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chuckb218 Newbie 50 posts since
Nov 15, 2011
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Nov 16, 2011 9:25 AM

Kill Confirmed

Just a thought about people playing Kill Confirmed. If your going to play Kill Confirmed you can not play it like Team Deathmatch!! If you get the kill, if at all possible get the dogtags lol. Or, if one of your team members falls, get thier tags, prevent the other team from gaining a score. I have lost countless matches because people just run and gun, and say hell with the tags. That is what this game mode is all about!!! Not complaining, just saying... I love this game mode. I don't think people are really realizing what htey have to do within this mode. If you want team deathmatch join that lobby!

  • deejaygamble Newbie 26 posts since
    Feb 28, 2012
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:46 AM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    I agree with you.  This gamemode is getting pretty boring with all the damn campers

     

    http://community.callofduty.com/thread/200404689?prevContainerType=14&prevContai nerID=2050

  • dlundebjerg28 Master 3,154 posts since
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:58 AM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    I play a ton of Kill Confirmed, and last I looked I was ranked top 500 in the world

     

    What you want players to do is be a tag whore, which is not the correct way to play Kill Confirmed. Going for every single tag, and sacrificing a life for a single tag is not smart because you are simply trading a tag for a tag in that situation. The point of the game is to collect more tags than the enemy. Sometimes its better to leave a tag and get out of a situation. If there are two enemies right near a tag, its better to let them deny it, flank them and kill them both then it is to suicide rush the tag and get killed immediately after confirming it.

     

    If you are going to tag whore, its also better to have a slayer type player behind you. I have something like 55,000 kills in kill confirmed, and I think I have 25,000 confirms. On the surface, I look like some tool who doesn't pick up the tags. This is sort of true, I don't pick up a ton of tags on my own, however I usually have a teammate that does that. I'll party up with someone, and they are basically my personal confirmer. We travel around near each other, and he'll go pick up the tags while I watch his back. At the end of the game hes usually like 10-10 with 3500+ points, while I'm 30-5 with 2000 points and we slaughter the enemy.

     

    Playing as a team, and having a good mix of slayers versus guys who go for tags is always good. Look at Kill Confirmed like every other objective game. In Dom its never smart to have all 6 guys going for every objective. Its much better to have a few defenders and a few objective guys. Kill Confirmed is the same way. Have a few guys that get the majority of the kills, and have a few guys that run around and tag whore.

    • adax333 Newbie 28 posts since
      Dec 2, 2011
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      Feb 28, 2012 8:44 AM (in response to dlundebjerg28)
      Re: Kill Confirmed

      dlundebjerg28,

       

      While it is true that you should not be rushing into a situation for a mear tag or two, it is a bit different when you are playing in a party as appose to playing with randoms.

       

      In an ideal game, all playing would confirm their kills or atleast 75% of their kills. Instead what happens and is starting to become an all to common scean is that poeple are trying to pad their k/d's and rack up kills while confirming non.

       

      I find myself being teamed up with these types of players and the only way that I can insure the win is by running around and confirming everything I see. I have sacrificed myself may times when I see two tags as I will be confirming two and giving up one which puts is up by one.

       

      I agree with what you are saying though, I have definatly found myself gulty of traded tag for tag.

  • dannytanner17 Expert 788 posts since
    Sep 23, 2011
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    Feb 28, 2012 9:03 AM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    As of last night, I'm only ranked about top 26000 in KC, so I'm not as 1337 as dlund, but I have to agree with him.  I start off every match intending to get as many kills as possible.  If the kills are CQ, then I'll grab my tags, otherwise I'll leave them for a teammate rather than expose myself to the enemy.  However, If I'm having a bad match or my typical poor game-play, I will gather as many tags as I can, whether I expose myself to the enemy or not to try for the win. 

     

    When I started KC, My KD was even worse than now, but gaining points for gathering tags was a way for me to level up without a lot of kills.  I think a lot of noob players play KC for the same reason, so in a way, I am doing them a favor by leaving tags. 

  • dlundebjerg28 Master 3,154 posts since
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    Feb 28, 2012 10:02 AM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    Its good to know that some people realize its a bad idea to continually try and pick up every tag and they just end up feeding enemy killstreaks.

     

    With the spawns the way the are in this game, I think confirming 50% of your kills might be an even better option. I can't tell you how many times I've dropped 2 or 3 enemies, assumed the coast was clear, and went to get the tags only to get shot by someone who respawned right near me.

