Feb 5, 2012 8:59 AM
Poll/Petition: The removal of akimbo machine pistols Please sign
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well i did a little search to see if anyone has done anything official, actually tried to get a petition or poll going on whether or not the community wants these little suckers
imho we don't need them. They promote spraying and praying and drop the highest killstreaks with ease. Since they cannot properly nerf these weapons the next best shot if just removing them from online gameplay. If you and your boys wanna private match and spray each other down with them thats fine by me. My guess is you won't because spraying down your boys won't be any fun. Trolling around on randoms is.
Anyways, please sign this. I hope to have a decent size list that i will tweet to RB and maybe some others on twitter. That is where most of the responses get made
Please, Please don't respond with, "You mad bro" or any other unintelligent slur you may come up with. I'm serious about getting this game a little bit fairer. These weapons are trolled the most and they need to be addressed by us.
100% Agree, remove akimbo from MPs
No way akimbos are fun as heII to use and the pretty much the only guns that can beat a striker, if you can get close enough.
You mad bro?
agreed.. remove those things. They are so OP its not even fair.
Honestly I don't get the problem. I'd rather deal with an akimbo fmg user than another loser running around with a silenced ACR or P90. If you have an issue with akimbo users just stay the hell away from them. Any assault rifle can take down an akimbo user before they are anywhere near close enough to hit you because assault rifles have the same range as a goddamn sniper rifle and automatic fire...
Yeah and the akimbos have been nerfed to heII too, there no where as easy to kill with as they once were. Even the FMG's have was more recoil now and a much slower fire rate, which is prolly for the better I guess.
thats funny I remeber seeing videos showing proof that akimbos increase the rate of fire by 30% or more. Thats the opposite of a nerf.... And MPs and FMGs have hardly any recoil.
Yep i agree 2 !
it is fair everyone gets to use the same gun how is it op if its a fair use by all players your just mad bro
akimbo should only be used for pistols and even then you should lose the ability to knife and have a slower reload time
Then you should lose the ability to knife with Assault rifles and Snipers too cause they require two hands to use.
It doesnt take two hands to hold a rifle.
To aim and shoot one it does
stop moaning like a ***** and just play the game
i haven't seen a slow fire rate in the FMG's i've seen a faster firerate with them the last time i used them
signed!!!!!!
Want this, but I highly doubt they will do it. If they could at the very least make it so the reload time is less than that of a single FMG I could at least stand it.
THe fire rate has always increased with the akimbo attachment. Im not sure on the exact numbers but before the nerf a single FMG had a RoF of say 500, with the akimbo attachment it increased around 15% to 650 (lol at my math), post nerf to Rof went down quit a bit to say 350 single and 450 akimbo. And yes an assualt rifle takes two hands to hold. Try goin akimbo with some fully loaded M16's.
THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
Take Akimbo MP out of the game, it gives a REASON to use pistols.
IT JUST MAKES PERFECT SENSE
You know normally I wouldnt even reply to weak threads like this but obviously they listen to people on these forums and nerf pretty much anything you ask to the point its getting out of hand. If your having this hard of a time with this game just keep freakin practicing! You dont think we all didnt get our asses whipped on CoD when we first started. I got destroyed all of MW1. HeII I got MW3 about 2 weeks late and got destroyed the whole first 2 weeks or so I played.
I would say most of these nerf posts are simply just people raging after a couple of bad games. I mean surely by now most people have found an effective strategy against any guns that have given them problems.
And let me add to this - for sucky players like myself, posts about the akimbo setup and the Striker do little else but make me wonder if I should get on board with these weapons and give them a try, which is pretty much exactly the opposite of what the OP intends. I mean, if all these weapons that are considered OP and unfair are being used, then the solution for players who aren't that good yet is to simply join in and use them, as well.
I am certainly still considered a newb in terms of this game, but I have learned a good deal since I began playing it. And while I do try to make sure I challenge myself and not try shortcuts or play in styles that others find annoying (i.e. camping), I can say that the crop of players even newer and less skilled than myself (if they are even out there
) want to use these weapons simply for the fact that they may have an unfair element. If there is any argument to nerf or remove, than perhaps that is the one.
ttt
Before I sign, what weapons do you use?
Ban akimbo MP's and next thing people are gonna start crying that everyone is running around with modded out pistols...just play the game and quit crying.
How about No. How about you and everyone else that cries so much about them actually go and learn to counter them, there are many ways to do so. Stop trying to have the game dumbed down even further to cater only to your playstyle because you do not like that there is a weapon that can counter it in the game.
everyone says "counter these"
how...whats your suggestion
these things drop 1000 health juggernaunts with one clip
explain...and explain well...i don't want your "stand far away and shoot" ethier
because the maps are tiny
These maps are not tiny, there is more than enough room in every map to stay away from akimbo weapons. Unless you run around like a headless chicken chasing dots all the time. So yes the easiesty and most pratical way to counter them is stay out of their range. Another is to remember which players were using them, not everyone in every lobby uses them. So remember the tag and make sure you keep them at distance, again not hard to do if you pay attention. Another is not go head to head but to flank them from the sides or behind them. Play stealthy, and strategicly, guriella warfare, ambush tactics. Do not just run around. Change up your game style and weapon use when in a lobby with people using the FMG. Adapt to how they are moving about and then overcome them by being better prepared for the next ecounter with them. And yes all of this is very possible even on these maps; for they are not nearly as small as some people like to say they are.
Well think about it, why are akimbo Machine Pistols so good up close? Their extremely fast rate of fire. So your gonna want to match that with the pp90 or the PM-9 or maybe even the FAD. Or you can use something that can kill extremely fast like the AA-12 or the striker. ADS around corners in tight places so you can get the jump on them. The list im so sure can go on. Ive gave you six counters right there.
