MONEY for it year after year, And the only thing Activision care about is MONEY.

       

      Thats why you will have to put up with it until you stop playing CoD.

      • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
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        avengedyesterday     May 11, 2012 4:02 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

        danielbondnz wrote:

         

        Well Ill tell you why they wont get rid of drop shotting.

         

        BEACAUSE 90% OF PLAYERS THAT ARE GOOD DROP SHOT.

         

        And the reason they are good is becasue they pay MONEY for it year after year, And the only thing Activision care about is MONEY.

         

        Thats why you will have to put up with it until you stop playing CoD.

        80% of those 90% aren't actually good.

      • kastro187420 Master 5,921 posts since
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        kastro187420     May 11, 2012 4:59 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

        danielbondnz wrote:

         

        Well Ill tell you why they wont get rid of drop shotting.

         

        BEACAUSE 90% OF PLAYERS THAT ARE GOOD DROP SHOT.

         

        And the reason they are good is becasue they pay MONEY for it year after year, And the only thing Activision care about is MONEY.

         

        Thats why you will have to put up with it until you stop playing CoD.

         

        You clearly don't know Treyarch too well. They aren't like IW where they're too scared to push things in a different direction.

         

        Good players don't drop shot. Players who need cheap advantages drop shot. Good players don't need to exploit the system in order to get a kill. 90% of good players don't drop shot. Not sure where you pulled that weird figure from.

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          danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 5:27 PM (in response to kastro187420)

             ''Good players don't drop shot. Players who need cheap advantages drop shot. Good players don't need to      exploit the system in order to get a kill. 90% of good players don't drop shot. Not sure where you pulled that   weird figure from''

           

           

           

          Thats bulls, I dont ''need'' to drop shot to do well. I used to play on default and was well above average knifer, and when I was trying hard I could maintain a k/d of near 3.0 in the weeklies. And even now on tactical I still knife people with the B button all the time.

           

          And I think youll find if you go look at the big name youtube commentators, nearly all play on tactical button lay out.

           

          Its in the game, and if you choose not to use it thats up to you, I constantly defend panic knifing in threads devoted to having knifing nerfed, because I am not bias and dont demand the opposite tactics to mine be nerfed.

           

          If they end up nerfing drop shotting further I can just switch back to default, cause it only takes 10 minutes to master.

          • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
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            avengedyesterday     May 11, 2012 7:30 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

            danielbondnz wrote:

             

               ''Good players don't drop shot. Players who need cheap advantages drop shot. Good players don't need to      exploit the system in order to get a kill. 90% of good players don't drop shot. Not sure where you pulled that   weird figure from''

             

             

             

            Thats bulls, I dont ''need'' to drop shot to do well. I used to play on default and was well above average knifer, and when I was trying hard I could maintain a k/d of near 3.0 in the weeklies. And even now on tactical I still knife people with the B button all the time.

             

            And I think youll find if you go look at the big name youtube commentators, nearly all play on tactical button lay out.

             

            Its in the game, and if you choose not to use it thats up to you, I constantly defend panic knifing in threads devoted to having knifing nerfed, because I am not bias and dont demand the opposite tactics to mine be nerfed.

             

            If they end up nerfing drop shotting further I can just switch back to default, cause it only takes 10 minutes to master.

            I do agree with what you are saying, do what works for you. I'm not against drop shoting, it doesn't bother me and i really dont view it as an exploit. Dropshoting only gives you an advantage on rare occasions. Giving up your movement is not a smart move in most situations.

             

            Another thing is look a little closer on those youtube commentators and streamers who use drop shot the most. They have great kd's but the majority of them have terrible W/L ratios because they back out of any game where they can't dominate.

            • danielbondnz Apprentice 432 posts since
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              danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 8:30 PM (in response to avengedyesterday)

              avengedyesterday wrote:

               

              I do agree with what you are saying, do what works for you. I'm not against drop shoting, it doesn't bother me and i really dont view it as an exploit. Dropshoting only gives you an advantage on rare occasions. Giving up your movement is not a smart move in most situations.

               

              Another thing is look a little closer on those youtube commentators and streamers who use drop shot the most. They have great kd's but the majority of them have terrible W/L ratios because they back out of any game where they can't dominate.

              Yes exactly what im trying to say , Drop shotting isnt even an advantage over non drop shotters.

              Half the time when some one is drop shotted, they rage and hate on drop shotters, but in reality it wasnt the drop shot that killed them, they would have been beaten anyway.

