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I always disagree with everything TSD says. It would be amazing if he said something I actually agree with.
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It will happen one day even the mighty Mac and others have fallen to this.

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trialstardragon wrote:
Just because a weapon is a secondary does not mean it has to be worse than a primary weapon I have stated this once before. Primary and secondary only really mean what weapon slot they are in, not how they should perform in the game. So to try and use the fact that some secondaries are beating out primarys does not justify the argument at all.
What? Yes it does. Secondaries are meant to be weaker than primaries. Tell me, would anyone use a pistol if it were a primary? Think well before your answer. Sure, there would be people to use it, but it would be very, very underused. That's why they're secondaries. They are not on par with other primaries to have a whole class spent on it. That is EXACTLY the reason shotguns are so underused in this game. If it were a regular secondary, a whole bunch of people would use them - at first - and then start complaining since they are so inconsistent.
trialstardragon wrote:
Plus akimbo weapons will normaly always beat out single weapons in every game
Oh yeah... that's why so much people used them in previous games, right? Everybody used Akimbo UMP45s in MW2, Dual Wield Skorpions in Blops... wrong! They fuc*ed up akimbos in this game. That's a given. If you fail to see that, you didn't gave much attention in previous games.
trialstardragon wrote:
Akimbos shoudl always beat out any weapon of any class ever when in the right range of the akimbo weapon, even the shotguns. This is just common sense and logical thinking.
OK I just laughed at this part. How can you say something logical (Akimbo regularly outplay other weapons) in a thread where you are against a shotgun buff. Shotguns should always blow someone apart. This is just common sense and logical thinking.
trialstardragon wrote:
Feel lucky they are even in the game, You never know when a game will be made that completely removes that class of weapons from the game, even if it is known it will upset some of the players by doing so.
If they do so, I'll be ok with it. What bothers me, is letting them be on the game and making them crap (Striker/USAS-12 excluded. These are alright) If we don't complain about it, they will continue to think they're right. They're not.
Anyway, good thing Mark acknowledged that Shotguns are crap... and that they'll change it.
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"Hip fired shotguns are basically skillless weapons where luck determines the kill. Where as ads fired shotguns you have a better chance at controling the effectiveness of the shotgun"
The spread of hipfire with steady aim is much smaller so you need to be more on target to even get a hit. Aiming down sight gives you a slight zoom, sticky aim, and decreased sensativity making it much much easier to line up a shot. Steady aim enhanded hipfire is harder to do and is far more effective. Don't try to give shotgun advice to us when you don't use them much and appearently when you do use them you do poorly with them.
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Show me your vidoes then that prove what you say is true.
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You smoking weed OP. Shotguns are awesome, a buff would make them the most OP guns ever seen in cod, they would actually start killing people in real life via the game, do to the extreme overpowerness of power they would have.
Look at this insane feed with one of them cqb, taking out 9 men instantly, with excellent ohk range, they all die instantly cqb, yet you want them buffed?
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Where can I find this awesome "shotgun"?

Oh wait...I found mine....
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I posted here earlier and I got MW3 yesterday. I tried all the guns I had (even the type 95, I can tell that's going to be a gun I'd have to be careful of or otherwise I'll never be able to wean myself off it) and I have to say SMGs really outclass even the USAS for rushing. It's going to be a long road to all shotties gold, I think I'll get 4 prestige tokens and all 10 create a classes and then proceed to get the shotguns gold, for now I'm probably only going to get damage/range for a decent shotgun each prestige. Le sigh.
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GT/PSN: iTaco_Bassist
BUFF THE SHOTGUNS!
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