Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 8:45 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Her we go again. I will not post all problems, because this post would be too long.
First and foremost, COMPLETE CRAP and an ABOMINATION on PS3.
WORST Matchmaking in any CoD. No way in hell that someone should be matched up with people on the other side of the world constantly. Especially when you come out after MW2s matchmaking system.
Gun selection was utter crap.
Some of the most worthless KS, couldve just left them at 3,5,7.
Perk system was crap, Ghost/Flack Jacket, SoH, and usually Hacker/Marathon most used.
The majority of patches were to finish the game months after it came out.
Theater mode hindered connection way too much.
It beat the hell out of PS3s.
Gunship was supposedly patched over and over, yet near the end there was still youtube footage of it not working.
Napalm fire constantly going into enclosed buildings.
Way to many lost host connections well into the end of the game.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 8:55 AM (in response to esmorgue)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Nah i didnt have them problems at all i had most of the crap on MW3 i can not stand the maps on MW3 they are god awful. and the spawning system is just utter crap, i hate the guns and the recoil thats "Realistic" if the soldiers were trained by retards then yeah would be realistic but wow can not stand MW3 anymore.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 9:55 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
I'm not keen on MW3's pallete. The subdued colours make it pretty hard to see targets, particularly campers. I like Black Ops more cartoonish approach. As for the Wager Match game lists restricted to private matches I'd like to see them included in the online lobbies.
Pretty annoying you can't climb up on a lot of stuff like Black Ops and I miss the diving to prone. However, in MW3 the guns are varied and so are the maps. The multiplayer is the most balanced yet with some nice new additions of Team Defender and Kill Confirmed. More choice in the Hardcore lists making it a lot better than Black Ops.
All round the final package is great. I'm loving it.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 9:50 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
yes black ops is far superior to mw3,ok there were matchmaking issues and lag,but mw3 is utter dog.for some reason it feels like everyone is of equal skill on this game ,which cannot be true.black ops maps piss all over mw3 maps ,guns better on black ops ,graphics better on black ops ,playercard and theatre better on black ops
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 9:58 AM (in response to Thecraig050)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
How can the guns be better? The Famas and Ak-74u most used weapons in that game. BS to you going to state the same guns are used over and over on this game. Thats by Black Ops noob trash, that used nothing but the Spamas and the 74-noob.
Maps? Horse sh*t, First strike=useless. Basically the same style maps that are on here. They only begun to open up towards the end when they started making Patch Scoping work.
Theater=lag the sh*t out of the game due to them being on the server end.
Playercard=childish. That game was fail because it tryed it hardest to put everyone on the same level by not making anyone actually work to achieve anything
Graphics? They looked exactly like the best games Treyarch makes=Spiderman!
Cartoon/Comic Book Graphics.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 10:05 AM (in response to esmorgue)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
no point denying it.all that people use on this are ACR,AKIMBO FM9s,UMP.
please dont try telling me and the cod community that the maps on mw3 are better than bops because you will be laughed at .W@W and Bops greater than MW2 AND MW3 in my eyes.
That would say to me that IW are done and sledgehammer have a mountain to climb.
Cod4 was the best game of the lot but the guys who made that are no longer at IW.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 9:59 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Yes it is, my reasons...
1. wager matches
2. varied maps
3. dolphin diving
4. better spawn system
5. unstackable killstreaks
6. easier to party up
7. clearer voice chat
8. better options in theater mode/ able to see all in first person/ friends could watch
9. combat record in game for everyone
10. score board at the end of games was relevent to games
11. less lag/ better hit detection * (at least for me) I know this varies person to person
This is just my opinion and MW3 is still fairly new. I am hoping that some of the issues I have with the game will be patched up. It does bug me that the community manager doesn't seem to communicate with the community very often though. Lots of questions and issues are asked of him on twitter and he doesn't seem to want to answer them.
12. hit markers have sound on Blops but not MW3.(Makes me wonder if the game was even tested on PS3) It's so obvious.
Things I like about MW3
1. Kill confirmed
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 10:08 AM (in response to b-real206)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Spawn syatem was just as horrible as this game was in the beginning, got fixed.
Wager matches=rendered useless due to lag throught its whole life cycle.
Combat record for everyone=no one elses but my friends business how I'm doing. Helped destroy more than help objective matches. Caused chaos in lobbies.
