It'd be nice if K/D's weren't so easily skewed by game-mode, lag comp, and dashboarding.

If the 0.8 K/D guy actively tried capping flags in dom rather than going for a super elite-ima-champ K/D's, I'd rather have the 0.8 player.  Every Time.

rushallday wrote:

 

Tons of people  are trying to think of excuses to what makes the best player instead of his/her KDR.

 

It is K/D and here is why...

 

Simple, take a player with a 0.80 KDR and have him 1v1 a player with a 3.50 KDR. The lower KD player is going to get destroyed.... sorry, it's the truth... Nuff said.

Lol 1v1s prove nothing.

I'll be honest I'm not a great player but back in blops a guy challenged me after a game of TDM so I took him up on it for a bit of fun. His kd was over 3, mine below 1, he left the game when I was 13-2.!! Just because your k/d is high doesn't mean your a beast every game. Good player have bad games too.

K/D is irrelevant in objective game modes.

Our team comprises of K/D from 0.5 to 1.5 K/D and we can stomp on high K/D teams as our main objective to cap flags, not go for a high individual scores

Sure, if you generally play TDM/FFA, then yes, K/D does have a place in those game modes

@davidlsofferman

xcal speaks the truth

If you ONLY play FFA the K:D is everything and then yes, you can judge yourself against others using it and to a lesser extent TDM (to a point) but in any other game it's meaningless.  My friend plays Domination and he's a class player at it, far better than me and he constantly wins because he's very objective orientated, his K:D is good but it isn't great because he doesn't waste his time running around trying to kill people.

Usually when I play TDM, I check the lobby leaderboard and whoever has the highest K/d ratio becomes my target (if it's not me- mine is 1.74). I like to try and go after the 2-3+ K/D people to see if they are as good as the ratio indicates. I usually succeed at keeping them from getting killstreaks unless I have awful teammates. Often they leave the lobby after a game or two or if i do a really good job they just rage quit lol.

How can people say K/d doesnt mean anything. You can camp in dom and not take flags but you still have to find people, kill them and not die. Its hard to keep a consistant 2+ k/d and I still havent gotten my k/d back up to 2 after a really terrible month. Its hard to keep it there and it is a good indication of skill. W/l in this game is pointless. I cant even count how many times i go into a game and lose because i have no teammates or they are just awful. Plus you can come into a game in the middle or end when your team is already getting crushed. If this was halo, W/l would be a good indication of skill.

also those saying you have to cap flags in dom to actually be doing something are wrong.  If you have somebody on your team destroying the other team, it makes it much much much easier to cap flags. Defends are also just as important which many people also seem to forget.  Ideally in a party playing dom you want a few guys killing everything (the better players) and a few guys taking points while they make sure they dont get killed

Only in tdm you must be one of those that troll other game types to I prove your kd by not playing objective tried dz once without killing anyone and with zero kills got top score . In Dom they try to justify that you need campers who don't do objective I only agree if you have 2 flags and the lead otherwise your dead unhelpful weight. I have nothing against camping I myself like to camp kill move quite a bit but I play the objective. Kc you gave go neg and get the most confirms easy. And I agree 1v1 a 3.0 vs 1.0 the 3.0 will win because the 1.0 is looking for the objective and on the move where the 3.0 is hiding and happy with 6-1 win and rarely closing out a match due to time running out. Just saying the are several sides to that argument and I have no issue with any playing style except cheaters hacks and boosters otherwise I may not like all playing styles but it's just part of the game just like those that don't like mine. So grab a tissue deal with it and no kd is not the basis for the best player. Unless its tdm.

If you have a player with a "high" kdr that plays solo a lot in killed based game modes, then you probably have a player that is relatively good at the game. However, if you have a guy that mostly runs in parties and has a "high" kdr, then you most likely have an average player.

The problem you guys have with high kdr players in objective games like dom or ctf is that you are misreading a lot of them. I can and do run up high kdr's in those games. I can and do run up "high" kill counts. But it is not because I'm playing tdm in the wrong lobby.

I don't care how many kills I get. I don't care if I win my holding two flags or three. In fact, I'd prefer to just hold two flags. I'm so paranoid about holding my flags that I don't even want the opposing team near the flag. So if I can score a kill before that player gets to the flag, I most certainly will do so.

That all results in fewer flag captures but more wins. Who cares if I only get 4 caps in a game if that's the highest number of caps on my team plus my team wins?

If a flag is ripe for taking, I'm going to cap it. But I'm not going to jump on that flag while four opponents have it locked down. Not going to happen from me. I'll kill the four opponents and then try to cap it, sure.

More important than caps is the win. I want two flag caps. A and B. If I have to recap a flag I get ticked off. I don't like giving up flags. Too hard to earn them.