Feb 12, 2012 1:42 PM
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Mar 3, 2012 1:26 PM by
Bleak5170 
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After weeks of messing about with my router and PS3 to try and stop me being host I managed it tonight.
I had turned off UPnP on both router and console, taken PS3 out of DMZ and not forwarded ports but the game still gave me an open NAT.
Tonight the host lag was terrible and first 5 games I joined I was host and ended up quitting. The frame rate was very stuttery so I tried again to stop me being host doing the above. Logged into the game and for some strange reason it gave me a moderate NAT and I was able to play all night without being picked as host!
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So, basically you're choking your upload speed so you won't sent out what you do in the game as fast as the updates, what others do, get sent to you? Isn't that, supposingly, what a lag-switch is meant to do?
I was playing last night and ran into these players on the other team that was moving quite erratically. When he/she [from here on, he] was moving he constantly moved one part fast and one part very slowly. Fast, slow, fast, slow. Looking at the kill-cam he was moving smoothly and at the same speed the whole time. Just like his movements and activity wasn't updated, for me, as fast as what our movements and activites were, for him. I know, this could very well be lag on his part. But after reading your technique it got me thinking since I ran into a few couple of this behaviour and in different lobbies.
What happens if every player in a lobby does this trick? Will everyone's move be choppy or does this technique not interfere with the game at all? Like if the host doesn't upload fast then the game definitely will be unplayable.
I'm not putting your technique down. Not at all. I'm just curious since it seems to work so well.
Have a good one!
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robbies wrote:
So, basically you're choking your upload speed so you won't sent out what you do in the game as fast as the updates, what others do, get sent to you? Isn't that, supposingly, what a lag-switch is meant to do?
I was playing last night and ran into these players on the other team that was moving quite erratically. When he/she [from here on, he] was moving he constantly moved one part fast and one part very slowly. Fast, slow, fast, slow. Looking at the kill-cam he was moving smoothly and at the same speed the whole time. Just like his movements and activity wasn't updated, for me, as fast as what our movements and activites were, for him. I know, this could very well be lag on his part. But after reading your technique it got me thinking since I ran into a few couple of this behaviour and in different lobbies.
What happens if every player in a lobby does this trick? Will everyone's move be choppy or does this technique not interfere with the game at all? Like if the host doesn't upload fast then the game definitely will be unplayable.
I'm not putting your technique down. Not at all. I'm just curious since it seems to work so well.
Have a good one!
i can see your point mate, and in effect your almost right apart from what i found for my connection was if i slow my connection down to much it didnt aid me at all.. i went down as low as 200 kbps upload and i could'nt find a game.. plus the search was going up over 100 which i really didnt want..
in slowing my upload connection im actually pretty much on par with the rest of the uk.. if everybody checked there broadband speeds on there PS3 they would be luck to get over 800 kbps upload...?
basically what i have tried to do is give myself a uk average connection...!!! in having BT INFINITY i have a very fast connection which made me host all the time and dissadvantaged me everytime.. realistically i shouldnt be glitching or doing the fast/slow movement because i have traffic shaping enabled with a limited bandwidth but still sufficiant enough to play MW3 on.. using a wired connection if setup correctly with ports forwarded & open you will get the best connection available.. but if your connection is above the average in that specific lobby when your playing you will get the brunt of the LAG and may even host..
All im doing is giving a valid answer in avoiding the original LAG i encountered when i originally had my fast broadband setup.. this will work i Garrentee if done correctly because your making your connection simular to everybody else's in the correct way of using your router to do it... wireless is NOT the answer if your ping is quick..
(a little story)
When i 1st got my BT INFINITY i basically played MW2,B/OPS & MW3 .. all of which were basically LAGGY & nowhere near the experience i had when my internet was slower (especially MW2 from what i could remember) .. i think LAG COMPENSATION has been in all the COD's but because new internet deal's are coming out giving us all faster pings etc.. we are all annoyed with the game thinking its the developers at fault.. try to imagine making a game for many different connection types and different speed types.. how would you try to make that fair..? well i actually thought in getting a faster connection i would Own so i had 1 installed.. well this has only has only hampered my gaming experience if im honest.. put it this way i went round a friends house with my PS3 and basically we played side by side with 2x PS3's & 2x tv's..on a 5 mbps download & 0.7 kbps upload sharing hois connection & guess what ...? i got a MOAB even though i was drinking heavily lol.. that got me thinking the next day... what if i slow my connection down..? so off i went to the shop to buy the new router. .. i only did this because my super fast internet was a hinderence but as im tied into a long contract i had to do something.. the new routers today have so many added features it just takes time to set them up correctly for what you want to do.. i know a little about networking and ip settings so i just fiddled around a bit.. if you have fast internet ping i would do the same if you dont know what else to do and you have the money anyway it worked for me so im very happy.. my connection is still very quick on wireless but the ethernet ports are now at a slower speed which is ok.. i realise that not every game will be amazing and that i will still experience some LAG but this whole Host issue has gone now and im having a much better experience of MW3.. yea the game has its flaws but its still very good when setup this way..
yours
Lgnd-Shiz
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robbies wrote:
So, basically you're choking your upload speed so you won't sent out what you do in the game as fast as the updates, what others do, get sent to you? Isn't that, supposingly, what a lag-switch is meant to do?
I was playing last night and ran into these players on the other team that was moving quite erratically. When he/she [from here on, he] was moving he constantly moved one part fast and one part very slowly. Fast, slow, fast, slow. Looking at the kill-cam he was moving smoothly and at the same speed the whole time. Just like his movements and activity wasn't updated, for me, as fast as what our movements and activites were, for him. I know, this could very well be lag on his part. But after reading your technique it got me thinking since I ran into a few couple of this behaviour and in different lobbies.
What happens if every player in a lobby does this trick? Will everyone's move be choppy or does this technique not interfere with the game at all? Like if the host doesn't upload fast then the game definitely will be unplayable.
I'm not putting your technique down. Not at all. I'm just curious since it seems to work so well.
Have a good one!
No these are two completely different things. Your managing your bandwidth and only allowing so much bandwidth. A lag switch creates an actual disconnect that completely disrupts all connections to you.
If I only allow 768Kbps upload I am matching, estimate, 50% of others standard download. So I am not creating an advantage over others. Just putting me on the same playing field.
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