     

    Hardhat is a great example of what I mean. I'll stay in that long hallway that has a good view of the room coming from A, the pipe coming from C and a straight view to B. I'll rack up a decent number of kills from people rushing through one of those 3 areas. Probably half of those kills get denied, but when the traffic dies down I'll go confirm 3 kills. I may have gotten 6 kills in that one area, and only confirmed 3, but I also didn't give up any deaths or tags to the other team in the process.

     

    Basically, in any situation as long as you end up confirming multiple kills while not dying, you're doing it right. I have a kid on my friends list who is the definition of a Blind Eye/Assasain camping dbag. Sits in the corner with a silencer, HB Sensor, portable radar and claymore. He racks up 4-5 kills, runs and picks up whatever tags are left and finds a new corner. Is it a ***** playstyle? Yea, but its effective as hell.

  • Snipingdbag Master 4,587 posts since
    Oct 19, 2011
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    Feb 28, 2012 10:14 AM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    IW, should have made it all about the tags, yet even if you do get a lot of tags while staying alive you don't get rewarded for playing the objective. Getting 3 tags while staying alive should give said player an extra point streak, why else name them point streaks? Also if a player kills someone and that tag doesn't get picked up in time, he should not get his point streak at all, limiting killwhores effectiveness in every way possible, while promoting teamwork and playing the objective smartly.

    • dannytanner17 Expert 788 posts since
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      Feb 28, 2012 10:27 AM (in response to Snipingdbag)
      Re: Kill Confirmed

      I agree 100% dbag.  So many tags should count toward a kill streak on KC and I also think that taking the enemy flag on CTF should count as well, not just capping it.  Too many people take advantage of people trying to take the objective by sitting in a corner 'playing defense' or whatever BS excuse they have so they can brag about their KD.  I have no problem with defensive players, but when everyone plays defense on an objective based game, it just ruins the game type and makes for a very slow match.

    • dlundebjerg28 Master 3,154 posts since
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      Feb 28, 2012 11:41 AM (in response to Snipingdbag)
      Re: Kill Confirmed

      I like the 3 tags = 1 point toward you're point streak idea. I never understood why there wasn't something like that.

       

      I'm not too sure about a kill not counting if the tag isn't picked up in time though. Kill whores are always going to be part of objective games. Theres always going to be that one ******* who plays an objective game like TDM, just like theres always that one ******* who sits in a corner with Blind Eye/Assasain and a HB Sensor. There will always be people like that no matter what. I think you're idea would cut down on those people that are borderline killwhores.

       

      Take myself for example. I run Reaper/AC-130/Osprey Gunner as my killstreaks. I run Hardline as well. If I'm on a 7 killstreak and I see a bunch of tags and no teammates in sight, I'm camping like a little ***** on those tags waiting for an enemy to come and get them. If 3 tags = 1 kill, maybe I'd be a bit riskier and go for the sure thing in picking up the tags instead of hoping an enemy comes after them. Instead of hurting everyone and penalizing you for not getting every tag, reward those who go after them. Thats just my opinion anyway.

      • dannytanner17 Expert 788 posts since
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        Feb 28, 2012 11:59 AM (in response to dlundebjerg28)
        Re: Kill Confirmed

        Last night me and some randoms won a KC match 65-8 on Lockdown.  I was watching the score the whole match just stunned that they didn't back out.  Even though the game ended in a few minutes, I thought that I must have done poorly finishing just 16-3, but the fact of the matter is that the final score should have been more like 65-40.   They had more kills than I expected to see, but they just didn't grab their tags.  I guess I should thank the campers for the easy win. 

         

        It is kind of satisfying playing kill-whore teams and beating them when nearly your entire team has a negative KD.  They can have their KD if I can have the win.

        • wrecku Apprentice 1,135 posts since
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          Feb 28, 2012 12:11 PM (in response to dannytanner17)
          Re: Kill Confirmed

          One reason I gave up playing objective games. Every COD it just gets worse. Your okay if your in a clan but for us lone wolves out there its hard to find a decent game.

          The little brats are to worried about their KD.

          • gzowner1 Apprentice 699 posts since
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            Feb 28, 2012 12:21 PM (in response to wrecku)
            Re: Kill Confirmed

            Exactly. they think having a KD of 2.0+ they think they are the shitzz but when really they just plain suck because they cant win a game. I keep losing games because of this crap in objective. So now i go for TDM or KC but even that is becoming a pain. Its almost to the point why have objective games when they are only concern about the KD instead of the W.

