Dec 13, 2011 10:09 AM
So, you dont like ASSASSIN or CAMPING...
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I've had enough of these threads talking about altering assassin, and complaining about how camping ruins the game. So, as a sometimes Camper (and proud to make ppl angry by owning them) im here to give away the big SECRETS of how to beat us! Fellow campers do not fret, because im sure these "heroes" wont take my advice because it wont get them huge kill totals from their killstreaks!
First and foremost, the Campers worst nightmare: The Recon Drone. As a faithful Assassin user, I run in fear from these things whenever they get close. I don't care where im hiding, I sprint away! After you are tagged, its certain death!
Next, use Recon pro. Sure you'll have to stop dumping all your ammo with scavenger, and take actual cover to reload without SOH... BUT anybody you shoot at least once you are almost guaranteed to get an assist. It also works quite well with hardline which im sure you're using to get your precious attack helicopter more swiftly. But there is more good news! If you wound a guy, and he rounds a corner to hide, or takes cover behind a dumpster, you will be able to see exactly where he is and where he's pointing. So there goes that "b!tch" move...
Also, you might want to pay attention to where your teammates are... because you can observe where they are DYING. Chances are, there is an assassin camper with a silenced weapon somewhere in that vicinity. Also, you probably shouldn't run right over there the same way your mate just died, because, you guessed it! The camper is probably STILL there waiting for another poor unsuspecting hero to shoot!
Finally, if you get killed by one of those rotten no good campers, odds are that he will be in that same spot when you respawn! So it might be a good idea to take an alternate route if you want revenge! And chances are good that he'll be back there sometime later in the game, so you may want to exercise caution when approaching that area; and possibly throw a flashbang because we all know roaches don't like light.
A couple other suggestions: use Semtex, use smoke to cloud your entrance, listen for suppressed gunfire, sit rep pro you can hear them up in a building moving around, noob tubes w Recon is great to find them.
Above all, my beloved rushing heroes, who so valiantly race ahead to steal all the kills... remember the Recon Drone!
I hope this post helps you get to those coveted pavelows, ac130s, and osprey gunners!
people like heartbeat sensors, i like assassin, rushers like extreme conditioning i like noob tubing them. Its all about style and counter style, but i do believe rushers are the biggest whiners.
I agree. Whether you're on a forum or in a lobby rushers do nothing but complain about everything. And to the OP, damn you for giving away our weaknesses
Good advice Cap'n, the recon pro tactic is very good and the simple act of discovering fallen teammates is detrimental to the location of the enemy. I'm not a fan of the toy helicopter but it is effective.
The skulls have to be the most overlooked aspect of the game. I can't tell you how many times I get kills because of them. Not to mention you get revenge xp
Ghamorra, don't worry they wont do it! Why do u think they want everything nerfed and changed? So they can play exactly the way they do and not have to give up anything! They don't want to change their perks to Recon. Likewise they will stick with the same old 5-7-9/12/17 killstreak so they can get 30+ kills a game. Nevermind the high deaths that come with that in MOST games. I can give these secrets and it will NEVER affect us lmao. I know u were joking, but I wanted to make this point. Its SOH/SCAVENGER, HARDLINE, STALKER all day for them.
Izjar I use Recon all day bro, and lately I've been on a Recon Drone kick. Add me my psn is the same as the forum name. I've almost got my motion sensor unlocked too so picture this...
Recon pro
Portable radar
Recon Drone
Advanced uav
EMP
LMAO I'll be the intelligence officer!
Dont forget to add how much XP comes along with using the Recon Drone.
I top 4k easy in TDM when I use that setup and I usually only use it when there are several campers on the other team.
Absolutely right but also remember to use it only when you have a decent team! I can't tell you how pissed I've gotten having 5 ppl tagged only to fly around and play w myself in that copter because none of them are respawning so I can tag them again. Seriously I've had games playing solo that I've gotten two assists! Meanwhile my body is getting killed lol.
Fix the lag comp and none of you camping fools will have a chance against me.
