Nov 10, 2011 3:38 PM
ump + stalker = rediculously insane
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any1 agree that its op? u pretty much cant move around the map with anything else but this setup or u get destroyed. its way too intense
what woud u call just fine?
Meaning it isn't overpowered. I use many other setups and do just as well as i do with a ump. Infact scavenger, assassin, marksman with a cm901 and a silencer destroys worlds.
im talking close range. u cant move thru close quaters without getting mowed down by stalker ump
Better than you?
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No seriously I'm doing pretty good.
I use the G36C and i do just fine too.
I think it's all about your reflexes and your connection. If both are good you can rule with any weapon. So far I am finding the game well balanced.
Yep, game is only as balanced as your connection to the host.
i have had no real problems with sub machine guns. They arent as powerful as people think that would be. I find myself doin fine with assault rifles. Mostly use the CM901 with silencer and/or red dot, and almost got that baby up to level 31. For small maps i use the pp90m1 with range proficiency and red dot. Stalker really is not beastly, its just helpful. The only time i really get annoyed with sub machine guns is when you can spray them long range, and not get that much kick, and down a person with not much effort (for example, ak74u from black ops). That seems to have been balanced. My only real qualms is with QS being put on easy mode. My wife tried it earlier today, and she is not that experienced, and found it easy. Thats when you know its been watered down. Oh, and the type 95..... just wow
Yet I would much rather play a lobby full of qsers on these maps than a lobby full of auto users, guess what happens more for obvious reason. Let your wife try that in a public dom game on one of the many cqb maps. Let her come back and say it's easy to do well with a sniper rifle constantly online, it's not.
The sniping / scoping system Is great. I'm not going to lie, but it's far from OP. You can easily miss, especially with just a little bit of lag. People should be dying to sniper rifles too, get used to it. They are competitive but far from the best choice on these maps.
On the Ump, yes it obviously is OP. Denying it is hilarious. I mean 49 base damage plus all the standard smg advantages, the gun has that "little" bit of extra power which simply helps a lot in combo with say rf and less kick. Personally I enjoy beating ump whores with the P90 a lot, so it's all good and really ars are still the go to class (by playing more defensively) when going shi-t next to the Ump.
How do you beat it you say, ah but you should be having good classes / setups yourself, including an ump with rf and less kick. That's how. If you die constantly to it with other setups it's all you, you can switch and change tactics after every death, I play with loads of guns in one game, makes the game that much more fun to play. It is far from the only good class. I rather use the acr on quite a few maps for instance. It's all about your playing style, aiming, positioning, connection, all round skill, map knowledge and just random luck really.
OH wow.. listening to all you people annoys me!
MSR for life. ![]()
LOL close range mp9 or m9p or whatever destroys anything close range sorry.
If I HAD to pick and OP gun it might be the UMP. At first I thought it was going to be a problem but I learned quickly that the gun can't do anything from 20+ feet away. If this game fixed anything since BO it was dousing the range of SMGs. If you're the wreckless run and gunner then no doubt those who use the UMP are going to rock your world. Just keep your distance and you'll be fine
I'm running with an ACR and I'm doing just fine. I used the UMP at the beginning, but started getting lit up on most levels. Marksman is bad ass.