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dubhicks Apprentice 480 posts since
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Feb 6, 2012 10:43 AM

Wouldn't it be nice...

  What if COD and/or PSN offered a pay system that would allow you to play with real gamers? (Kinda like the fee that XBOX players pay to play online). I mean, if they wanted to charge me say 5-10 bucks a month for a premium service (not the Elite BS they pawn off as premium), I would be more than happy to pay to play and have fun. As it is now, we all buy the game and have to play with anyone that signs on to the PSN, be that a kid or an adult.

What I am getting at is by paying with a credit card (and having to prove that the CC is issued to you), PSN/COD could all but garuantee that you were playing with the demographic community this game was "suppose" to be targeting. Not to mention that having to pay more money for something that you could already get for free would keep most/all of the kiddies in the kiddy pool (regular playlists etc.)

So essentially, you could have a lobby that was dedicated to people who love to play the game the way it is designed to be played, and a lobby that is for everyone else to do whatever the hell they feel like doing without getting on the paid users nerves. Lets face it, all the jerks that p!ss us off, do so because they are able to plug and play after they aquire the game.

Just my thoughts on it. I'm sure it would never happen, but man, wouldn't it be nice...

  • machine2011 Master 2,976 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 10:46 AM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    that wouldnt stop the kids playing they have parents with credit cards besides its not just kids that spoil this game so called adults can be just as annoying

      • machine2011 Master 2,976 posts since
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        Feb 6, 2012 11:05 AM (in response to dubhicks)
        Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

        im a xbox gamer and theres plenty of annoying kids still around

          • Novice 230 posts since
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            Feb 6, 2012 1:08 PM (in response to dubhicks)
            Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

            You missed his point. They had a choice the day they bought the XBOX. It was Cheaper at the time then the PS3 and was advertised as a $60 dollar a month service,Yet they choose the XBOX and their parents paid it all for them.

             

            It would be nice if like you said it could actually separate us but, unfortunately there are parents that $10 a month to keep my kid out my hair ok you got Son.

             

            My opinion it won't work. You would just have 2 sets of play lists that are messed up. Maybe you could have an MLG only List where you would have to enter an MLG license # to play if they actually have that, IDK.

             

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  • Master 648 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 11:13 AM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    1) Why would we want to pay for something that's free?

     

    2) You honestly think anyone on this earth would pay more money (via third party payments) to Novision for a premium lobby?!

     

    3)You mad?

    • thisguygotcha Master 1,744 posts since
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      Feb 6, 2012 1:00 PM (in response to yalikethat)
      Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

      Its how america works. A bunch of idiots. They argue cause someone running for pres payed less of a % in taxes than them. (He also did it legally and by investing which you get the lower tax % as there is risk in doing so) But instead of arguing that all ppl pay less taxes that this persons taxes should be higher. IDK american just thinks if you blow more money govermnent will become less corrupt or fairer or whatever. Makes no sense to me.

  • mithbtX Expert 383 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 11:17 AM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    I don't think this would have the result that you envision.

     

    First of all, I don't think a credit card and willingness to pay is the mark of "true gamers playing the game the way it was designed to be played." For all intents and purposes, everyone playing right now is a gamer playing the game the way it was designed. More fees will only drive away the players that aren't interested in paying more fees. I paid for Premium Elite and haven't got half the features that were advertised yet; I'd be even more skeptical of a "premium lobby" fee.

     

    The other thing I don't think you can define clearly is this "lobby that was dedicated to people that love to play the game the way it was designed to be played." I think if you picked 10 random people from this forum, or even from within the game, and asked them how they thought the game was designed to be played, you would get a dozen different answers.

  • Novice 228 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 11:18 AM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    I'm not understanding the logic here.  I'm a "true" gamer, I love playing all sorts of games COD being one.  But I wouldn't pay for PSN service unless they had something drastic for the payment.

     

    There are pro's and con's to both systems

     

    Xbox has a better network (due to more money)

    along with better advertisements.

    But that attracts the little kiddies and other people who are immature to buy it because they wanna say their the best. (Not in anyway downing anyone for having an Xbox)

     

    PSN is free

    More mature players due to most adults that want to play don't wanna pay extra just to play.

    But Sony advertises less and makes less revenue, there for the network isn't as good as Xbox.

     

    I see your point, and sony very well might start charging to play but there will have to be some changes first and they know that.

     

    I own a playstation aswell.

      • mithbtX Expert 383 posts since
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        Feb 6, 2012 12:29 PM (in response to dubhicks)
        Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

        There's already a free way to do this, though.

         

        Find 5 people that play the game the way you think they should play it. Make a party. Play. If you can find more people that play the game the way you want them to play, play Ground War.

         

        I'm honestly not all that concerned with what the people on the other team are doing, as long as it's not blatant cheating. If you've got a good team, the game is far more entertaining.

  • nickzombie Master 5,551 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 11:23 AM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    This is what will happen:

     

    The playlist will be entirely elitist KDR tryhard douches, but apparently that is fun?

     

     

    And you do realize that the target demographic for COD is the casual 12- 25 year old.  The 17+ rating is only placed for legal reasons. 