        • dlundebjerg28 Master 3,154 posts since
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          Feb 28, 2012 12:21 PM (in response to dannytanner17)
          Re: Kill Confirmed

          I lost a game where I was 51-7 a week or so ago and I was absolutely ripshit after the match.

           

          I ended the match with like 4500 points, but I didn't get a chance to confirm a ton of kills because a lot of them came from my Reaper/AC130/Osprey. Meanwhile my teammates refused to leave their corners and help out. I think we had something like 130 total kills combined, yet we lost 65-55 to a team where the majority of them had around a 1 K/D and a ton of points.

           

          I don't know if you could have an entire team go negative and win a match, but you could definitely beat a team of campers that are only worried about high K/Ds with less than stellar scores if they ignore tags.

      • tallowby Expert 780 posts since
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        Feb 28, 2012 12:18 PM (in response to dlundebjerg28)
        Re: Kill Confirmed

        dlundebjerg28 wrote:

         

        I like the 3 tags = 1 point toward you're point streak idea. I never understood why there wasn't something like that.

        Bad Idea. The 3 tags spinning represents 3 actual kills. They shouldn't be counted twice.

         

        If you need to inflate your kills there is a way now, put on Hardline Pro and get a recon drone and put on Final Stand.

         

        That is if you can't get the kills yourself like the rest of us.

        • dlundebjerg28 Master 3,154 posts since
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          Feb 28, 2012 12:25 PM (in response to tallowby)
          Re: Kill Confirmed

          Trust me boss, I have no issues getting kills on my own. Not to mention the Recon Drone is the most useless killstreak ever created.

           

          In Domination you get rewarded for capping an objective, since tags are the objective for Kill Confirmed why not have some kind of incentive to pick them up. Not a 1-1 deal, but making every 5 tags or every 3 tags count as a kill would do the trick

  • gzowner1 Apprentice 699 posts since
    Nov 13, 2011
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    Feb 28, 2012 12:25 PM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    Really i think they had a idea of, if you kill somebody you should be the one collecting the tag, and the shooter should not get the credit for the kill or the points. That should help game making it more funner. So shoot, get tag, get score win game. Not shot, wait for somebody get the tag and you still get credit even if nobody picks it up. Thats BS.

  • monkeylord Expert 1,618 posts since
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    Feb 28, 2012 1:28 PM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    I pretty much agree Kill confirmed is not a place to worry about your K.D more a place to learn how the game works. I love thoese little tags and the ping they make and at first my K.D went into the toilet  as I got my butt handed to me after repeatedly running into situations because of nabbing tags.

    But after a while it started to climb again it's at about 1.26 while i'm still snatching a load of tags most rounds I get the emblem for most confirms.

    Sure i'm never gonna hit an M.O.A.B but other modes provide that kill confirmed is a bit of a laugh where you can try out all the weapons not worry about being over swamped with kill streaks as other modes seem to have a problem with tags are there to be grabbed any other way is just a cop out

  • A_L_L_S_T_A_R_03 Novice 187 posts since
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    Feb 28, 2012 1:38 PM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    My team is pretty good and one of us usually gets a MOAB and we  stop collecting tags at around 55-60 and just kill out the rest of the time till the last few seconds and collect the rest. lol

    • gzowner1 Apprentice 699 posts since
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      Feb 28, 2012 1:49 PM (in response to A_L_L_S_T_A_R_03)
      Re: Kill Confirmed

      You know i got hate message for killing the last guy and collecting his tag, because the other team wanted to get more kills and calling a carepackage. Score was like 6460.. screw that i go for the win, and i dont give a **** about your carepackages..

  • invicible07 Calculating status... 2 posts since
    Nov 12, 2011
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    Feb 28, 2012 1:43 PM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-kOsw7Tgjo&list=UUy049yM8rd1D5HubO5grZig&index=2 &feature=plcp

     

    this is a flaw with kill confirmed but of course we will exploit it

  • invicible07 Newbie 2 posts since
    Nov 12, 2011
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    Feb 28, 2012 1:44 PM (in response to chuckb218)
    Re: Kill Confirmed

    youtube.com/watch?v=m-kOsw7Tgjo&list=UUy049yM8rd1D5HubO5grZig&index=2&feature=pl cp

     

    this is a flaw with kill confirmed but of course we will exploit it

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