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yonasty99 Calculating status... 8 posts since
Jul 26, 2011
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Jan 25, 2012 3:33 AM

Shotguns, and knifing.

Shotguns and knifing ruin this game. Plain and simple.

  • JEadz Novice 305 posts since
    Dec 28, 2011
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    Jan 25, 2012 3:35 AM (in response to yonasty99)
    Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

    wait.......everyone can knife...

     

    though I do think the "superman lunge knife" is stupid.

     

    Shotguns are either balanced or under balanced.

     

    L2P

      • JEadz Novice 305 posts since
        Dec 28, 2011
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        Jan 25, 2012 6:23 AM (in response to yonasty99)
        Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

        Stryker is balanced

         

        USAS and AA12 are almost balanced.

         

        the rest are horribly underpowered, try using one and you'll see

        • 9blackguys Novice 321 posts since
          Jan 25, 2012
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          Jan 25, 2012 6:48 AM (in response to JEadz)
          Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

          Go to private match, give the USAS damage and steady aim and play a one on one with somebody on Dome, you should do just fine. The Stryker is great too. Now try it again with the AA-12 (with damage or range your choice) and see how you fair, I'd bet that unless your opponent was incompetent you'd lose a lot of the time. I believe the AA-12 is among the inferior shotguns, with the USAS and Stryker being the obvious choices.

           

           

           

          I will confess though, the USAS isn't that great early on, but with damage you can one shot people from across a large room. My brother swears by the KSG 12 with damage, but even if its powerful, it's still pump action, failing when there are multiple hostiles.

  • mjw3786 Apprentice 619 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011
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    Jan 25, 2012 9:06 AM (in response to yonasty99)
    Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

    yeah the 180 spin lock-on knife kills are absurd in this game. I guess they added that so you could get the "never forget" challenge easily? [get hurt by an enemy, survive and backstab them]

  • Virtual-Paradox Calculating status... 1 posts since
    Nov 8, 2012
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    Nov 8, 2012 4:22 PM (in response to yonasty99)
    Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

    Being a former Marine nothing pisses me off more than unrealistic gun combat. Let me put 2 slugs of .45 and see if your shotgun will do you any good.

  • slap1i Apprentice 830 posts since
    Sep 12, 2011
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    Nov 9, 2012 11:39 AM (in response to yonasty99)
    Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

    Neither the shotguns or the knifing system is flawed in this game.  The shotguns won't give you any easy kills, and the knife lunge was nerfed compared to MW2.  Stop making excuses.

  • BombBayBambi Calculating status... 23 posts since
    Aug 14, 2012
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    Nov 9, 2012 2:34 PM (in response to yonasty99)
    Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

    Hope I never run into you then, I use the ksg with a pistol/tactical knife secondary . I also hate the striker, but other than that the shotguns take a bit of skill to use effectively. Your movement has to be very tactical and taking a shot with a pump action you need to be sure you're a; going to hit and b; close enough. Against an assault rifle or decent smg with space between you the shotgun loses. It's a close quarters weapon, be prepared to lose if you run up close to one with an AR. Every weapon has it's place and is better on certain maps. Man up and taste the slug lol

    • sixthsamurai Novice 159 posts since
      Sep 21, 2011
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      Nov 9, 2012 5:04 PM (in response to BombBayBambi)
      Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

      I agree. I use the KSG with Magnum/tactical knife. Particularly while leveling up the weapon you need to really change your play style. I'm typically a medium to long range player too so it was hard for me to get used to.
      I first started using a shotty in BO when I used the spaz (it was great in BO but sucks in MW3).
      The Striker, USAS and AA12 are surely effective but I guarantee that you will gain better agility when forced to close the range and make each shot count with a weapon like the KSG.

      It's indeed not good for every map though. KSG and Interchange don't mix.
      As for the knife...meh.

  • Sethdoom Novice 128 posts since
    Dec 15, 2011
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    Nov 24, 2012 8:27 PM (in response to yonasty99)
    Re: Shotguns, and knifing.

    ... shotguns balance the ACR, the MP7, the Type 95, and the FMG9. Removing them from the game would be an abomination. As for knifing, you have to have other options besides shooting or throwing a grenade, iw just needs to balance the knife out.

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