     

    What the hell do you mean by 'real gamer" ?  Are you playing with cyborgs or something?

    • Novice 228 posts since
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      Feb 6, 2012 11:29 AM (in response to dubhicks)
      Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

      Your frustration is valid, but Activision will always be on the side with the money. (like all corperate business') Right now the money is with the younger generation who: A) can get their parents to buy.  B) Has always bought COD and will continue.

       

      Plus there is no way of telling how old someone is on the internet.  Even with verification an adult could let someone under 17 play and no one would know. 

      • Newbie 19 posts since
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        Feb 6, 2012 12:30 PM (in response to jware68)
        Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

        The main reason why i decided to get the PS3 console instead of xbox is because the online service is free.Also before you say i'm a kiddie or i was a kiddie when i bought my PS3,i was 20 when i bought my PS3 and i'm turning 22 this month.Anyways back to what i was saying,it would be a horrible idea to have to pay for the online service on the PS3 because a lot of people who have a PS3 either don't wanna pay for the online service or got an xbox as well and don't wanna pay twice for the same kind of service.Personally,i will never buy an xbox because i don't need one and i'm happy with my PS3 and i certainly don't want Activision (money hungry faggets) to put a cost for the online service on the PS3 for Call of duty.Talking about that,i will never pay for elite nor will i buy the map packs for MW3.Also,i heard you gotta wait 2 months rather than 1 month to get the map packs if you're on the PS3 and not an elite member.Activision once again dictates that they're money hungry whores and basically **** on the PS3 users because we don't pay for the online.I said it but i'll say it again,i will not give 1 additional dime to Activision,all they're getting is the money for THE GAME AND THE GAME ONLY.Maybe i'll change my mind about elite or the map packs when Black ops 2 comes out,we'll see.

  • justinsanev2 Expert 1,813 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 12:23 PM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

     

    First thing I thought of when I saw the thread title

     

     

    On-topic:

    These "paid lobbies" would be filled with nothing but elitists and self-entitled pricks. 

      • mithbtX Expert 383 posts since
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        Feb 6, 2012 12:55 PM (in response to dubhicks)
        Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

        dubhicks wrote:

         

        The sad truth is I play this game exaclty as I am sure it is made to play, and will rarely see the satisfaction of playing with like minded players.

        You keep saying this. Who isn't playing the game the way it's designed to be played? Just because they're playing differently than you doesn't mean they're not playing the game in a manner it shouldn't be played. There's 80 levels, 10 prestiges, 34 primary weapons, 16 secondary weapons, and 15 perks. All those weapons come with various add-ons and proficiencies, and there's three strike pacakges with 15 killstreaks in the Assault package and 12 in the Support package. There's 10 different game modes in the standard playlist and 16 different maps with more to come as DLC. It's a flexible game. Some people will play it differently than others.

          • mithbtX Expert 383 posts since
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            Feb 6, 2012 1:22 PM (in response to dubhicks)
            Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

            At no point have I suggested you're not entitled to your opinion. But when you put your opinion out there and ask for responses, you should be prepared for responses that disagree with you. I have responded to several other threads today, so I am by no means singling you out. I take issue with your assertion that there are all these people out there that just aren't playing the game the right way, and if they all played the way you want, things would be so much better. I think that's the wrong direction to take any game, not just this latest release of CoD.

             

            As I said, if you feel the people on your team aren't playing the game correctly, make a new team with like-minded individuals.

              • mithbtX Expert 383 posts since
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                Feb 7, 2012 6:54 AM (in response to dubhicks)
                Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

                I understand what you're saying, and as I've pointed out there's a way to do that without spending any money, and that's to get into a party. There's lots of groups here on the forums that are looking for mature players that want to play objective game modes and know what they're doing. If you get a good team, you can play matches where you capture two flags in the first 20 seconds of the match and hold them until the end without ever having to go back and recapture or flip spawns or lose control due to inexperienced teammates.

                 

                I used to play domination on my own in Black Ops and I don't know if the teams I got put on were just better, or people understood the game mode better, but I had far more success with random teams in Black Ops. In MW3, I won't play Domination or Demolition without at least a couple of teammates. I don't know if it's the maps, the players, the spawn system, or any number of other issues, but I just can't get away with the same sort of things in objective games in MW3 that I could on random teams in Black Ops.

                 

                The one objective mode I'll play solo is Kill Confirmed, and that's because it's just about the only mode where I can get by without too much team coordination. Domination, Demolition, Search, and Defender, where you depend on coordination with teammates are just not modes I can play solo. I'm not good enough to carry the team on my own, and I'm not patient enough to wait until I'm put on a team that knows what they're doing.

  • Novice 230 posts since
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    Feb 6, 2012 1:22 PM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    I think the answer you are looking for can be found in a "Vote to kick player'' option such as seen in the SOCOM Series.

     

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  • Izjar11 Master 7,235 posts since
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    Feb 7, 2012 7:38 AM (in response to dubhicks)
    Re: Wouldn't it be nice...

    Your reasoning is good, but un-realistic. I have a question for you when you state "to play the game the way it is designed to be played" what way are you thinking? I wouldn't mind paying if we received the absolute best service.

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