Oct 20, 2011 10:43 PM
Petition to Bring Ranked Dedicated Servers back for the PC SKU of MW3
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Hey guys,
If you have a Twitter account and care to support this Petition, please sign it and spread the word.
The community needs to get behind this, even if we don't think it will work, or we will most certainly fail...
-H4WKE
h4wke wrote:
Hey guys,
If you have a Twitter account and care to support this Petition, please sign it and spread the word.
The community needs to get behind this, even if we don't think it will work, or we will most certainly fail...
-H4WKE
But what exactly do they mean by "unranked"? This still isn't clear. The community means one thing - it means progressive ranking. But AVTI/IW/SG seem to mean something else, because Spec Ops has an internal progressive ranking system, but is "unranked".
I asked Mark Rubins, executive Producer for MW3, what they mean by "ranked" and "unranked":
ranked - streaming live stats to Elite
unranked - no streaming of live stats to Elite
So, the terminology needs clarifying. More importantly, the "real" question needs answering: Can we progressively rank up on dedicated servers? It doesn't matter if it is an "internal" ranking system like Spec Ops. We just need some way to get at the weapons without having to play matchmaking on P2P.
I encourage everyone to sign this anyways. Lets show the devs we;re serious. We don't need to be stupid about itt like we were with MW2 were the majority who signed the boycott bought the game anyways. Lets just show them how integral this part of the game is to us. Its hard for them to take a boycott seriously when everyone buys the game anyway. But we can get noticed. And unless FourZeroTwo is a Liar they will listen to the community and give us our weapons, our bigger player counts, and hopefully our ingame console back!
It won't do any good but I signed anyway. I honestly can't believe they've gone with IW.net again after all the complaints and problems it caused, it's like they want the PC version to suck for some reason.
/Signed
GR0MIT
Not that they'll listen anyway.
We say "we want dedicated servers"
They hear "blah blah blah is'nt xbox great, forget us we are'nt important, don't worry we don;t think pride in your work is important either blah blah"
h4wke, as a console gamer and ex-PC gamer, I have signed your petition and you have my support.
I do hope other console gamers come to support your cause as well.
iwNET was a piece of crap on PC and I think MW3 will be the same experience for you guys.
Let's hope IW sort's this out before the game launches.
I'm surei can speak for the rest of the PC guys when i say thanks man, we need your support and were gratefull for your understadning of our prediciment, you deserve dedicated servers and all that jazz just as much as we do.
I signed but to be honest i dont care no more,i want buy this cosnole port or bf3 console port
and cant set maxfps?! cant change FOV?!
thanks,but no thanks
/Signed
I hope they listening to us, else they are lossing costumers. ![]()
signed..
BUT another year of COD4 awaits us clan gamers
Not a bad thing, with all the free CoD4 cd keys they gave out on steam for pre ordering mw3 the game has had a massive influx of fresh blood.
Now all we need to do is tone down the rules and just have fun with all the weapons, not restrict it all to one gun.
Signed..
Betrayed Good buy COD signed for the community but i cannot and willnot support liers.
I went threw this with modern warefare 2 then you cut and past iw.net and screw us with unranked servers locking the config down and generally destoring a once great game and community.
Have your 12 year olds with moms laptop that grew up on xbox and no know better.
Had enough good bye Robert you wanker,Infinity Ward you sell outs and Activision you theiving bastards.
I'm spreading this all over the place.
i am re-posting this all over the place, we need to get this sorted asap no dedi ranked severs just another knife in the back for pc gamers from IW
I'd suggest making the petition something that doesn't require you to have a twitter account let along allowing access from a 3rd party.. Just use a standard petition that just requires e-mail address otherwise you're reducing the chance of people signing / bothering to sign if you make it difficult.
I hope they do NOT bring back RANKED dedicated servers.... The unranked dedicated server is DEFINATELY the way to go... Anyone who wants RANKED dedicated servers wants them for one thing only.. BOOSTING. Log in to Black ops and search for core game modes, and what comes up, 9000 nuketown servers and maybe 10-15 normal servers... or Log into CoD4MW and search core and you get thousands of shipment servers with 60+ people... Now with UNRANKED there won't be any reason for these retarded servers. So you can all thank yourselves for not getting RANKED dedi servers... GOOD JOB IW.. good to know you guys ARE listening.
