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SilentDHBI Apprentice 623 posts since
Nov 28, 2011
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Apr 10, 2012 9:26 AM

Beachhead... Top 100% in Clan Ops get Bronze. REALLY?

A couple of months ago, I predicted that the clan ops would have terribly skewed scoring and would be worthless to even consider a "competition."

 

http://community.callofduty.com/message/205421425#205421425

 

Turns out, I was not only right, but I only scratched the surface of how bad it would get. ELITE is now giving the TOP 100% (which is everyone) a bronze medal. Enlist and you get bronze. WTF. Are you serious? Why does every clan deserve XP if they can't make the top 50%? This is the last straw IMO. The clan ops have been bad enough that they don't even consider Hardcore players to be worthy of ops. Now, everyone gets XP, too. If that's the case, the last small semblance of competition has flown out the window. Of course, it's not like anyone could check to see exactly how many clans have gotten gold on every op (HBI has), because there isn't a clan tracker. Hey, that would have been a GREAT idea... but you didn't think of it. There are no "standings" or "rankings" of any sort. ELITE, as a website, is the next best thing to useless... Well, honestly, it IS useless. It's like you are just trying to pander to the lowest common denominator customers enough that they'll stick around for ELITE 2.0. Right. Not buying it. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... (Hardcore gamers are seriously pissed at you and the entire CoD franchise right now.)

 

The other thing about this is... There are no leaderboards to look at for these most recent ops. So, even had I wanted to (and I did), I couldn't go back and analyze the scoring for the last clan op. 25000+ clans enlisted. ELITE describes how to get bronze now... "Bronze: All remaining clans with participants whom scored." (Should have said "who" there... terrible grammar ELITE on top of your other boneheaded mistakes.) So it SAYS that only clans who SCORED are receiving bronze. Oh yeah? And where's the proof? I want to see the leaderboards. If even one clan gets XP for not participating, it invalidates the entire point of clan ops. If all someone has to do is enlist to gain XP, then it isn't a competition, it's a joke. Oh, wait. It is, and has been the entire time, a joke. There is no "fixing" of ELITE. It is broken beyond salvaging. And that's even before you had a chance to mess up Clan Challenges. I'm disgusted with what we've gotten for our money. This isn't competition, this isn't worth the money or effort, and God knows the game itself really isn't that good.

 

I would like you to get your stuff straight, Beachhead. I know that Activision and Infinity Ward stuck you in between a rock and a hard place. You have done well, all considered. The concept of ELITE was awesome. I bought into it. But what you have delivered isn't enough, not by a long shot, for this customer. I am a hardcore CoD gamer. I am a clan leader. I want the clan ops and challenges like they were promised to us. I don't care how much trouble they are... proper clan ops and clan challenges (of ANY sort) should have been your number one priority this entire time. If you wasted one second worrying about Lone Wolf ops, then you did the entire ELITE membership a disservice. The reason given why there have only been core ops is because most players play core? Ok, fair enough. Then why on God's green earth have you not put your number one priority on clan ops and challenges... because that's what the VAST majority wants. But I'm pretty sure it's too late to change or save anything. And Activision and Infinity Ward will realize their mistakes when ELITE 2.0 rolls out, and four people pay for it. Enjoy!

  • mojocu Expert 1,324 posts since
    Jul 15, 2011

    Have a 1 person clan with Premium.  Start the game, play 1 game, get 1 kills.  250 xp. 

     

    My clan has been in the top 1% the last several Ops and we get a whole 1,000xp...

     

    Compared to someone who plays 1 game who gets 1/4 of that. 

     

    They need to have more tiers.

  • man-of-fear Novice 65 posts since
    Sep 10, 2011
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    2. Apr 10, 2012 12:22 PM (in response to mojocu)
    Re: Beachhead... Top 100% in Clan Ops get Bronze. REALLY?

    If they are not going to add clan challenges they should atleast give us more xp for these clan ops. 2,500 xp for winning an operation? You would need to win 40 just to get to the max level. Probably won't even be that many clan ops from now to the next call of duty.

  • WhyNoName Novice 217 posts since
    Jan 16, 2012

    Based on the effectiveness of the current state of Clan Operations, I think the situation is OK.  Also, the Clan Operations have had a problem scoring properly as well so the legitimacy of the kill counts/etc must be evaluated too.  Given all of these problems and the lack of Operations, I don't see a problem with being a little lenient.  Now, if all things were working properly, I agree that things should not be so lenient.

  • zzrob Novice 96 posts since
    Sep 20, 2011

    given that nearly all of the clan ops so far have been around 1:30am EU....and finish a 4:30 i think its only just acceptable, as i can have a game or two then go to bed, if only we could get some to start a about 8pm when people have finished work or have not got to say up till early morning...1:30 is just a joke

     

    but all in don't think clan ops were thought out very well, but!! if you wonna level you gotta do em right

     

    Bring on clan challenges!

  • dastealth Master 1,637 posts since
    Jun 1, 2011

    2 clan ops ago my clan got silver & bronze in the same op. Now tell me how that works and then we only get the XP for the bronze medal...

  • ronsin909 Apprentice 182 posts since
    Nov 9, 2011

    Bump... Bump... Bump...

  • rwcgillam Expert 753 posts since
    Dec 4, 2011

    Does the top clan get 2,500 XP?  It's not stated on the break down of awards, just on the picture.  I'm wondering if that's something they forgot to edit when the started clan ops back op.  #COPYPASTEFAIL

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