The farther away I am from someone, the more lag I'll have? INTERDASTING

"maccabi wrote: some stuff worth remembering but meh"

Sorry Mac, but I have to disagree. The first video alone is hugely significant because it proves that there is no creditability to the COD Multiplayer, let alone k/d ratio’s, skills, etc… This is the very thing the new “Elite” app is pushing - stats and competition. It’s no longer who is better or more skilled but instead, who is luckier at matchmaking. It’s kind of disappointing to a hardcore gamer. It’s like going to a football game and the coin toss determines who wins and then it’s over - not very fun, no way to improve or truly measure your performance… no need for Elite.

All I see is a huge opening gap for a studio to swoop up all the hardcore gamers with a new technology that guarantees credible multiplayer experience where your true performance is accurately measured and matched against other players with similar skill. Something the COD franchise seems to trick you into thinking they are doing- when in fact they are not. It’s an illusion and the bases for Activision’s cash cow.

Pay no attention to the Lag Comp behind the curtain…

djtn wrote:

 

"maccabi wrote: some stuff worth remembering but meh"

 

Sorry Mac, but I have to disagree. The first video alone is hugely significant because it proves that there is no creditability to the COD Multiplayer, let alone k/d ratio’s, skills, etc… T

 

Pay no attention to the Lag Comp behind the curtain…

No thats what i was talking about, muzzle flashes are client side animations they have no relation to latency/lag or any other network/internet thing past the delay in you pressing the trigger to seeing them on screen, same as bullets and bullet holes.

what you have to remember in cod games is there is no actual bullets, nothing is fired from your gun any indication you see of bullets is nothing more than a CLIENT side animation.

If i press my trigger on my contoller i see muzzle flashes, if i can see someone on my screen and they press fire.. when they update the host who then updates the players MY xbox will add a muzzle flash to the character model of that other player. when the host tells my xbox that that player is firing in relation to MY OWN TIME STREAM (you have to remember no ones games are in sync everyone plays from a rewound gamestate)

i really dont understand why they have tried to muddy the waters with the whole fps thing it just adds to peoples confusions.

all that first video demostrates is something which everyone knows killcams/theatre dont show what happens on your screen, nothing new there.

I hate these type of "videos" they just feed into peoples own misconceptions.

sorry but all that article does is basically say distance = latency ..nothing new there

and in relation to cod killcams/theatre arent your view in your timeframe. again nothing new.

the problem is with these types of videos is they show exactly how lag comp is supposed to work, the problem is people dont like that

Makes for very interesting conundrum from a legal perspective.

djtn wrote:

 

I understand your point Mac but regardless of what the theater or kill cam shows, they're complete inconsistencies of what happened or more so, what was seen by each player in real time on their screen. The one guy is clearly shooting first on his screen and on the other guys screen the enemy never shot a bullet, with the kill going to him. How can you determine a winner? Better yet, how can you sell an app (Elite) based off stats and competition which again, are nothing more than determining who was luckier at matchmaking?

 

It doesn’t seem fair or creditable which brings me to my point. COD is a game of who is luckier at the mercy of matchmaking. Skill plays a VERY small role. COD is not legitimate or credible. It’s an inconsistent measurement of actual events, with the winner being lucky with a better connection to the host (or lower lag compensation). K / d, win / loss, all the data is bogus due to its inaccuracy and validity.

ok hypothetical remove the lag comp and you will see EXACTLY the same thing due to the lowest ping wins point,actually no it will be worse as you wont even see the guy who killed you most times you will be running them just dead thats what latency does to a online game thats based on pure pings on consoles.

I totally agree with you on elite its pile of badly coded unsecured exploitable trash and your point about competition is fair but then seeing as elite doesnt work anyways its moot

but the same point applies without lag comp the lowest ping would win everything and that isnt fair either.

Slightly controversial viewpoint on these forums but i would rather play with lag comp on consoles than without