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Hi Ghandi-
Update on the patch. I have now played 5 hours total on the new patch and here are my observations. The game is worse. I am consistently killed by 1 bullet now with absolutely no chance to either get to cover or get my aim up. Players are killing me when they arent even looking in my direction on the screen. I am getting killed after rounding a corner, after being 4-5 steps passed an enemies sight around that corner then dying.
Other people playing today have noticed that button input latency now as well. The game doesnt seem as responsive. I dont mean this to sound mean, but I am disheartened. This is the worst COD title I have played, and I have been around since 2003. This game is just one inconsistency after another. There is no way to GB/Compete because the game is so inconsistent and unpredictable. Please be honest with us, we arent stupid. This game is not gonna get better is it? It is beyond broken right now, its just one big mishmash of bad things.
Couple all of the connectivity issues with the map you guys just released that renders a perk completely useless(dead silence on Liberation is nonexistant on leaves???) makes this game almost no longer worth the effort. I am seriously starting to doubt the capabilities of the developers in the studio, it just isnt that hard. We are now almost 4 months into the game and when you look back, there hasnt been much progress. While you may look at what was fixed and think progress has been made, only some minor things have been fixed, most notably things that should of never even made it with proper testing to a final version of the game.
We had some major issues with Black Ops, but at least with each update, there was NOTICEABLE improvements. We have yet to see any improvement with netcode in this game, in fact I think it has regressed. I honestly think you guys may not have the ability in house to fix the issue. I am not trying to be mean, I am just conveying my opinion on the state of MW3.
I really hope when you say you are super busy that you guys are actually making progress in the game. The patches you guys have put out have been extremely subpar. We are waiting MONTHS for certain fixes when Black Ops would push out fixes within 2-3 weeks after Vahn had similar discussions as you have. Does it really take that long to remix music that blares into our ears? Vahn fixed the volume of footsteps and explosions within 10 days, but you guys cannot even adjust the volume of music 2 months later now.
I have tried to stay upbeat, and stay respectful to you with the hopes that eventually you guys would stumble into the answer, but its apparent that is just not the case. Please finally be honest with us. We actually appreciate honesty instead of being jerked around. Vahn was honest with us when he said they couldnt fix the framerate issues, especially with the Napalm. Can you guys just not figure this out? I am looking forward to a reply. Thanks again, Peter
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@bo2000: I am tempted to pull out the Hauppauge, but I am skeptical of it even helping. I want to help these guys mainly because I have been playing CoD for a looooong time, and that I love IW's versions better and I know this is a good community that deserves better than cheaters and liars to run loose freely.
All my yrs on these Forums, and IWF. I was never as let down as I was with the IWF during the end of MW2's cycle with NO help from fourzerotwo, or any one else about the ABOMINATION that that game turned into. Completely despicable. It was only usually Turambar, thebigb, CoBeezy and others that would even seem to care about what was going on, or even conversate with us.
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I'm pretty much of the same opinion here. I've put in about 3-4 hours with the new patch myself, I just honestly cannot stand the game anymore. I'm honestly to the point where I'm probably just going to sell the game and give BF3 another try. I'm not saying that because they're a direct competitor either. I'm saying that because I've given this game 3 months, and it's only gotten worse in the mean time, and BF3 is the next biggest FPS title out right now. Granted, I wasn't expecting anything great out of the title to begin with.. but I expected a little more than this.
I didn't even buy the game the first week or two that it was out because I knew it was going to be a disappointment.. but my friends talked me into it, and I gave it a shot. 6 Prestiges and 3 months later, and I now know I was right in my original asessment of the game prior to buying it.
I mean no disrespect to you as an idividual, but as far as Infinityward titles go, this will be the last of my purchases. I simply don't trust the company to put out a good title anymore. You had something great with CoD4, but this "mass appeal" approach has ruined your titles.
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@dedicatedserversplease: thanks for your feedback. what you are describing sounds very familiar to me from TU8 and following hotfixes on xbox. I really lost count when the lack of responsiveness kicked in, when it got better, kicked in again, got better...now everytime I put in MW3 for a couple of rounds I get a slightly different experience but far from good. But it's really sad news that TU9/10 seems once again not to deliver a enjoyable experience so I advise ghandi to take his time for some serious conversation because this is urgent.
@esmorgue: I have yet to see a case of someone getting banned because of lag-switching 2.0. If that happens I'm investing and rather cpature every suspect to keep the game clean than wasting my time here with devs who either are not capable or willing to fix our issues. I too prefer IW titles over 3ARC but to be honest I'm not going to support either of them, if they follow their obvious paths. Still enjoy COD4 and MW2 at times but BLOPS and now MW3 finally managed to ruin this franchise for me. Hope they will see a negative impact in their next titles and people will not believe all thoses empty promises again.
