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You know, they screwed up the lag even more with this new patch they put out. Now instead of randomly having games that are mildly ok in between a bunch of insanely laggy ones, I just have even more insanely laggy ones all the time. I had a 2.5 k/d and a 3.6 w/l before the patch, and I've been playing for about 3 nights now and I can't remember maybe 2 or 3 games that I won, and I've struggled to break even on every single one. Of course it gives me players that are going like 2-30 and not planting any bombs or capping any flags.
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It sickens me that people look down on others who don't have top notch internet connections, either due to financial reason or just because there isn't anything available. You think that because you spend big bucks on your internet that you automatically deserve to have an advantage over those that don't? Put me on a lan against you elitests and you'd find that you'd have more trouble than you think. I've been able to do well in every CoD regardless of whatever connection I've had to use. I think the field should be even no matter what connection you have, that's the most fair way to play, wouldn't you agree? Oh wait, I guess not, you want all advantages on your side. Now, I don't think that you should have 1 or 2 second delay, that's not fair to anyone, don't get me wrong here. But you think I have an unfair advantage when a shotgun won't kill in 3 shots upclose or I can shoot basically a full clip from a smg or ar into someone and not have anything register? Please, get off your high horse.
First of all he is not asking for an advantage or implying that he should have an advantage because he has better internet. He is stating that he shouldn't be put at a disadvantage for having better internet which is exactly what is happening.
When I let my PS3 have access to full bandwidth the gaming experience is horrible on MW3. Any other game is fine. If I limit my bandwidth to 384Kbps upload my gaming experience is much better on MW3, not perfect but better.
I am tired of getting 8-10 hit markers on someone when all I can see is their head to have them kill me with 2 shots. Even on the kill cam they hit me 2 times! The latency issues are SO off that it looks like that player is cheating.
People are using lag switches to give themselves an advantage. Why would you code your game to make a bad connection have an advantage? You would want to code your game so that a bad connection, or lag switch, make it a bad experience for you. Would you want that?
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Until recent posts he indicated he thought he should have an advantage, aka mw2 host advantage as that's what he want's reimplemented. Since he says he is host almost all the time then he definitely is stating he wants and advantage. I agree, nobody should be at a disadvantage for having good internet, but neither should they be at an advantage. In a perfect world *lan environment* the only thing that would determine who's better would be the players ability, too bad we aren't all on fiber optic, that's as close as we'll get to lan play on such a large scale.
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You know, it's not the people's connections you are playing against you should get upset about. Most likely this is the same connection and way they've been playing every CoD they've gotten in the past, or maybe even a better connection.
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malditor wrote:
You know, it's not the people's connections you are playing against you should get upset about. Most likely this is the same connection and way they've been playing every CoD they've gotten in the past, or maybe even a better connection.
Yes and no.
To me there are a couple of issues. Just for the record I don't expect an advantage BUT Activision/IW are using MY connection to support their game, correct? If I am host that means my connection and PS3 are being used to support their game and I am not getting comensated for it. Well, I am if you consider a frustrating experience compensation. BUT there is something in their code that adjusts timing. They do not throttle your connection but they use code to offset the timing. This last patch they changed a value but the current value was 3, they needed to go to 1 but instead went to 5.Demonware also has to take some blame for their matchmaking. It is, to say the least, bad! I should not be in a room, as a solo player, with EU, South America or Mexico. I can understand a few Canadiens because I am in WI, but their connections are only a step above Mexico.

There are people that have bad connections, it is not all their fault. However there are people that do things intentionally to give them an advantage. Sometimes without intent. Wireless should not be allowed for online gaming. Sorry, I know cabling is hard for some, but it is not good for gaming! Especially shooters.
A lot could be solved by regions. This would be a VERY simple fix too. Give the US patch 2.01, EAU Patch 3.01 and so on. Patch 2.01 cannot play with Patch 3.01. But this is to easy and makes to much sense for IW to be able to accomplish.
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I wish I cared about a video game so much to dash every time I was losing...
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All good in theory, except there are people who have friends overseas and want to play with them. There should be an option for regional gameplay, no doubt about that.
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I got top notch interrnet,I pay for mine,Less than a hundred dollars that is not exspensive,what is exspensive 20.00 if it is,than u need to play with crapy people not with us,u cheap sh#t,that is what he's trying to say.This game MW3 it's always been this bad in connection.About MW3 it's been harder cause there is more of us with good internet playing games,and now their letting bad connection play with us which makes no sense cause their like always pushing their lag switches.MW3 can and always be hack due to idiots running the game,they know what to do to fix it but that will just open another door for bigger problems so they settle for a running game.MW3 crew are at a party right now,they don't care right now,they made their money already off of u,see u next year!
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A reply to esmorgue's reply to my reply... My attempt to make you seem less masculine is non existent. You pretty much made that part obvious when you made a thread about how much you dashboard. It's so cool that you take the easy way out and absolutely every one else in that match (on both teams) gets a loss for it.
I have lost a lot of interest in mw3 lately. It's not because of lag, or OP weapons. It's not because of campers, or noob tubers. It's because of people who take out their personal frustrations with this game on their fellow gamers. I swear to god every time I try to play this game I'm surrounded by totally idiots. All everyone wants to do on here is pad their stats, avoid objectives, or dashboard.
My point: This game sucks because of all the idiots who play it.
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Sad, you claim they don't care and that they are just out partying however they are constantly trying to tweak the system to make it better for all. I am sorry to hear that some people are having a lot of trouble with the game, as it is pretty damn good when it works well. For me, before any patches the game was awesome, then they patched it went to crap and has slowly gotten better with one or 2 patches regressing instead of progressing towards good connections. I'm with you guys that people should be grouped by region *if selected* or strictly by ping so that people are on a level playing field. As for lag switchers, well they have been playing these games and abusing that technique for much longer than just when MW3 came out. It isn't like you all are the only ones affected by poor netcoding either, just you feel more entitled due to your quality of internet.
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