Single campers are easy to deal with, it's when people work in tandem, one watching the others back. Either using hearbeat sensor or portable uav. Certain maps are impossible to break a team of campers out of, arkaden is horrible, just played agains a team where 4 people were camping the top while 2 people were roaming. I could get in there and take out 2 or 3 campers but then I'd die to either another camper or one of the people who actually moved. Of course it didn't help that my team was totally inept on top of all this. I like the recon drone, but haven't you noticed, even if that dot it puts on the map is plainly visible to all it's rare to see anyone shoot them. Hell, I've ended up tagging the entire team and shooting them myself after the drone was done.... Even if you have the campers marked via whatever method if they are head glitching they can still take out anyone coming. And if they are using specialist and have gotten the 7/8 kills to get all perks forget about it. ROFL
My advice in that situation is do one of two things: 1) play stealth and stay away from where they're camping, silently picking off the two roamers---if 4 are camping then the spawn wont switch easily so it will be easy to trap the roamers by just switching corners along their routes.
2) switch to a sniper class and pick off the campers from afar. There are always lines of sight to the best camp spots in EVERY map. I know this because I sniped for an entire prestige, and was forced to learn the sight lines.
The maps are all designed to have points of entry, either up close, or from across the map.
Campers are some of the smartest players.
1) Campers know the maps extremely well and how traffic flows and changes
2) Campers have no problem taking out other campers. They understand every play style
3) They can rush when need be, might not be the best but they understand how that style works
4) They can use almost any gun
5) A good camper is never predicatable and sometimes you can't tell they're camping. They know multiple spots on a map and are three steps ahead of you
It helps to know where the respawn points are too
yet another vid ![]()
Lmao X3! That music made it even funnier! Can u please tell me how you recorded that? I do that stuff all the time too.
@ captain JO, actually i found that track on youtube and just added it in the video editor.
to ghamorra:
I don't know about giving campers the credit of being "smartest players" award, it doesn't take much to sit back and wait, and wait and wait. But your right there are better ones out there that exploit certain spots to win, and thats fine. I don't have issues with campers, I get killed by some, others I enjoy getting the payback kill. The truth is the fool who rushes about absent thought of kill / death is a fool who wishes to lose the game.
LOL camp all you want you'll still get wrecked by anyone with a tiny bit of skill
excellent post bro. i feel exposed right now. the problem with most players is they want a end all perk. alot of players don't "think" they simpily just run around shooting at anything that moves. this game needs a few tweaks here and there but those are minor. everything has a counter class, perk or killstreak. it takes just a little bit of out thinking your enemy in this game to win.
That's true. I just got tired of all the complaining w no solutions; one of my pet peeves. So I decided to give some solutions and maybe reduce the whining thread a little. Here's hoping lol
People will always complain about others camping, and 90% of the time it is totally unjustified. It has become a term used more as an excuse for being killed. Also the killcam only shows 2 seconds before the kill, if there is a red dot on the map moving towards where I am of course I am going to raise my sights and point to the corner where he is about to appear. It will look to him as though I was sat there waiting. If I get hate mail calling me a camper I say, watch the match from my perspective in theatre and come back to me if you still think so. They never come back and sometimes they even say sorry.
Your tips to put the camper in their place are good, but really are there that many sit in the same spot all the time campers? I don't see that many and I play a lot more than average time wise.
Yeah, campers are definitely a lower species. I don't get the appeal of camping. Sure, your k/d may improve, but man, I really don't get a lot of pleasure out of it. Whatever, different strokes and all that; it's not like we're ever getting rid of them.
Enjoyable read, the light heartedness of it made me chuckle, so i gave you a like for it lol.
Personally I love campers, they are easy as hell to kill in this game when they sit in the same spot EVERY single time, also a lot of the campers I've seen have the worst K/D ratios in the lobby in TDM so I just find it funny. You would think after they get killed 3-4 times going to the same spot they would mix it up, but no, it's hilarious.