You are over exaggerating about CoD4. If you don't want those servers, don't play them. They made IWNET just for you already. Either that, or go check out an Xbox 360.
I am not over exaggerating in the slightest bit. Just now went onto CoD4 and with a quick search all but 2 of the servers on the first page were shipment boosting servers.
You have nobody to thank but yourselves for them making dedi servers unranked...
I don't know what server listing you are looking at or what the hell is wrong with your game, but I see a large variety of servers in my browser and it looks nothing like you described, unless you're lying.
"You have nobody to thank but yourselves" Huh? I actually know how to use a server browser unlike some of those who needs IWNET because they can't do simple filters and find a server they enjoy playing at. Out of thousands of servers, you can't find many default ones? Seems like a personal problem there.
I've raised this point over and over again, the solution is simple.
Ranked Dedicated and Unranked Dedicated.
Ranked Dedicated = Hosted by 3rd party. No Customisation, Strict Rules, Only able to do basic things such as name the server, kick and ban. Still in control by IW with regards to settings.
Unranked Dedicated = Full Customisation
SOLVED!
Signed!
Can you also post on Steam forums in MW3 section for PC?
You need at least 10,000 signatures you are below 300.
I agree but you do more than just a petition.The only way to do some damage is to get a large amount infact most of the pc community to just stop buyiing any of there products .This is the only way you are going to hurt companies this big.We have to make a stand .That is how changes occur!!!!!!!
Yep and to get the word out, we need to get someone such as IGN to report on this. A lot of people still don't know and are going to get screwed over day one when they go to play and can't get a refund after the fact.
I'll post this one last time so the back seats can hear me ![]()
I understand your fustrations on this subject, but may I give you an example as to why I think this desision has been made by IW
Lets say the Dedicated servers were Ranked, and everyone is happy, well no, not everyone because what would stop an admin from kicking you off his server because he doesnt want you or anyone else on his server from useing the Noob Tubes?
Soon you find you are unable to get your Noob Tubes XP levels up on CoD Elite, because admins are kicking everyone off their servers as they dont want anyone using Noob Tubes
and this could be said for any weapon, attachment, perk or kill streak
This is why IW see that only a closed admin-less P2P set up is good enough for CoD Elite and its the introduction of the CoD elite system thats causeing this situation, so basically so no one can mess up their all seeing, all powerful CoD Elite system that cant be seen to fail
And because of this I dont think dedicated servers will NEVER be ranked
You're wrong.
What about P2P and the host quits ?
And don't you know that PC gamers get a very different CoD: Elite ?
So if they were so sure about the ranked P2P PC servers... why would they do that ?
We don't get ranked Dedicated servers because they are not bothered but no dedicated servers means bad publicity.
And were is the info on PC dedicated servers are stand-alone servers like in CoD4 ?
Why only obscure small GSPs are twittering about pre-order MW3 servers ?
O.. btw I signed. ![]()
Article about PC version CoD: Elite :
if the host quits nothing happens, you just restart again and nobodies any the worse off for it, it doesnt stop you from eventually levelling up, but admin restrictions placed on dedi servers will
Im also very aware of the PC side of CoD Elite, but thats still doesnt change the fact that admins who want to run a dedicated server themselves are free to choose how its set up, thus making CoD Elite in what ever guise it is for PC null and void
I signed too, but Im aware that IW has zero interest in such things...
I dont want or need CoD Elite in any shape or form thats why Im perfectly happy to play MW3 on an Unranked server, because my pings are far more important that any rank or prestige badge ![]()
I love how you say "eventually leveling up".
We had ranked dedicated servers before.
It all started with ranked dedicated servers.
And it never stopped CoD in becoming a best-seller.
Why?
Because it is easy to check if a server (or a player) uses the correct settings.
