swagger5 wrote:

 

Everyone compains about campers. No one complains about run and gunners with their p90 with rapid fire and sleight of hand. Camping, or playing defensive, is a way to counter that. No one is forcing you to run into that building 3 times in a row.

 

Idiots.

 

You have flashbangs for a reason. Use them. There are plenty of counters for defensive players. Stop complaining. If you don't like defensive players, make them come to you, or flash and stun their brains out.

 

Any decent player can take out a camper if you take a breath and slow down a second. They have provided options for every kind of player. Stop complaining. Bad players will put the blame anywhere but on themselves.

 

I experience lag and bad spawns just like everyone else, but I am still able to go positive almost every game. Not only that, but I have over a 2 k/d. Just breathe, slow down, stop raging and gain some skill.

 

No, I do not camp very often. Depending on the map, I will snipe, use an AR and play fairly defensive, or run and gun with a submachine gun.

 

Play tactical, play smart.

Because the game SHOULD be run and gun.

People hate campers because they use chokepoints to make kills, confine some players, and whatnot.

If you had a sniper rifle without quickscoping, I'd be TOTALLY cool with it.

I hate how some ******* pops out some place where they camp, quickscope, shoot, and I get shot. The lag compensation makes this sooo unbearable because I always get shot behind objects.

If you have a shotgun and camp, oh well. If you can make a kill with those shitty guns, then you deserve it.

Lol. The camping I see in almost every game is anything but 'defensive strategy'. However, something tells me you will believe what you need to believe anyway. So, carry on.

In the off chance that you are someone who actually does play defensively, but not truly camping....well, kudos. It's possible.

Don't think for a second, though, that most of us don't have a reason to call out the campers. We see them hiding in dark corners for the entire match...and it happens every game. It's also usually 75% or more of the lobby. They have no strategy other than praying someone will run by without noticing them and they can shoot the person in the back....hopefully more than once before they die and have to spawn somewhere else and find a new dark corner.

I agree and disagree with this post because there are two ends of the spectrum, meaning two kinds of camper.

There's the kind of player that takes high traffic spots and sets up nearby, using cover and clipping if necessary. In most slayer-based gametypes this is a smart move. Most, if not all of the time you are a present threat that's hard to kill.

Then there's the sit-in-a-corner in the hangar on Outpost kind of guy. Not much needs to be said about him.

I'm a very agrressive but aware player, for me campers arent a problem. There's always a way they didn't think of, can't counter, didnt consider or cant anticipate. It's a camper's job to know them and a rusher's job to exploit them.

I tend to call people ingame campers when they kill me even tho i know that their not camping, just defending the bomb.

I dont know why but it pisses me off whenever i die when im on a streak lol.

http://www.callofduty.com/message/105997534#105997534

cod is the easiest shooter of all multiplayer shooters and mw3 is the easiest of them all and you feel the need to lie prone on a table or in a kitchen and wait for someone to walk by, your a lame this game is easy you suck go out there and kill somebody, but honestly i could care less more campers=easy kills for me, all i do is kill campers i literally go into every building one at a time sherrifs department this a raid boom boom boom singles sometimes doubles multis cause campers like to chill together and have butt sex with each other or idk what there doing maybe watching tv in there new house idk, aggressive camping is cool i guess but these kids that just lie in a corner waiting for someone to pass by are really lame and must have no confidence in there abilities to go out and kill everybody which they should not doubt cause this game is extremely easy.

and its not defensive strategy its camping not that its a bad thing if you do it you do it, but it is what it is

People play CoD for it's fast paced gameplay. Sitting in a corner waiting for someone is no where near fast paced. It contradicts why people play this game in the first place.

Play to win

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

I read this during my SF days, changed my outlook on the shoto scrubs, gaming and life in general.

Basically you label "campers" as bad and logically then i presume "run and gunners" good?

Your aim is to get the most kills or gain the most points from objectives.

You constrain yourself further by placing arbitrary rules in place restricting how you will achieve this. You are a scrub.

A good player will not restrict himself. He will defend C "camping as you'd call it" even when no ones around. Finish on the winning side 15-2.

You will keep running at B maybe cap it once or twice but lose nonetheless.25-20

You will complain that the Type is too good. You won't use it but you'll complain.

The good player will use whatever best acheives the objective OP or not.

You sir are a scrub.