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otisman666 Master
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Dec 21, 2011 12:45 PM

Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

So I just found this forum and thought I would post a notice to the good folks at Beachhead.

 

Last night (12/20/11) there was a "Wicked Dominator" tournament.

 

This was a three (3) hour tournament which would produce about 12 games (averaging about 15 min a game + lobby time).  The top guys on the leaderboards are sitting at over 250+ caps.  Let's be realistic here, the winner averaged over 24+ caps a game and the rest of the clan averaged over 20+ caps per game.  While it is feasable to have the occasional "good game", but I'm sorry over a three hour period, getting 20+ caps per game is just not believable.

 

What actions are being taken here?  As a rule of thumb, anyone averaging over 13 caps per game should have the obligatory review done on the games they played.  Even worse, the replies from the clan are that of arrogance, where nobody is going to do anything about this and nothing can be done to them.

 

So my question, is anything being done about this, right now, right here?  For purposes of public notice would it be possible to keep this situation updated?  Use it as a test case so to speak.  Trust me, (since I am trusting you), I will work to publize your work here.

 

-Otisman

  • otisman666 Master
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    Dec 21, 2011 12:48 PM (in response to otisman666)
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    Additional question, when did this event start and when did it end.  It seems that there might be confusion here.  As the original posting of the event said 6pm Pacific - 9pm, but when the results were published, it appears that these times changed to 7:00pm to 10:00pm.  Which times were right?

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      Dec 21, 2011 1:23 PM (in response to otisman666)
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      Unfortunately you probably will not get answers to this.  Almost all of the contests just aren't worth entering because of these things.  All of us playing legitimately have no chance.  Quite frankly this is the reason I signed up for Elite to play in tournaments.  it is SO MADDENING that we never get a reaction regarding the cheating from anyone at Activision or Beachhead other than Bowling tweating they are banning people.  I want it to be shown how these people are cheating and who was cheating.  We need to know so we can be aware of what to watch for (for those that don't know).  Cheating has made a farse of Elite tournaments.  They better get it fixed or I certainly won't renew.

      • otisman666 Master
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        Dec 21, 2011 1:37 PM (in response to Lance2123)
        Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

        Renew?  I don't think it is unreasoable for folks to start asking for their $$ to be refunded.  Shortly (if I can get this process finalized), I will post a guide on how to go about getting a refund from Activision for Eltie:Pro.

      • fatalvisi0n Novice
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        Dec 21, 2011 1:38 PM (in response to Lance2123)
        Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

        I loathe anyone who uses an unfair advantage such as cheting, hacking, glitching, boosting, etc.

         

        And Call of Duty is plagued by these wortless excuses of life, but I have faith, and I hope I'm not wrong in this but a few weeks ago they had confirmed banning someone for 5000 days.

         

        I think the best we can do is to report these abuses in this forum like you have done.

        Theater mode is a great way as well I think to capture and report this abuse.

         

        But I also agree that if this abuse isnt looked into, these Competing Operations, which are a great addition to Elite, will be ruined.

         

        So here's hoping we can come here to report these abuses and trust that they will be reviewed and moderated and those who are found in violation will be removed from destroying this great part of Elite.

  • fatalvisi0n Novice
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    Dec 21, 2011 2:12 PM (in response to otisman666)
    Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

    I found this on the 1st page of this Sub Forum and thought it may answer your question to the cheating you have described

     

    this was posted by Beach Head

     

    There are a couple of things going on for cheating and boosting.

     

    1. Automatic banning and suspensions. IW has various systems which detect egregious cheating and those guys will get banned or suspended.

     

    2. Violation of the TOS. Our 24/7 team jumps into playlists during competitions and if they catch cheaters they will ban them on the spot.

     

    3. Competition verification. After an Operation is over, we go through all the possible winners and look at matches they were in, replay videos, and run them through a few tools for detecting collusion. This is an extensive process. If we feel confident that they are a cheater we will ban them or disqualify them. This takes time - make sure you check the Operation page after the verification is complete.

     

    4. Leaderboard checking. IW will look at leaderboards -- you'll notice that completely atrocious and obvious cheaters are usually eliminated quickly.

     

    If you feel like a cheater in an Operation has been missed, please use the live chat option. That gets you to a member of the 24/7 team immediately

  • otisman666 Master
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    Dec 26, 2011 11:36 AM (in response to otisman666)
    Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

    Just a heads up, I went back and checked the operation from my OP and indeed the leaderboards have been fixed.

     

    Maybe these Beachhead guys are listening.   Now it is my turn to keep my side of the deal. 

  • fatedtitan Expert
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    Dec 26, 2011 2:32 PM (in response to otisman666)
    Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

    Actually, this isn't very bad.  If you get a team of 6, you can control all three domination points, let someone on the other team take it, automatically kill them, and retake the point and keep going.  It's not boosting.  It's being a team.

    • Brutorious Apprentice
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      Dec 26, 2011 2:50 PM (in response to fatedtitan)
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      maybe not cheating, in the closest of terms, but very unethical.

    • otisman666 Master
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      Dec 27, 2011 9:02 AM (in response to fatedtitan)
      Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

      fatedtitan wrote:

       

      Actually, this isn't very bad.  If you get a team of 6, you can control all three domination points, let someone on the other team take it, automatically kill them, and retake the point and keep going.  It's not boosting.  It's being a team.

      We already do this, but it only works against scrubs.  If you get a semi organized team it begins to get a bit chaotic.  But nonetheless, getting a 3 cap in Dom is the only way to go. 

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        Jun 9, 2012 6:07 PM (in response to otisman666)
        Re: Elite Competition Boosters - Getting off w/o punishment

        No ur missing how it really goes clans are dropping friends in on the other teams. letting them retake those flags then the clan takes them back think about it randoms who stand next to u in tdm shotting at the sky who go 0 and 18 or more giving away ur position to the enemy. thats not right How about clans that have more than six in the same lobby? clan members playing clan members. Semi organized right , they thought this out. Beachheads not looking into the matchs or the friends lists? If they were why is it still happening? tell me this Beachhead? Anybody that plays the game knows the ratios to caps per game in a three hour period. 2033 caps no way and if beachhead checked the elite forum on the xbox other clans call out cheaters all the time   beachheads 24/7 teams really sugar coat it somemore? the xbox site is laggy this has been going on for how long now? o ya sense it first dropped!

        aim bots? multiple head shots with sniper rifles on the run shot guns that kill from across the map REALLY? where is the real idea. yes i know activision takes care of that right. anyway lets keep it real the game has its good moments and bad but u cant really get a grip on the boosters, hackers, and mods that are being used. so admit it? know i have to help u after i waited for u to get the site up and running to this point? Okay got it find the cheaters for u wait for u to determine if its real or not. so u can bane them for what 48 hours many of the guys u found doing the token glitch are still here and are still doing what they do finding new cheats and exploiting the compettions.Not to mention laughing at u guys. Thanks beach head ur doing a wonderful job can i rub ur back for u or hold ur purse? come on get the job done ur policing it right?

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