               

              I only drop shot beacase its fun, I constantly think Id be better of be able to accidently knife anyone that runs past me just be getting nervous and gripping my controller tighter.lol

              • kastro187420 Master 5,921 posts since
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                kastro187420     May 11, 2012 8:02 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

                danielbondnz wrote:

                avengedyesterday wrote:

                 

                I do agree with what you are saying, do what works for you. I'm not against drop shoting, it doesn't bother me and i really dont view it as an exploit. Dropshoting only gives you an advantage on rare occasions. Giving up your movement is not a smart move in most situations.

                 

                Another thing is look a little closer on those youtube commentators and streamers who use drop shot the most. They have great kd's but the majority of them have terrible W/L ratios because they back out of any game where they can't dominate.

                Yes exactly what im trying to say to these morons, Drop shotting isnt even an advantage over non drop shotters.

                Half the time when some one is drop shotted, they rage and hate on drop shotters, but in reality it wasnt the drop shot that killed them, they would have been beaten anyway.

                 

                I only drop shot beacase its fun, I constantly think Id be better of be able to accidently knife anyone that runs past me just be getting nervous and gripping my controller tighter.lol

                 

                Doesn't that kind of say something about your level of "skill" though, where you feel as if you have to either Drop Shot, or Panic Knife to consider yourself a good player? Wouldn't you rather be able to say that you were simply a better player who doesn't need exploits to win?

                 

                I think it's funny how reliant people get on the drop shot. They do it so much and so often, that they even drop shot teammates and drop-shot people from behind because they're scared of the encounter. It's comical in a way.

                 

                It almost reminds me of those players who complain about Assassin because it stops them from Pac-Manning the Radar. The game doesn't show them the position of every enemy, so they don't think it's fair that they have to utilize their own skill to find them.

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                  danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 8:19 PM (in response to kastro187420)

                  kastro187420 wrote:

                   

                   

                    Doesn't that kind of say something about your level of "skill" though, where you feel as if you have to either Drop Shot, or Panic Knife to consider yourself a    good player? Wouldn't you rather be able to say that you were simply a better player who doesn't need exploits to win?

                   

                    I think it's funny how reliant people get on the drop shot. They do it so much and so often, that they even drop shot teammates and drop-shot people from    behind because they're scared of the encounter. It's comical in a way.

                   

                    It almost reminds me of those players who complain about Assassin because it stops them from Pac-Manning the Radar. The game doesn't show them the    position of every enemy, so they don't think it's fair that they have to utilize their own skill to find them.

                   

                   

                   

                  No it sais nothing of my skill level. I mainly play FFA and out of 30 kills about 3 of them are drop shots. The other 27 are normal standing up shooting, out playing people.

                   

                  Your just a troll, cause you maybe an average player that gets mad at anyone thats more advanced than you in some way or another, whether is be knifing, drop shotting, or any other game tactic.

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                    kastro187420     May 11, 2012 8:30 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

                    danielbondnz wrote:

                    No it sais nothing of my skill level. I mainly play FFA and out of 30 kills about 3 of them are drop shots. The other 27 are normal standing up shooting, out playing people.

                     

                    Your just a troll, cause you maybe an average player that gets mad at anyone thats more advanced than you in some way or another, whether is be knifing, drop shotting, or any other game tactic.

                     

                    *You're

                     

                    I have no problem with people who are better than me. The problem is when people confuse "being good" with "learning to exploit". Those players aren't better, they simply believe themselves to be better. I could just as easily join the ranks of "Drop Shotters".. But I'd rather not rely on exploits to get better.

                     

                    Instead of getting better however, drop shotters prefer to simply continue exploiting issues in the game. Imagine how much better players would be if they didn't rely on exploits or the strongest weapons in the game.

                     

                    Instead, they take every cheap advantage they can to make up for a lack of ability.

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    Vic27     May 11, 2012 5:52 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    they better not do something you dont want them to do..or..else...what? You wont buy it? Who cares, the entire forum community could not buy Black Ops 2 and it will still sell 20 million copies. I expect to see some kind of nerf to drop shotting, not that its useful in HC.

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      danielbondnz     May 11, 2012 5:57 PM (in response to Vic27)

      Vic27 wrote:

       

      they better not do something you dont want them to do..or..else...what? You wont buy it? Who cares, the entire forum community could not buy Black Ops 2 and it will still sell 20 million copies. I expect to see some kind of nerf to drop shotting, not that its useful in HC.

      The forum community isnt much, but there a whole lot more people that play on tactical out there than whats on this forum.

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        kastro187420     May 11, 2012 6:13 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

        danielbondnz wrote:

         

        Vic27 wrote:

         

        they better not do something you dont want them to do..or..else...what? You wont buy it? Who cares, the entire forum community could not buy Black Ops 2 and it will still sell 20 million copies. I expect to see some kind of nerf to drop shotting, not that its useful in HC.

        The forum community isnt much, but there a whole lot more people that play on tactical out there than whats on this forum.

