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T-boss wrote:

KSG range nerf.

The KSG's range is what makes it unique. Why change it?

@OP Its probably the same as guns in the past, but its used more, so more people have to whine.

Nerf the SMGs before you TOUCH the shotguns.

Curious. Have you ever actually seen anyone pump cancel the R870 ingame?

Necromencer wrote:

 

I have Diamond shotguns on the WIIU version. I play shotguns mainly (either shotguns or pistols)

I can honestly say that shotguns in general are NOT overpowered.

There are honestly so many ways to counter a shotgun user. Sure, they're a pain when you don't expect them but they're limited and usually go on the same route (allyways, small rooms, corridors)
BO2 is a CQC game and as such you should naturally expect CQC duals.

 

Remmy: By far the most 'noobiest' shotgun. It has a far OKHO range and it can be used by noobs, which makes it deadly.

Ksg: Have you even used it? Try to get it gold and you'll see this lovely hitmarker machine. Sure, it has a long range but use it for more than one game and you'll come back trying wanting it to be buffed.

M1216: Deadly at closerange but it sucks at mid-range. This isn't used by noobs because you have to time the reloads.

S12: It's a beast for multi-kills, on 1v1 encounters it's quite a pain (unless you can trigger it quickly)

I hate it when you guys cry that shotguns are overpowered. Seriously, get a life and learn how to counter them. I find it hypocritical that you moan about them when you yourself are probably using an SMG (PDW) with a silencer on every single map.

The thing about shotgun users is that they die shortly after they kill (unless you're facing a pro shotgun user). He may get 2-4 kills before he dies and they usually have a 1kd. This means that they are limited to scorestreaks and NEVER end up getting anything more than a wartog (not from what I have seen).

Let's compare this with a SMG user, not only do they have range. They have a lot of ammo and flexability. How often do you see these SMG 'pro's use higher end scorestreaks?  I personally find them quite often (either SMG or Assault rushers)

 

 

 

So, who is OP

 

Think about it and stop complaining.

Completly agreed, you have learnt well.

I think there were equal shotguns as some of these that were NEVER mentioned as OP.

Why? If you're just going to cry about how it needs more recoil, at least explain why and how it will balance the game more.

Seriously....

It's because there is no OP AR in this game, think about it, the few ARs with barely any recoil, such as MTAR, Type 25 and M27 for example, they all have rather high RoF, but they're weak over the range and what makes them even weaker is attaching silencer into them, M27, I don't recommend it.

Type 25, becomes an SMG with the silencer so it's probaly the only weapon I can counter any SMG without being nearly killed, lovely gun

MTAR, ugh, I don't know why, but I think that it's stats are complete BS, feels weaker than what it's supposed to be.

Reason why SMGs are getting hate is because the map design favours them in every single map, even on the larger maps the SMG users are so fast with their movement that they can just do the typical BO2 players assault, attack from behind or rush right in front of you where the only thing that matters is the RoF.

Only weapon from SMGs that has taken my attention for now is the Skorpion, today I've faced few guys with it.

I don't know why are some SMGs instakills against me, either it's the lag, or then there is a bug that makes the FMJ affect the damage of the weapon, even it's supposed to only help with the penetration trough materials.