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Narcosys Newbie 39 posts since
Dec 20, 2011
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Dec 20, 2011 12:39 PM

Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

I have noticed that all available operations that you can enlist in is based in the Core mode.  Combine this with the fact that all Game Type Leaderboards are only tracking CORE games and not Hardcore games, it gives the feeling that the Hardcore fan base is being alienated against.  Please post if you would like to see a change in Elite and start some Hardcore operations.  Also another suggestion to petition for is the fact that most Operations are not East coast friendly, meaning that almost all Operations are either very late at night or very early in the morning, there are few that are going on through out the day.  Thanks for your time and hope some Moderators and Elite programmers read this.

  • rankismet Master 11,138 posts since
    May 23, 2011
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    Dec 20, 2011 12:41 PM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    Been asking for this for a long time... 100% support.

     

    LBF@ranKismet

    So... @CallOfDutyElite any plans for HC operations? First two months - zip. Make 2012 #MOARhardcore.

    • Beachhead BeachheadDeveloper 550 posts since
      Dec 7, 2011
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      Dec 20, 2011 6:21 PM (in response to rankismet)
      Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

      We're starting to slowly ramp up what we do with Operations.

       

      Why haven't we done Hardcore Operations:

      Hardcore game modes are not as popular as other game modes. This means that we will run the risk of destabilizing the game if we drive everyone to a hardcore game mode due to an Operation. Our networking experts here have been hammering on this issue with an iron fist.

       

      We have Hardcore Operations ready to go, but we need to continue to run more basic Operations until we are certain that there is no risk to the game. We hear you. We want them too.

       

      Prizing:
      Those of you who have been keeping an eye on the Program Guide have noticed that we've started running prized Operations for small prizes, like hoodies or t-shirts. We'll be ramping up the types of prizes over the next couple of weeks.

       

      East Coast-friendly timing:

      Totally agree. I'll make sure that this happens.

      • Beachhead BeachheadDeveloper 550 posts since
        Dec 7, 2011
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        Dec 21, 2011 10:48 AM (in response to Beachhead)
        Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

        As promised, some of the upcoming Operations are now East-coast friendly.

      • james.chastain3 Novice 108 posts since
        Aug 22, 2011
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        Dec 21, 2011 12:40 PM (in response to Beachhead)
        Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

        Bullshit!! Liars and thieves to keep us on the ropes..

         

        If you idiotic ******** knew what you were doing in the first place everything would have been up and running 2 weeks after release.

         

        I have a Founder status and am sick and tired of all the bullshit lies.

         

        If I order a meal i expect it with in 15 to 20 minutes not 4 hours later. otherwise someone is going to lose their job!!!

        I spent 14 years in the Army and we had some issues every now and then but this goes beyond any FUBAR I had to deal with.

         

        Get head out of your ass and get the **** done!!!!

        • sirill Novice 360 posts since
          Jun 6, 2011
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          Dec 21, 2011 1:59 PM (in response to james.chastain3)
          Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

          I totally agree what did I pay an extra $50 dollars for exactly? Clan challenges, operations, and DLC.

           

          I understand the DLC not released untill it's out, but the main reason I paid for this service was clan and lone wolf ops.

           

          Hell elite didn't even work the first two weeks of release, I sing up for ops that disappear.

           

          As paying customers you have left us sorly disappointed.

           

          All hype and no delivery.

          • Beachhead BeachheadDeveloper 550 posts since
            Dec 7, 2011
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            Dec 21, 2011 5:13 PM (in response to sirill)
            Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

            Guys your gripes are legitimate. This has been some major FUBAR. Tell me: what's the most important thing for you right now?

            • accursdevenom Newbie 50 posts since
              Aug 2, 2011
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              Dec 21, 2011 9:07 PM (in response to Beachhead)
              Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

              I have to agree with everything that has been said in this thread so far. We need....demand....clan ops. There are more players in the hardcore playlists than you apparently realize, so we require HC lone wolf ops. I only ever play core to get to 19 (which is a dumb idea to unlock HC to begin with) and then move on to HCTDM.

               

              I saw mobile apps are in final submission (early january is nothing short of weak), but what about the damn price? How much, if anything am I going to have to pay to get elite on my Windows Phone 7? Premium members shouldn't have to pay another fee for something we already pay for either.

               

              These are the things that are most important and should already have been done.

      • Cable99 Master 11,905 posts since
        Sep 29, 2011
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        Dec 21, 2011 1:20 PM (in response to Beachhead)
        Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

        Hammer harder please.

      • INFINE Calculating status... 1 posts since
        Nov 26, 2011
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        Jan 7, 2012 6:58 AM (in response to Beachhead)
        Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

        Yes guys i am an elite premium founder and i live in Australia. My gamer name is Infinemorte  and i just wanted to let you guys know i am strugling to compete at 4:am in the morning

    • InSaNiTy_TriCky Calculating status... 1 posts since
      Jun 20, 2012
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      Jun 20, 2012 9:20 AM (in response to rankismet)
      Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

      can someone send me an invite i don't know how to join clans on the computer, so may someone please invite on xbox360?