Party system= trash in the begining, even halfway through lifecycle. Brought serious lag to this game due to people werent properly matched on that game based on ping, location.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 10:08 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
I stuck Blops on last night just for a quick match.... Didn't enjoy it very much and I won't be putting it back in the ps3 anytime soon. Mw3 has problems but it's a far better and more interesting game than fail ops.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 6:43 PM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Currently I'm leaning more towards black ops. I loved sticks and stones and gun game! I loved the maps far more than mw3, so far the maps are just bland, although that may change with map packs (I hope). Other than that I like both games.
Oh and currently there's something about mw3 that just kind of feels lacking. I can't put my finger on it but it feels kind of bland and like it's missing something. It's probably just the crap maps I guess.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 7:55 PM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
It was literally a suprerior game in almost every way. Black Ops had it's faults, but after all the patches it was so much fun. Couldn't wait to play that game, MW3 is already feeling like a chore.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 9:38 PM (in response to esmorgue)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
It was a lot harder to earn pro perks in Blops then it is in MW3. I had most of the pro perks unlocked on the second day in MW3. I'm sorry but MW3 is a cluster f**k of game at the moment. Maybe in a month or two it will be better, I hope so because I was one of the fools that sprang for elite.....I had a best buy gift card *shrug*
Couple that with the fact that David Vonderhaar of Treyarch is already asking people what they would like to see in the future. The fact is Treyarch is just more receptive to the COD community.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2011 7:57 PM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
BO had a lot of problems but for some or other reason the game overall is less frustrating than MW3.
The lack of a combat record is very dissapointing as I honestly cbf quitting the game just to check me or my friends stats on Elite.
Yes BO had a lot of lag related problems but to be honest so does MW3. The latest patch did make it better but all it did was mask it up so now I only lag in CQC situations when Im busy with an intense firefight, cant really understand why this happens but it is just as much of a game spoiler than any lag in BO.
The maps are most definitely the worst maps I have ever played on. There is way too much random clutter on the maps, include the fact that there are so many flank routes and you get a maze-like effect where enemies can come up from anywhere, add the bad spawns to this and you have one huge cluster-****. I almost forgot to mention the vast amount of objects that can explode, it is SO ANNOYING spawning close to a car/barrel that is about to explode. Sometimes I just take a corner to be exploded into a thousand pieces and im not even sure what it was that killed me. All of these explosive barrels and cars etc. just add for an easy kill for whomever put five or so bullets into the car just to get it smoking, ridiculous.
It seems that you literally just have to sneaze next to someone to kill them and this results into the fact that accuracy means very little in this game. In BO I had to make sure to land enough bullets accurately to kill the person, in MW3 you can literally hip spray from across the map like terminator, land two bullets and get an easy kill. This all in the effort of making the game appealing to those who are not good yet, "here have an easy kill on us"!
Overall, with all the BS, BO was and is still a more innovative experience that had me locked in for 20+ days of game time. If MW3 keeps me going for 5, i will be impressed that I sat through it that long.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 2:10 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Yes black ops is wayyyyyyyyy better.
I know some people mentioned lag or hit detection issues, but ive never had any. I however have massive lag issues in mw3 (to go along with the plethora of other problems).
Outside of graphics I cant think of any single element of mutliplayer that is better in mw3.
My personal favorite part of BO is the shooting. Black ops had no idle sway and decent kick on most guns. This required skilled burst firing at many ranges to get kills. MW3 is practically full auto at all ranges. The fact is that idle sway makes lining up the 2nd burst slower and more difficult. Its easier and just as effective to lay on full auto. I dont like that.
I want skill difference between good and bad players to be shown in my games. MW3 went out of its way to make that as small as possible.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 2:37 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
For me personally ...i much preferred Black Ops to MW3 ,and i am looking forward to its 2nd release which is supposedly in the pipeline some time in the new year,Cheating and glitching is already rife on this game,however i do enjoy the faster pace of MW3 and will continue to go as far as i can with it until something else comes along, hell i might even try BF3 again, lol
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 3:34 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Presentation BLACK OPS wins (by miles, even a working version of Elite has less stats)
Options MW3 wins (more game modes, clan ops etc. on Elite)
Customisation BLACK OPS wins (Player Card alone kicks ass)
Weapons, Perks, Streaks etc. MW3 wins (BOps was good but the strike packages, per class and proficiences win)
Maps BLACK OPS wins (more varied, map packs could change the balance here though cos BOps were uninspired)
Gun on gun combat MW3 wins (due some weird hit detection thing on BOps)
General game balance TIE (BOps was very balanced, perhaps a little streak orientated)
Lag/connectivity/matchmaking MW3 wins (and this is the crucial one, maybe MW3 gets worse, it can still get a lot better, but BOps died over this)
So I choose MW3 based on the last point- it's the playability one at least. But BOps had some excellent ideas and it's customisation was great. It could've been a true great.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 3:52 AM (in response to robbierocket)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
BO far better balanced game. I just love it when I and my entire team get killed round after round by some jerk who kills us all at the beginning of HC S&D. And it counts as a death for us.