Campers are easy to kill, but only after you've paid the price of them ruining a streak; that's the really annoying part. It's not like the same camper is going to get the best of a decent rusher time and time again, but that one cheap kill is frustrating as hell.
"Check your corners!" some say.
I say, STFU! Lol.
That's why I use Blind Eye, Assasin, and Silent Footsteps with my UMP stealth class, they don't see my coming. After you play TDM enough you see patterns of where people go depending on the players on each team. Most of your teams have 1-2 good players who play patiently and do well while the other 3-4 are just sheep who run aronud the map and blast right into choke poitns and die, just watch for their skulls and find out where the campers are, lol.
That's all great advice. And excellent points esp about the killcam only being 2sec and ppl using "camper" as an excuse for dying. And thanks for the compliment above dkb, I tried to keep it light and still have some legit advice too. Im by all means NOT against rushers, I love rushing. But I also love camping, and believe that learning to camp made me better at rushing. I'm glad we have an "anti camper" thread and everybody is showing respect, apart from that ridiculous assertion that "campers are a lower species" lol.
Who made that ridiculous assertion!!!? That's it!! OK, I'll hold him down and you beat the Sh!t out of him!!!
Lol pretty slick how u slipped that one in! You're gonna love my new thread tomorrow... gonna be called "tips to get better at camping" lmao stay awaaaaaay from there!
I love Assassin for flanking / playing dead and killing blind rushers & for not being so visible to marksman campers long range. I dislike people camping for kills ignoring the objective to inflate their generally meaningless k/d, specially in objective game modes.
I don't understand how people enjoy playing tdm constantly, it's so slow paced even on the small maps, too many camping douches all trying to inflate their ego in a video game. Fun to occasionally get them out of their nest, pure frustration on the long range, Rushers should be playing dom or kill confirmed mainly anyway. When you bi-tch about people camping in tdm, your in basic bitching about something that is necessary for talentless players to get kills when that is the only objective, next to having a high spm.
I myself don't hate good defensive players, they are annoying but challenging to play as well, it's the corner hugging douches that should get hate & people that only killframe in objective game modes, by playing defensively or not.\
In objective game mode you basically need to be a good active all-rounder imo
Excellent post.
Gotta hate them campers!! Would love to see a game of 6v6 with campers and the time run out with no score. You lot are totally reliant on other peoples gameplay style to have your own.
Personally i think the way you play the game is a good example of the kind of underhanded sneaky jippo you probably are in real life. Not to be trusted.
Ps. this is ADS campers NOT defenders.
I dont have a 'camper' class and i dont bother using assassin etc, but I resort to camping sometimes, especially if im having a very poor game, Mainly on dome, hate that map so I just tend to stay around the same area with some decent cover and ride it out.
I also love the PSN abuse that comes with it.... haha
I have solved the "Using Recon(pro) means I cannot use scavenger or SOH" problem.
Use the specialist package. I have 4 perks on my 1st kill/capture.
yeah but then you cannot get air support...
Campers aren't smart.. you're boring.
I toob campers relentlessly; mostly by sneaking up on them and direct impacting them.
And if we're playing against a team of campers we'll camp harder than they do once we have the lead (think HiddenMasters kind of camping). What's funny is then the campers cry and cry about what a dumb and boring game just took place 'cuz we out camped the fools who don't dare to walk upright in a game.
Campers make me play kill confirmed. I enjoy watching them try to camp when the dogtags are giving them away and I get to steal their cheap kills back. Good fun really.