         

        Well, I had a nice reply typed up, but apparently this PoS forum software things what I'm trying to post isn't allowed. So we'll just stick with this:

         

        Playing on Tactical isn't the issue. The issue is people exploiting drop shotting, and then pretending they're actually good for utilizing a broken "feature" in the game.

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        Vic27     May 11, 2012 6:39 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

        ok?

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    AngryCrusader     May 11, 2012 8:09 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    i like dropshotting. people shuoldnt attack dropshotting. we should attack quikscoping babies

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    tsttyler     May 11, 2012 8:11 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Just aim for teh feet

  • jeepchick CallofDutyModerator 2,385 posts since
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    jeepchick     May 11, 2012 8:31 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Haye everyone -

     

    Let's stay civil. More discussion. Less namecalling. You can make your points without stooping to personal attacks.

     

    Thanks - ClaireJeepChick

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    avengedyesterday     May 11, 2012 10:10 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    More times then not both drop shot's and panic knifing are used as scape goats to why people die. I never really understood the term panic knifing anyways. You train yourself to knife someone at close range just like you aim and fire someone who runs out in front of you. It's part of the game and if it's in it i'm going to use it. You run out in melee range of me, i'm going to knife you. For one it saves me ammo and second it doesn't alert the other team that i'm right there.

     

    Just like people rage on campers, more times then not it's just a scape goat for why they got owned in that situation. People just rage so much now of days and everyone assumes they are just masteres of call of duty and that no one else could possibly compete with them, if someone does it's because they *panic knifed, drop shot, camped, used a grenade, noob tubed, used an aim bot, hackers, bannanas in pajamas, narwhal baconing, northern lights" and so on.

    • esmorgue Master 6,606 posts since
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      esmorgue     May 14, 2012 12:20 PM (in response to avengedyesterday)

      Silly avenged spoke on the "banana in pajamas" glitch...

       

      You Sir know the rules.... Go directly to OT for 1 day... No Slack Shall Be Cut!

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    r8edtripx     May 11, 2012 10:19 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    danielbondnz wrote:

     

    I just really hope its not as bad as Drop shotting in Black ops one.

    What do you mean, it's not as bad as drop shotting in Black Ops?

     

     

    I say leave "drop shotting" and "knifing" exactly the way it is in Black Ops.

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    vims1990     May 11, 2012 10:45 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    I do use the tactical layout but it's not really just for dropshotting, I've been using it more for getting into cover faster by using my thumbstick.

     

    Both "dropshotting" & "panic knifing" has it's advantages & disadvantages.

    Each "tactic" is considered cheap within both sides of the community.

     

    I don't have problems with dropshotters, I don't have problems with panic knifers.

    And I don't consider dropshotting a skill, it's more of a tactic.

     

    Dropshotting will assist you in winning close gunfights

    Panic Knifing will give you a faster reaction to winning CQC with a knife.

     

    If someone beats me in CQC with a knife, it's my fault & I don't complain....I'm using a button layout not setup for faster knifing. Personally, I don't mind if Treyarch brings back the dolphin dive or another mechanic to prevent dropshotting, I'll still use the tactical layout. Since MW2, I've been more comfortable in using the tactical layout.

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      avengedyesterday     May 14, 2012 11:10 AM (in response to vims1990)

      vims1990 wrote:

       

      I do use the tactical layout but it's not really just for dropshotting, I've been using it more for getting into cover faster by using my thumbstick.

       

      Both "dropshotting" & "panic knifing" has it's advantages & disadvantages.

      Each "tactic" is considered cheap within both sides of the community.

       

      I don't have problems with dropshotters, I don't have problems with panic knifers.

      And I don't consider dropshotting a skill, it's more of a tactic.

       

      Dropshotting will assist you in winning close gunfights

      Panic Knifing will give you a faster reaction to winning CQC with a knife.

       

      If someone beats me in CQC with a knife, it's my fault & I don't complain....I'm using a button layout not setup for faster knifing. Personally, I don't mind if Treyarch brings back the dolphin dive or another mechanic to prevent dropshotting, I'll still use the tactical layout. Since MW2, I've been more comfortable in using the tactical layout.

      Very true.

       

      With most of the community, anything that you do that results in them dying, is cheap.

  • ghosthound Master 13,215 posts since
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    ghosthound     May 11, 2012 11:19 PM (in response to danielbondnz)

    I thought the 'dolphin dive' was an interesting addition to Black Ops. It didn't eliminate drop-shotting, but it made it require greater skill to use the exploit.

     

    I think for BO2 a knee slide should also be added.

  • TeamKillerMAC Apprentice 305 posts since
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    TeamKillerMAC     May 13, 2012 10:53 AM (in response to danielbondnz)

    Yeah..pressing the B button twice really is skill.

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