I've played them all and BO is the best COD. Looking forward to BO2.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 4:03 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
i like the out of game stuff better in black ops like the emblem creation which i think they should mix the 2 let us make our emblem and force us to earn our titles its kind or redundent having to earn both of them.
the combat record was a nice feature but i had been in games where the pre game took forever cause one of my friends has like a 5kd in Bops and all that would happen was people would join then see his combat record then leave
its way to soon to tell tho give them a year to fix the problems and see how it ends up
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 5:01 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
Black Ops, although Treyarcs best effort yet had no diversity. Restrictions on how to build guns. A killstreak system that catered to campers and left the weaker players without the higher killstreaks.
The guns had no personality,and it did not matter if you picked up a Galil or an AK47 because it still had 40-30 dmg and the dropdown occuring at 37,5 meters. (Same dropdown whatever AR you chose).
In MW3 you can customize your gun to an extent that simply where not possible in Black Ops and every gun has different stats.
Although after a lot a patches making the game playable on the PS3 in late february 2011 it was a somewhat enjoyable experience it is a pile of dog doo doo compared to any Modern Warfare game 1,2 or 3.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 28, 2011 5:31 AM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
I have to say MW3 over blops while many are having issues with MW3 ive been lucky and havnt had many problems as for blops total lag fest and hated it. I did like blops maps alot more then mw3 since their was more room to move. I like tactical maps not small clustered run into an enemy every five seconds. I know this wasnt part of the question but IMO out of all cod's W@W was by far the best even with people using jugg.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 5, 2011 5:44 PM (in response to ashoman)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
At the moment I would have to say that Black Ops is the better game. Most of the issues that people seem to have with black ops didn't effect me at all, so I would blame most of that either on player skill level or connection issues.
That said, MW3 has potential. Remember, BOps has been out since 2010 and has had time to be patched. And recognizing this, I reserve the right to change my opinion once the devs iron out some issues with MW3. It is already getting better.
The first night of release, I quit after playing one game because I couldn't join a match with a party. That was fixed. The lag and connection issues are a work in progress, but are already noticably better from launch. I am also being rewarded for drinking Mountain Dew.
Hopefully by early 2012, most of the issues with MW3's playability will be fixed.
And I really miss the dolphin dive...
Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 9:56 PM (in response to lilbaily2)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
1. Gun Damage Ratios.
Example- ACR 6.8 - 1200 range vs a guy with a CM901 with 1450 range. well im past the 1200 range so guess who is going to lose the gun fight regardless of skill and how fast you are you will always lose. Put a silencer on it and it only makes it worse so you basicly have to flank ( Which is next to impossible) to win most of your gun fights.
2. Bullet Penetration
- Mw2 had it perfect and why didnt they bring it back? Even with Impact the gun damage feels like garbage and you will die unless the enemy manages to miss every shot which is unlikely. If the enemy is camping you have basicly no chance at all of killing them unless you manage to get up behind them which again is hard enough at times. HOW DO THEY EXPECT ME TO KILL THE HEADGLITCHING CAMPERS IF ALL GUNS HAVE RECOIL EVEN IF YOU BURST FIRE AT RANGE IT STILL SEEMS TO NOT BE AS ACCURATE AS COD4 AND MW2.
To end it though they both are crap at times.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 10:13 PM (in response to lilbaily2)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
I think the majority of cod veterans dont like this game. They like cod4. And this game to me is nothing like cod4. Im guessing you didnt like black ops because you simply sucked at it
Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 10:22 PM (in response to blackfalc7n)Re: Black Ops Better Than MW3?
I liked Mw2 more than COD4 and MW3 and Black Ops.
COD4 had balance but Mw2 all they had to do is remove some stuff and the game would have been perfect.
They changed the entire game and in my previous post I had stated the stuff that make and in my opinoin made this game bad.