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  • rankismet Master 11,141 posts since
    May 23, 2011

    manbearpig862 wrote:

     

    What is one advantage the mp5 has over the pp90?

     

    The pp90 has a much higher rof, has a larger clip, is much more accurate, and kill enemies at same time rate as the mp5 at long range, but being much more accurate, it still has a large advantage over the mp5 at long range, what am I missing?

     

    The weapon balancing for cod is a joke, either people don't care or they just don't know what they are doing, which one is it?

     

    Considering neither are the best SMG... balance seems to be okay.

     

    Jeebus.

  • Moopus Novice 110 posts since
    Apr 4, 2012

    xtorchxstangx wrote:

     

    Dude shotguns are easymode , I got 1000 kills with the usas12 in just a couple days , I hardly ever use shot guns.

    Stop.

     

    People like you have basically ruined any chance of getting the manual-actions buffed. The USAS-12 and Striker are fine. They're balanced, and usable. Yet you come here and say shotguns are "easy mode", when you've only used the best one. The USAS and Striker are the only shotguns with good stats. All of the manual actions (and the AA-12) are horribly under-powered. It's very hard to go positive with an AA-12.  I can't stand you people. Use a shotgun, and somehow, put up the gigantic amounts of crap thats imminent.

  • ILikeLaglessGames Apprentice 182 posts since
    Mar 21, 2012

    Balance?  Right.  The ACR is totally balanced, the MP7 is balanced, the PM-9 is balanced, the MP5 is balanced, the Dragunov is balanced.  You're right.  Everything is balanced.

  • Moopus Novice 110 posts since
    Apr 4, 2012

    rankismet wrote:

     

    manbearpig862 wrote:

     

    What is one advantage the mp5 has over the pp90?

     

    The pp90 has a much higher rof, has a larger clip, is much more accurate, and kill enemies at same time rate as the mp5 at long range, but being much more accurate, it still has a large advantage over the mp5 at long range, what am I missing?

     

    The weapon balancing for cod is a joke, either people don't care or they just don't know what they are doing, which one is it?

     

    Considering neither are the best SMG... balance seems to be okay.

     

    Jeebus.

     

    PP90 > All others

     

    PP90 with Rapid Fire will dominate the MP7 in almost every situation, excluding long range. It's TTK is crazy, and it's RoF and clip are generous.

  • Elricco Novice 114 posts since
    Dec 27, 2011

    I just played this game, i confirm that the spawn system is totally broken, how we could say the contrary...i played ffa mode (cause in a party it's unplayable at the moment...), and i very often respawn sometimes just behind or with an other character in the same time, on dome it's laughable.

    After six month trying to understand what is wrong with this game, i have to say this thread help me to see clearly in particular for the lag issue (thanks maccabi), two things have to be fixed, the spawn system and the matchmaking.

    I hope the matchmaking it's on the good way, but Ghandi have you worked on spawn system yet, in order to improve it ?

  • rankismet Master 11,141 posts since
    May 23, 2011
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    8,780. May 1, 2012 1:12 PM (in response to Moopus)
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

    Moopus wrote:

     

    rankismet wrote:

     

    manbearpig862 wrote:

     

    What is one advantage the mp5 has over the pp90?

     

    The pp90 has a much higher rof, has a larger clip, is much more accurate, and kill enemies at same time rate as the mp5 at long range, but being much more accurate, it still has a large advantage over the mp5 at long range, what am I missing?

     

    The weapon balancing for cod is a joke, either people don't care or they just don't know what they are doing, which one is it?

     

    Considering neither are the best SMG... balance seems to be okay.

     

    Jeebus.

     

    PP90 > All others

     

    PP90 with Rapid Fire will dominate the MP7 in almost every situation, excluding long range. It's TTK is crazy, and it's RoF and clip are generous.

     

    Best SMG =/= PP90.

     

    #justsayin

  • K1ller_911 Apprentice 380 posts since
    Jan 18, 2012

    Nope that's the first I've heard of that happening ;) maybe its all in your head

  • Moopus Novice 110 posts since
    Apr 4, 2012

    rankismet wrote:

     

    Best SMG =/= PP90.

     

    #justsayin

     

    PP90 == Best SMG, no doubt.

  • Novice 76 posts since
    Jan 29, 2012

    rankismet wrote:

     

    Moopus wrote:

     

    rankismet wrote:

     

    manbearpig862 wrote:

     

    What is one advantage the mp5 has over the pp90?

     

    The pp90 has a much higher rof, has a larger clip, is much more accurate, and kill enemies at same time rate as the mp5 at long range, but being much more accurate, it still has a large advantage over the mp5 at long range, what am I missing?

     

    The weapon balancing for cod is a joke, either people don't care or they just don't know what they are doing, which one is it?

     

    Considering neither are the best SMG... balance seems to be okay.

     

    Jeebus.

     

    PP90 > All others

     

    PP90 with Rapid Fire will dominate the MP7 in almost every situation, excluding long range. It's TTK is crazy, and it's RoF and clip are generous.

     

    Best SMG =/= PP90.

     

    #justsayin

     

    PP90 is hands down the best for TTK in close quarters situations, for mid range there's the UMP and P90 and for long range there's the MP7. So if you're full on rushing go for a PP, if you're rushing but being defensive too then go for a UMP or P90 and for a sniper rifle go for the MP7.

  • bubbacake Expert 590 posts since
    Dec 25, 2011

    OK, IW. You had it your way. Shotguns are rubbish and will remain rubbish until the end of time.

     

    However, what you have failed to provide is your team's reasons for not buffing them.

     

    Despite the players having given you statistics, video evidence, suggestions, etc. Yet they decide to not buff them and now you are mute on reasons.

     

    If you don't give an explanation, that shows 1 or more things.

     

    1) IW has some prejudice against shotguns and does not want a fair debate on the subject.

     

    2) IW is trying to cater to the brats that cry when they get killed by a shotgun and can't deal with it.

     

    And I also love the fact that IW is fine with quickscoping (in fact, encouraging it) and allows a sniper rifle to be a better shotgun than the SPAS-12.

     

    "Here's a real shotgun, the Barret 50 Cal., and plus it's semi automatic, so if you go into close range combat, you can use it just like a Striker. Then, it can be used like a Modern Warfare 2 SPAS-12 with its sniping ability."

     

    - xcalizorz

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