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Hello Everyone !!!
@bo2000
@vims1990
@Ghandi
I usually hate to complain ... MW2 is what we all know .... BO actually and gradually gotten better and better during is living term ....
MW3 by premises should have been "Top Notch" multiplayer game, however is not at all (Except for Campaign and SpecOps) . I will understand marketing policy and will forgive Bowling for screwing us around with promises that never gotten close to enjoyable.
I work in the field of IT stuff and have strong knowledge on internet connections, so to speak after all the updates done the last one onto PS3 TU9/10 is the far "WORSE" one ever seen as an update.
Since TU8 finally after almost 4 months audio was nice and clean, but now gotten worse again (i have a Turtle Beach DF) .... Lag is even more mischievous (than TU8) so to tell ppl crap about it .... i travel a lot in Europe, US and AU sincerely i can tell so far your Net Code is cheap stuff ... I understand that 70% of connections that plays MW3 are below average, but pls don't tell me that if i have 45ms from Italy to L.A.(US) or 54ms to Sydney(AU) that my connection is average ;-)) now i play mostly with buddies from US and AU with my same conditions of connections and i "always" get 2 bars if not one !!! Moreover 75% of the time i host the entire game !!! Inconsistency ??? i Think you guys should let ppl with good and perfect connections play togheter and for the rest find a solution for all ..... or instead of pulling us around give a package like GoldLive(Xbox) and on PS3 finally our deserved DEDICATED SERVERS !!!
Get this game going once and for ALL !!! we gave you money for something that so far is not even close to 50% of what payed for .....
Regards
Ruxomar
Xbox360 and PS3
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Ghandi,
Theres no other way to put this the patch was a total FAIL! I've played games through out 11am on 28th to 1pm on 29th and frankly i've noticed nothing different, I dont have a PVR to record my games but I've kept in mind certain times where i know i've directly aimed and hit the person on the body, I then go into theatre to watch what happened and it shows me shooting either to the left or right of the person, instant deaths are bad as ever. You've written in the original post:
"update to 1/2 bar connection against 3/4bar connection"
whilst this was a issue it is not the biggest issue.
You really need to address the Lag Compensation and how Rewind Time works, which is horrific. I just played MW2 and the connections were still awesome I played 5 games and managed to hold 5+ KDR in all of them.
What i think we deserve to know is why the tweaks of this Lag Compensation?
I know it has been in online games for a while but only since Black Ops has it been so bad, I just dont understand it no-one complained about it so what if the host had an advantage it was only 1 player now it seems 3/4 of the lobby in mw3 have the advantage.
IMO SERIOUSLY look at MW2 I know its not a simple case of copy and pasting the code but at least you will know how the game should play properly.
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a 5+ ratio??? Man your ultra benefit of mw2 lagcompensation.
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Hot fixes that have gone live over the past two nights.
.11 Further adjustment to akimbo weapon fire rate.
Map exploit fixes for Infected
.12 Fixed Reaper induced permanent Air Space Full issue.
Recon perk: fixed issue where flash grenades weren't triggering markers.
In test, Reaper zoom stuck issue, LMG rebalance.
Additionally, info regarding mic volume of PS3 from QA:
The default setting of the voice volume slider is lower than in the past. If you move the slider near the limit, you can hear people a lot clearer. This also depends on that outbound volume set on set at on your PS3's XMB. If you have it set to the default of 3 on the outgoing voice via XMB, at the default setting of our game with the new voice codec, the sounds is pretty low. Increasing these two will allow users to adjust the mic volume to a level which works for them.
Cheers,
G IH A IN ID II
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asked some ps3 people on another website and 16 people replied
1 person said the lag seemed better, 1 person said they've only lagged like twice in mw3 ever, 10 people said it seemed the same and some were still experiencing the game drop to 1 fps for 15-20 seconds at times, and the rest said it seemed worse
so, thx i guess
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Hi G IH A IN ID II
Can I ask for what I hope isn't something too onerous:
As you guys are rolling out different TU's and hotfixes at different times to each of the supported platforms (XBox, PS3 & PC), its getting a little difficult to work out what patches we should be experiencing and which we still have to come.
My suggestion is therefore either to put the rolled out platform next to each TU/hotfix on page 1 e..g. "TU1 (XBox, PS3, PC): Enabled Theater, Vault, Private Match options, Elite and Facebook functionality for Launch Day."
or a status for each platform at the top e.g. XBox = TU8, PS3 = TU9/10, PC = TU8.
That way we know what we should be experiencing and people can give feedback knowing that. (same for the hotfixes if possible).
Best regards
Mr Teatameh
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