And im sure someone wil lcounter my post with the classic response "Well why should I be forced to use a certain gun?" Well the answer is simple, your not forced to use a certain gun but when you run into someone giving you problems switch to a specific class you have set up to counter them. For example, if I run into someone sniping the **** outta me, I switch to a special class I have to counter that that includes my RPG has a secondary.
you may of misunderstood my point for this thread
i was looking for people to sign this thread...not as a discussional thread.
if you want to discuss this, thats fine, there's 104924902854901 other threads about it.
i'm sure me and a huge heap of people just don't want these anymore, the small portion of people who want these to stick around use these are primaries and or really rely on these.
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i think i have around 50 kills total with the FMG9's and thats proboly from picking them up
200 kills maybe with the MP9
i have under 100 kills with the sticker
and i don't even have 500 kills for the Type 95
i have over 6 days played and i'm a 9th prestige.
In dom or kc, these weapons aren't as prevelent, but i've been playing alot of search lately and thats all it is, akimbo everywhere
idontcare7 wrote:
well i did a little search to see if anyone has done anything official [...]
Seriously... there are only 18,203.659 threads on the subject of removing akimbos.
Get it through your head -- they might...
... change them.
... modify them.
... nerf them.
... adjust them.
... tweak them,
... alter them.
... enhance them.
... or in some way, shape, or form alter the manner in which they behave in game.
But the one thing they are not doing is this...
They
are
not
removing
them.
If you want to counter these weapons use them yourself that will even up the playing field. I use Akimbo weapons and still get nailed by guys using the striker all the time. Maybe we should get rid of those too? Akimbo weapons are almost useless on Liberation and you get killed by sniper rifles all the time get rid of those too? Fact is you need to learn more than one class and adapt to different maps. Figure out what works and what doesn't. See that's what makes this game fun trying to strategize your loadout too different scenarios. I heard this same stuff all through Black Ops now here we go again. Get smart adapt and overcome or maybe go play something else it's up to you. I am what I would consider to be a pretty average player I started this game out and got pwnd pretty bad and actually gave up on it for a bit because I didn't see the learning curve in it. I decided to give it another shake and have increased my K/D by like 35 it just took me some time and figuring out what worked and what didn't. Sure there are some OP weapons but it's that way with any of these games. most of the OP weapons have disadvantages as well (range, fire rate, ammo supply, recoil etc) you just have to learn to deal with whatever it is. If you think something is way out of balance and you are not getting a fair game change your tactics. I find myself having to restrategize all the time because someone uses a different tactic than the norm on a map. We have all heard all this before and you will not be the last. Just learn to play the game differently because I promise you that they will not change the game because of you.
oh i'm not expecting them to change it for me
i'm expecting them to change it for the community
You guys are just being pushed over
if there's a big enough voice. It will be heard.
I can try, throughout history people have tried and failed and tried and succeeded.
Maybe i'll succeed
Well good luck too ya then buddy.
I don't even have a problem with them ! If you want to be a douchebag and use them ok, whatever ! Damn, i hate the kids that use them as primaries ! As of now if you can't beat them, join them. You should hear them rage when they get taken out by their own tactics !
Signed ..
Theyre not removing them. MP9 single beats them anyway. Just get better.
Akimbo fmg's can be a pain in the ass yes, but there is plenity of ways to deal with them, most people use them to run and gun and close quarters, so you can try to get some advantage positioning, put some distance and force them to go in the open. never try to beat those things up close because most of the time you will not succed, shotguns are good for taking them out, but you have to shot first and ambush them. most of the time they use steady aim so they are vulnerable to claymores and bettys use them to cover your flanks or plant them on transited areas, they will trip on them more than you think. there are some really stupid players that corner camp with akimbo fmg's, if you think there may be a camper un the corner use your tactical grenades, play smart and youll get better results.
Everything in this game needs some tactics, if you know there will be snipers, avoid open areas, if you knos there will be fmg runners, take some distance. if the enemy is camping, try flanking them or avoid the camping spots and hunt for the ones that come at you.
And the most important thing... try to not to rage... when you become mad, your playstyle is affected, believe me.
These things can definitely be annoying at times but they're usually in the hands of bad players who use them as a crutch. Wouldn't really bother me either way if they nerfed them, left them alone or removed them. They don't affect me quite enough to care really.
"Mommy i want someone else to change. I shouldn't have to it's not fair. This is my world and everyone else just lives in it."
Sack up dude and stop being such a wuss.
May machine pistols be condemned to eternal damnation and cast into the lake of the obsolete and never cometh back to multiplayer for anyone to playeth ever again! The time cometh for skillful multiplayer where thou who can not adapt to balance weaponry shall be foresaken! Until thou learneth to aquire skill and be rightous like those who have attained glory by coordination as they playeth! I speaketh truth
Tho i didnt fully understand what you said, i got the main point. So it takes more skill to sit back and ADS or creep around corners while ADS than it does to juke ur way to cover, bob an weave thru enemy fire or flank your enemy to the side or behind to get within 10-15 yards of him with akimbos or a shotty? No it doesnt. Im not sayin one way is more necessarily more skillfull than another all im sayin is give credit where credit is due. WHEN SOMEONE IS TEARIN YOU UP IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THERE CERTAIN GUN THEY USE!!!!!!
And on the other hand if your gettin killed by some mindless rusher (akimbos or not) 6 or 7 times in a certain game thats your own fault.
Hows about you petition for a complete new game catered to your liking instead and leave this game to us who like it? or better yet get four controllers and play private matches with your specific preferences?
If theyre so overpowered then why dont you use them? Its not like certain people can use them.
No......I love them and use them every day. I get so many kills with them and love the death chatter I recieve when I use them. It's very entertaining. I would love me some akimbo other stuff too.