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9blackguys Novice
9blackguys
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Feb 29, 2012 2:50 AM

AA-12 post patch

I just heard from my brother that they nerfed (indirectly mind you) the AA-12 via "fixing" the extended mag "glitch", if you could even call it a glitch. After 30'000+ kills with my baby I can't seem to get into a rythym. I get hitmarkers when I should be getting kills.

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    slopingpainter2
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    Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    They didnt nerf. They just fixed a glicth. I guess the 50% pellet thing was unintended. They buffed all the shotguns and nerfed the Striker so eh

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    slopingpainter2
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    Jan 25, 2012 7:53 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Striker now shoots 6 pellets. Every other shotgun now shoots 8 pellets. It was a small buff so it didnt make a big difference.

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      Torzhok
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      Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM (in response to slopingpainter2)
      Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

      @Leetscope - you're just bad.

      @slopingpainter2 - yes it did make a difference.

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        leetscope
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        Jan 25, 2012 8:08 PM (in response to Torzhok)
        Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

        lol yeah you try being host cupcake.  your bad.  i love people like you who barely can dress themselves in  the morning.  because i use weapons that AREN't  good im bad hmmmmm lets rethink this one.  you keep spamming the striker ill use weapons that actually take skill but let me guess you dont use a shotty you use an ar which are in no way shape or form able to outclass the usas12 or ksg  right?

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          Torzhok
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          Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM (in response to leetscope)
          Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

          I'm host 90% of the games I play. 45mb/up, 20mb/down, ~8ms ping.

           

          Oh yes, I use assault rifles:

          Stiker - 3600 kills.

          Spas12 - 2100 kills.

          Usas12 - 2100 kills.

          KSG12 - 1700 kills.

          AA12 - 1000 kills.

           

          Again, you're just bad.

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            leetscope
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            Jan 25, 2012 8:15 PM (in response to Torzhok)
            Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

            oh yeah striker on top cupcake.  actually im decent at the game not bad.  you probably are one of those omg supa leet guys,  who runs around drop shotting.  or maybe your a super greeeaaaattt  panic knifer either way idc.  and explain how a striker isnt too good  if a so called "bad" player can switch to it and go 40-5 if not better every game on every map.  oh let me guess just lag comp or something when im host right?

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              Torzhok
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              Jan 25, 2012 8:22 PM (in response to leetscope)
              Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

              Oh nice, you have nothing on my shotgun stats and are going to switch topics

               

              I've grinded the stated 5 shotguns from 1-28, 3 times now.

               

              If you're getting 3 hitmarkers in CQC with the USAS, you're bad. I host 90% of the games, and I get 3 hitmarkers with the USAS 1/50 kills.

               

              I'm one of those super leet guys who dropshots with B and knifes accordingly.

               

              I've been destroying maxed out Striker today, all day with the KSG and USAS.

               

              Again, you're just bad.

              • JEadz Novice
                JEadz
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                Jan 26, 2012 12:41 AM (in response to Torzhok)
                Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

                Hitmarkers don't automatically make you a bad player.

                 

                stop being a leetist prick.

                 

                I totally feel that guys pain, I use the model 1887 over almost any gun, and some games to get Point blank hitmarkers and due tothe connection being slightly off you have some scrub with akimbo fmgs or a strkyer or pp90 turn and insta-gib you, then you watch the kill cam and according to that they've already started turning around -_-

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                phishpond
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                Jan 26, 2012 6:03 PM (in response to Torzhok)
                Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

                Just how do you knife accordingly.

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            Helltoy
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            Jan 26, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to Torzhok)
            Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

            amazing shotgun stats, considering they were hard to use and unreliable. now with the buff i started to use the usas again and wow, tnx IW.

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      Soracia
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      Jan 25, 2012 8:14 PM (in response to slopingpainter2)
      Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

      Didn't three of the shotguns already fire 8 pellets?  Unless something else was changed about them, then they wouldn't have been changed at all, much less buffed as promised.

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      L3G10N_X1
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      Jan 26, 2012 9:02 AM (in response to slopingpainter2)
      Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

      Actually the striker shoots 6 pellets while other shotguns now shoot 9...not 8

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        Torzhok
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        Jan 26, 2012 10:15 PM (in response to L3G10N_X1)
        Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

        1. No... only the KSG and USAS received damage buffs. Instead of firing 6, they now fire 9 pellets.

        2. Spas, Model1887, and AA12 still fire the same amount of pellets (8) and were not changed.

        3. AA12 was given more range (my opinion).

        4. Spas was gimped because it wasn't modified except for removing the extended mags glitch which caused the pellets to go from 12 -> 8 which causes lower damage + less range.

        5. Striker only had the removal of the extended mags glitch and now fires 6 pellets regardless.

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    slopingpainter2
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    Jan 25, 2012 8:03 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Idk but i stopped using shotguns. I go on and off though.

