I agree with the people complaining about the shotguns, I have actually stopped trying to use them because I think they aren't worth the anger that they bring. The final straw came when I ran up behind someone and from five or so feet away blasted at him with the model, perfectly centered shot, I assume that he is dead so I kind of turn to run on to the next target.  Of course he isn't dead, realizing this I turn and fire again, and while I will admit the second shot was not nearly as good (I hit him in the legs), I still get a hitmarker of course he then proceeds to turn around kill me. 

I watched the killcam, on his screen the first shot makes his entire screen go red, the second shot which registered hitmarkers on my screen doesn't even hurt him at all....brilliant

I wonder if there is something fundamentally flawed with how the the game registers the shotgun pellets at close range, most of my wtf shotgun moments are from 1 to 5 feet away from the target. 

Also on a completely separate note, the LMGs deserve a minor buff.  There was nothing wrong with them in mw2 having no damage drop off over range, it balanced out their slower movement speed.  In mw3 they are even slower and suffer the similar range drop off as the ARs but have a great deal more recoil.  So I would like to see the LMGs either recieve no damage drop off penalties over range* or at least see a major buff in their range.

* the exception would be m60, which would have a 2 bullet kill at close range and then drop to a 3 bullet kill at medium to long range.  Also I think the LSW 86 should be a 3 to 4 bullet kill, do to it's below average recoil and high fire rate.  

Why are IW and friends so scared to make all of the shotguns viable at knife range? No one will ever know. Dozens upon dozens of videos showing shotguns killing in 2-4 hits in their niche WITH DAMAGE, but not a single video of any other weapon doing something similar.

Yet, Assault Rifles will be the superior weapon in the end in any situation*.

*Until you run into the almighty Akimbo machine pistols, then it is those. And they make the shotguns even more pointless.

As many other people have said before the creation of this thread, the connection needs to be sorted out before people start crying about weapon balance.

tedge wrote:

 

As many other people have said before the creation of this thread, the connection needs to be sorted out before people start crying about weapon balance.

you don't have to have a perfect connection in order to look at the stats of the weapons and see some weapons are significantly worse than other weapons.  Either way, they've been "sorting out the connection" for four months and no noticable improvement for most people.  Making the pump actions more consistent would take all of 5 minutes to do, and i have yet to hear any argument about how such a fix would overpower them