Its basically the run n gun red dot chasers that are always mad about it. Either adapt or keep dying.

   I'm sure the devs suggesting they would do such a thing would make a lot of people happy ........ but once they did it they wouldnt be happy anymore, they would just find some other way it needs nerfed.

    Personally, I wouldnt have an issue with it, but it makes about as much sense as blind eye users not being able to use air support, flak jacket wearers not allowed explosives, ec users not being able to hold still or even walk slowly, sitrep users no equipement .........  you can take it from there.

lol an easy counter is to not stare at the mini map and chase red dots the whole game. I don't understand all the ghost/assassin crying the perk has been in the game since COD4.

Nah sorry that's too big a nerf.

Assassin is a good perk, but getting rid of the minimap? That is way too big of a disadvantage in public matches. Minimap is used not just for finding enemies, but to see where your teammates are, where they're dying etc. And ya it definitely helps with finding enemies.

Assassin is only overpowered because of people's reliance on UAVs, and the only reason people rely on UAVs so much is because they are so easy to get. I've had a few ideas for solutions.

1. Put Blind eye and Assassin in same perk slot. While this doesn't solve the problem it does eliminate the possibility for an all stealth class.

2. Make UAV a higher killstreak, 4 for assault, and 5-6 for support (if support still exists). As it stands it is way too easy to spam UAVs, especially with Hardline. If there are fewer UAVs than Assassin won't be as helpful.

3. Get rid of it. Make UAV a relatively high killstreak (5 for assault) and just get rid of assassin/Ghost. This was essentially the same as MW2 where SP was in the same tier and almost no one used ghost.

4. Put other amazing perks in the same tier slot. The issue here is that the only perks that I've seen that can compare to Assassin for amateur players (which is who the majority of assassin using campers are) are Stopping Power, and sleight of hand pro in BO. I don't want stopping power back, so this likely wont work either.

I think the best solution is number 1. You could even put DS in the same slot so that you can always be detected by 2 of UAV/Air Support/Sound.

I kinda like the idea. They could also make uav a 5 or 6 killstreak. Less uav spam equals less players using ghost/assassin. Either way i think ghost/assassin is a crutch. So much so, that I would recomend it to people who are new to COD. Its sad when i see experienced players using it. I only use it on my spas 12 class because of the random hitmarkers and the time in between shots. I need that crutch because the pump action shotguns are tough to use in this game for those reasons. Otherwise its hardline pro with my stinger shooting down your uav.

not another one of these threads there is only one way to make ghost/assassin balanced is to bring back stopping power simple as that

Assassin is fine the way it is, just use your eyes and you'll see them.

A perk shouldn't give people a disadvantage, no other tier two perk does..

Mw3 is a lost cause since support streaks are so easy to get, of course people will overuse Assassin Pro which is too multifunctional as it is.

How 3arch should balance ghost / uav spam for Black ops II

First off no support streaks. Too easy to spam uavs. Just plain old Streaks (with the point streak addition of mw3, rewarding objective play / anti airsupport) but no stacking of point streaks with lethal steaks. Making people earn their streaks & still rewarding objective / team

play

Uav streaks;

1. 3 uav (personal radar) 30 seconds, 3 personal radar jammer (everybody of the other team nearby you gets jammed)

2. 5 team uav 40 seconds & 5 counter uav 40 seconds

6. 9 Advanced uav / blackbird 50 seconds

Ghost should cover team uavs when moving aka make the sweep 3 times slower on Ghost / Assassin users. Cuavs should work against ghost *unless the player has the specialist bonus. More ways to counter uavs than only using ghost and shooting them down (where ghost is again a must to not get shot while trying to shoot them down). Finally when the man who calls in the uavs, team uav and cuav dies, their uavs should automatically dissapear, bar for the advanced uav, meaing people would need to be good to keep uavs in the air.

Ghost pro should be the basic; Ghost counters uavs / radar jammer streaks and team uavs when moving and ghost pro gives no name tag plus ghillie suit suited for the maps environment. Basically don't make it multi functional by splitting it up with blind eye and other perks effectively & don't make uavs very easy to spam.

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Mar 8, 2012