I thought kill confirmed was supposed to be the least campy game mode in any COD game so far? I've seen people staring at a doorway with at least 5 dogtags in it, not even trying to get them but still waiting, so I jumped to prone through the door, denied the kills and dropshotted the camper =P
About your story, it's true people should stop complaining. Camping will be in every COD game, and however I think it's super boring and it makes games slow paced, a lot of people seem to like it... Adapt or GTFO. Most campers aren't even that hard to kill, unless multiple experienced players guard a room. But you don't come across teams like that too often. And people complaining about assassin: That's really stupid... So you get a 3(!!) killstreaks ( or even a 4 point streak you can get in multiple lifes) and you expect it to do all the work for you? If you know the spawns, if you know where your teammates are, if you pay attention to your surroundings and NOT the mini map all the time, assassin users might not kill you as often. I use assassin myself sometimes, as a rusher don't worry, because I don't want my flank or rush to be ruined by a killstreak that's so super easy to get...
Another tip for people who get killed by campers a lot, try using a higher sensitivity (above 3 or 4), most of these campers really can't aim so if you react fast you can turn on them, which makes you feel really good and makes him feel embarrassed =D
Campers can't really aim? Don't overestimate a campers aim. Turning your sensetivity up is a player move, not a end all be all to campers.
Have you never seen someone sitting in a corner, he hits you once, you turn around and kill him and you think: dang that guy sucks he should have killed me.. Happens a lot to me. Not every camper sucks of course, but only like 5% of the campers camp because of tactical reasons, and 95% of the campers camp because they are new at the game and they don't feel like dieing over and over...
i used to camp when i was trying to get every killstreak emblem by getting that curtain killstreak. (high killstreak rewards like reaper or juggernaut) i stopped camping after i got the assault juggernaut emblem which was my last killstreak emblem to get excluding ospray gunner.
or u can run advanced uav with recon show, i run this this will most likely help ur team get kills they will show up with the way thier facing like Blackbird try it out n add me KillerBoy9900 if u want to play some games together
In my opinion assasin is a good perk but like its kind of more powerful than like 80-95% of the others. It shouldnt be allowed to counter marksman... especially when a whole party uses the usual blind eye assasin stalker/dead silence with a silenced AC-R/ SMG. I got recon pro myself and yea its effective especially in dome where you can just chuck a flash tthe other side and the whole team lights up but that still dosent change the fact that you still cant see the assasin user unless you shoot them and they have to be visible and dosent change the fact that they still come up behind you suddenly. I dont wanna hear the use your eyes and ears crap cause clearly I do if I play this game. All Im saying is maybe the perk is just abit too good as its usually picked more than quickdraw, blast shield, overkill. Hardline is usually on par with it though.
In my opinion assasin is a good perk but like its kind of more powerful than like 80-95% of the others. It shouldnt be allowed to counter marksman... especially when a whole party uses the usual blind eye assasin stalker/dead silence with a silenced AC-R/ SMG. I got recon pro myself and yea its effective especially in dome where you can just chuck a flash tthe other side and the whole team lights up but that still dosent change the fact that you still cant see the assasin user unless you shoot them and they have to be visible and dosent change the fact that they still come up behind you suddenly. I dont wanna hear the use your eyes and ears crap cause clearly I do if I play this game. All Im saying is maybe the perk is just abit too good as its usually picked more than quickdraw, blast shield, overkill. Hardline is usually on par with it though.
I don't agree with people complaining about Assassain (They're all a bunch of red-dot chasers that don't know how to use their eyes to find people on their screen).
But I do agree with them complaining about campers,and I mean the HARDCORE campers.Ones that sit in the corner or sit in 1 room the ENTIRE game. I understand if people are new at the game, I get that, What I don't get it when I do get killed by a camper, 98% of the time they have a gold gun! So they must be adequetly skilled at the game, that's when I start getting pissed off.
The problem is that you are not "un-killable" on the contrary campers are easy to predict and murder with the proper use of explosives and bullet penetration or even alternate routes. As far as assassin goes, its annoying as hell but not OP because people move so predictably around the maps now.
The problem is that you create a GIANT ******* ROADBLOCK on the map that slows the game way down and turns CoD from being a fun fast paced shooter we can use for random acts of pointless violence to a chess match. If I want chess I'll go play Starcraft or BF3.
COD IS NOT FUN FOR TACTICAL PLAY!!!
I can and will do it, but its contrary to the whole point of the game.