Yes we had dedicated servers before, and we have them again, but please remember why this is happening, its the CoD Elite service, and it completly changes the entire way things are done now
If you want your PC game to be tied in with this service then you have to be prepared to opt in to the P2P service thats now being offered to us, its a take it or leave it offer, and Im leaving it, I've zero interest in a service thats aimed at console guys who love to use a badge to brag about how much time they have spent in a game
if you, like me have no interest in a service thats been set up with consoles in mind then you have the oppertunity to igrnore it and play on dedicated servers that we have all expected to see as standard in a PC game
Your claim that "It all started with ranked dedi's" is inaccurate because you chose to forget inclusion of CoD Elite, CoD 4 was the first CoD game to bring in ranks to the PC game, you ranked to level 55 and that was it, nothing else happened, why?, because the prestige function was not included in the PC version, when it was added in World @ War, rank cheat servers were set up and everyone had the abilty to prestige to level 10 in about an hour, hacked lobbies in MW2 showed that the ranking system on the PC was as flawed as ever
but now CoD Elite is here, and does anyone really expect server admins to have the ability to mess that system up? of course not, and thats why if you want to partake in that service you gotta allow the game to be connected to CoD Elite with the P2P system where no admins can determine who or what stats are recorded on it
Lets face it, if the biggest selling version of the CoD games (360) isnt being offered dedicated servers for stat counting on CoD Elite, what makes you think the version with the least selling figures (PC) would be offered it?
Play the unranked version of the game on dedicated servers and forget about CoD Elite and enjoy your steady stable connection to the game, because pings are more inportant than ranks and badges
I'll also post so the backseats can hear.. I've said it countless time.
WHY NOT HAVE BOTH!? Ranked Dedicated and Unranked Dedicated.
Ranked Dedicated = IW Forced Rules, can only do simple things such as rename server, is hosted by a 3rd party hosting company, IW get revenue, people rent servers.. Maybe the option to kick / ban (not sure? But we could live without this one)
Unranked Dedicated = What they're suggesting now, fully customisatble, you get the server files etc.
It's so simple it's frustrating >.<! People keep arguing oh Ranked is Better, Unranked is Better.. Why not just have both as dedicated with strict / unstrict rules.. Rules #1 if you want to Rank on a dedicated server you have to do what IW say eg: Tubes, else create your own Unranked customisable server. Soooo simple to sort this whole thing out I just think IW want to kill the PC CoD all together so I doubt we'll even seeit come next CoD.
No-- Cerino
Dedicated servers are full of scumbag control freaks that i want nothing to do with.
You don't have to and this isn't your concern. You have IWNET already. You're in the wrong thread. Let me help you: http://www.callofduty.com/community/mw3/forums/call_of_duty_mw3/cod_mw3_xbox_360
you should play call of duty 4 and you will see admins there are really nice ![]()
They should be ranked dedicated servers in this game,this is just a way to promote elite.Just goes to show why all of the news on servers was not announced before now.
This is a real shame and for me it's such a shame that I may not get MW3 or a dedicated server. My clan and I were very excited about the release, but now it's a bit undone. I never imagined we'd have only unranked dedicated servers.
Unranked dedicated servers are simply not played by anyone unless it's to have a clan match or to mess around. Everyone plays Ranked servers.
Guess what all you PC Gamers...they won't be changing this. It's far too much work and the second the game is released they will be off making their next game.
I have a feeling you may see many PC gamers shift over to Battlefield 3. My clan in particular plays both. Without a Ranked dedicated server for MW3, I have a feeling most will want to play BF3. Maybe I'll rent a second BF3 server.
just fouind this thread, signed on twitter. BUMP to top of pc threads.
bump
Just a question can we all be serious for at least a second and admit that full server control to the admins was better,easy and more open to the community. we shoudn't be bargaining with the developers that have f**ked up my favourite pc games since call of duty 4 / World at war. The whole pc community should stand as 1 and make our voices heard to one of the most en-grossing company's to date. Making patitions and twitter responses are not going to be heard by these tyrants we need to take it up steps to make our point get across to these people.
Master_of_souls wrote:
Just a question can we all be serious for at least a second and admit that full server control to the admins was better,easy and more open to the community. we shoudn't be bargaining with the developers that have f**ked up my favourite pc games since call of duty 4 / World at war. The whole pc community should stand as 1 and make our voices heard to one of the most en-grossing company's to date. Making patitions and twitter responses are not going to be heard by these tyrants we need to take it up steps to make our point get across to these people.
Is there a better suggestion in there some where?
what is this ELITE you are all writing about? ![]()
they could not get it working on pc since mw3 was released...
i guess they will never be able to ^^
in the description of blops2 you can find:
elite will fully be implemented to bo2...
but maybe not on pc either ^^
just get lost with your call of fluty series since mw2