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    Feb 29, 2012 2:54 AM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    I see a lot more USAS's and Strykers in just a couple of days than I have in the past week. I liked being one of the few people who used the AA12 effectively, I got 15 MOAB's with it leading up to today, now I it seems like I can hardly do anything with it.

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    Tattooed S4ilor
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    Jan 25, 2012 8:22 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Off subject but anyone looking for a clan to join send a friend request to t4ttooed s4ilor.  We are all mature guys who like to play cooperatively.  Hit me up if your interested.

  • 9blackguys Novice
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    Jan 25, 2012 9:47 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    I've just tested the AA-12 in private match and I've reached a conclusion. The AA-12 is either worse, or the other shotguns are far far superior, maybe a bit of both, I figure it can't be all me thats causing my performance to drop because since the newest patch I'm not doing work with the AA-12 like I was not 72 hours ago.

  • JEadz Novice
    JEadz
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    Jan 26, 2012 12:45 AM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Brick2urface (i think thats his username)

     

    has done some tests and concluded that:

     

    KSG: pretty much the same, due to a buff but the dmg glitch removed.

    Spaz: Slightly worse due to removal of ext mags glitch and no buff.

    USAS: Buffed.

    AA12: pretty much the same, perhaps slightly worse due to removal of ext magz glitch

    Model: the same.

    Stryker: Nerfed

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      Brick2urFace
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      Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM (in response to JEadz)
      Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

      No

      spas- significant buff at range, only shoots 8 pellets.  Spas is now a specialist monster.  In private testing I got a 1hk from 65 ft. with specialist bonus.  feels like the mw2 non-stopping power spas now.  pretty good.

      1887- nothing noticeable. 

      ksg- 9 pellets standard nothing else noticeable.

      usas12- 9 pellets standard, slight buff at range.

      aa12- havent used it enough prior to tell the difference.

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    Chalkhous
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    Jan 26, 2012 1:21 AM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    I can't believe Robert Trolling said the shotguns where buffed but nothing happened to the spas and model. In fact the spas got nerfed as much as the striker since the striker didnt actually get nerfed. All that happened was the ext mags glitch was fixed.

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    mjw3786
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    Jan 26, 2012 9:06 AM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    really entertained by all the people that brag about their shotgun usage. you guys really make this board fun to read

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    Lawksmith
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    Jan 26, 2012 9:41 AM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Skilled players use the Model and do well with it.  One doesn't get the benefit of going super-semi-auto spam like the Striker.

     

    Guess what, you actually have to think about where and how  you want to attack because the lever action and lack of silencer leave you extremely vulnerable.  

    • BigHeadN Apprentice
      BigHeadN
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      Jan 26, 2012 10:24 AM (in response to Lawksmith)
      Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

      Lawksmith wrote:

       

      Skilled players use the Model and do well with it.  One doesn't get the benefit of going super-semi-auto spam like the Striker.

       

      Guess what, you actually have to think about where and how  you want to attack because the lever action and lack of silencer leave you extremely vulnerable.  

      Exactly, I have a lot more respect for shotgunners who use the model, ksg or spas than guys using striker. Striker is right up there with the akimbo fmg's as far as noob friendly ease of use. That being said, I don't think anything needed a buff or nerf as there is and should be better and worse guns. I'm hoping the adjustments don't throw things out of whack. Time will tell.

      • 9blackguys Novice
        9blackguys
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        Jan 26, 2012 5:35 PM (in response to BigHeadN)
        Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

        No love for the AA-12 huh?

         

        Everyone seems to think it takes no skill what so ever to use, all the credit is given to the gun. I'm not good because of me, its the gun, without I'm supposedly this terrible scrub who can't use a "real gun".

         

        Thats how it feels anyway, not saying you are insinuating the above attitude

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    justinsanev2
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    Jan 26, 2012 6:21 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIE-6It3W0&hd=1

     

  • 9blackguys Novice
    9blackguys
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    Feb 29, 2012 2:56 AM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    I hope I'm just in a funk or having a bad week and I begin ******* **** up again soon. I don't play like this, it can't be just the gun

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    ethereality
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    Jan 26, 2012 7:45 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Inconsistency with the shotguns, this was taken awhile ago, but I want this sorta thing to be fixed, see below.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgKnxqd5epM

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGAjcVsaIj0

     

    That being said, shotguns are still fun.

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    mickilla
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    Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM (in response to 9blackguys)
    Re: So they nerfed the AA12?

    Yes, they removed the extended mags glitch, which shouldn't have been there in the first place. The AA-12 was a mindless spray machine at any rate, so it being weak makes perfect sense. Same could be said of the Striker, though it still remains arguably the most effective shotgun from the sheer derp factor alone, which has been only marginally reduced by this patch.

     

    The real kicker is that the akimbos are still a whole league above and beyond any of the shotguns in terms of close range spray effectiveness. The derpdom they allow a typical moron to get away with renders pretty much everything else obsolete in short to medium ranges. Until they're nerfed to oblivion any change to shotguns will be entirely irrelevant.

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