  • iiiredbeariii Novice 250 posts since
    Aug 23, 2011
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:21 PM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    Hey Beachhead, you will be "humbled" by the amount of people that play hardcore who actually use Elite Operations. You say the majority of players prefer Core, but take into account that majority is not filtering people who actually use the Elite service. Most Hardcore, especially HC SnD players are Elite members who are more "hardcore" when it comes to COD. I would bet that the people who actually participate in your Ops would prefer to play them in HC modes. Think outside the box guys.

    • Beachhead BeachheadDeveloper 550 posts since
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      Dec 21, 2011 5:20 PM (in response to iiiredbeariii)
      Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

      iiiredbeariii -- Your comments are fair and you deserve a specific response. Here goes:

       

      Let me give you some insight into how an Operation occurs.

       

      We have a "Live Operations" team that generates a calendar. These are all the Operations they would like to run for the next 2-3 weeks with prizing, etc. Then a number of folks get to approve and give input on the calendar including Beachhead, IW, and network ops guys.

       

      Up until a little while ago, the Beachhead perspective was "NO OPERATIONS UNTIL WE ARE STABLE" -- we've backed away from that point of view as things have stabilized. Our attitude is now "ramp up slowly, more variety, more prized Operations please, we need to refine our cheating direction."

       

      IW's perspective is focused on the game. They want to ensure that Operations do not impact game balance. Our network guys are the ones most concerned about things like Hardcore Operations. They spend a lot of time balancing the back end and if everyone started playing Hardcore one day it would be bad for stability of MW3. These guys have the final veto -- if they object we do not move forward.

       

      We've seen a lot of support for Hardcore Operations here. I've asked the guys to let me know when they will be comfortable running these. I'll let you know when we have an answer.


      Beachhead

    • Brutorious Apprentice 552 posts since
      Dec 5, 2011
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      Dec 26, 2011 10:38 AM (in response to iiiredbeariii)
      Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

      iiiredbeariii wrote:

       

      Most Hardcore, especially HC SnD players are Elite members who are more "hardcore" when it comes to COD.

       

       

      I take great exception to this, and would beg to differ. unless of course by "hardcore" you mean crouched in the corner waiting for people to run past. I just dont see it. Maybe its just from my prospective, but most people i see spend more time on core mode, to enjoy all the features of the game.

  • iiiredbeariii Novice 250 posts since
    Aug 23, 2011
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    Dec 22, 2011 7:12 AM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    Like its said above, can you run them at the same time? Have a HC Op while running the same Core Ops.

  • vinsearl Calculating status... 4 posts since
    Nov 14, 2011
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    Dec 23, 2011 11:55 AM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    i totally agree sort hc operations out core is for whimps

  • Newbie 92 posts since
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    Dec 26, 2011 9:30 AM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    i see why they cant but again this is what me and my friends list really want!

     

    make it east coast night time mid week like a 9-12 that would be incredible

  • Beachhead BeachheadDeveloper 550 posts since
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    Dec 26, 2011 10:19 AM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    The points about HC Operations are pretty valid, although I appreciate that you guys as HC fans are respectful about the need for staggered roll out for Operations.

     

    Next week, as the Operation calendar is finalized, I've requested that the team add some HC Operations in for the next couple of weeks in January. If the answer is "No" for some reason, I will let you know why and next steps.

     

    We've heard the request for East Coast timimg -- hope you guys have already noticed some changes in that regard. Note: a seperate team manages the European calendar, if we have any UK or Germany guys on the boards, please let us know how that's working for you.


    Beachhead

    • Newbie 6 posts since
      Aug 17, 2011
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      Jan 4, 2012 10:53 AM (in response to Beachhead)
      Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

      beachhead thanks for the great reply there are alot of hardcore players who are waiting for the ops and events and they were advertised in the beta cos i have 3 gold and a silver and im waiting to rack up some more so thanks for the knowledge of knowing my money was not wasted on elite cos i had to stand in a que for and hour in the rain waiting so icould get that founder status lol but thanks again for the responce

  • Brutorious Apprentice 552 posts since
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    Jan 7, 2012 8:57 AM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    looks like there are HDC TDM events. so now everyone can stop crying. you can delete this thread now.

    • realjoker Novice 274 posts since
      Jun 6, 2011
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      Jan 7, 2012 4:43 PM (in response to Brutorious)
      Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

      Beachhead hardcore or core it does not matter i will still win but Beachhead i am from the UK but the problem is that i cannot play on the same operation as some of my clan members. I have brought this issue up everytime. just restore the operation back to it's previous state where everyone can compete together and just create different times on different days for the operation so that it does not matter what country you are in you will still get a chance to play and also to play with your friends in other countries.

       

      Also the same for clan operations. Almost every clan has a member from a different country or region. You can't exactly expect clan operations to be like lone wolf operations. It will never work.

  • tallowby Expert 780 posts since
    Sep 14, 2011
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    Feb 23, 2012 10:54 AM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    A possible solution is posted in this thread.

     

    http://community.callofduty.com/thread/200402579

  • HJCJonathan1 Calculating status... 22 posts since
    May 24, 2012
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    Jun 20, 2012 9:04 PM (in response to Narcosys)
    Re: Petition for Elite Hardcore Operations

    More Hardcore Ops, and more variety of ops period!

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