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OUHATEME Novice 249 posts since
Jun 12, 2012

Clan op 3090 tdm total kills Xbox

Posted by OUHATEME on Jan 20, 2013 7:13 PM

Sundays clan op tdm total kills . Enlisted played the op monitored iPad for score which never updated always said clans leader board is being constructed even after the op ended. Elite messes up so no big deal I check again on the iPad still saying same thing I go onto xbox to elite it shows zero kills. I'm guessing that we are not the only clan this has happened to.

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  • Nirvi Calculating status... 14 posts since
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    Nirvi     Jan 20, 2013 7:27 PM (in response to OUHATEME)

    OMG, are you serious? People need to be fired. It's just a joke after a joke. Treyarch can't get anything right.

    • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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      LifeSong1     Jan 21, 2013 8:18 AM (in response to Nirvi)

      While Treyarch may have some responsibility in this, the majority should be falling on BeachHead who is supposed to be in charge of Elite.

  • edsback41 Newbie 25 posts since
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    edsback41     Jan 20, 2013 8:11 PM (in response to OUHATEME)

    I am really surprized that more people don't post complaints on here. Today's Op Competition scores never showed up at all. My scores haven't been showing up at all for 5 days straight and about 6 times before this haappened. I do the  Challenges too, same thing! I'm not alone, other clan members have this happen to them as well. 3 or 4 times when the competition started people in my clan had their career caps, kills or comfirms show up as if they earned them for the competition. 2 times that this happened these people had not even participated in the competition. We try to keep track of our scores on a FB clan group page. Elite doesn't make it easy to do this. In MW3 Elite they gave us enough info to figure out exactly where we placed within GOLD, SILVER or BRONZE. Now all we know is that we finished somewhere in those 3 places.
    The way it is set up now, does anyone actually know if our final competition score is actually what we earned? There is no way to keep track or verify that the score they post is even correct! I could verify the crap out of our clan scores with MW3 Elite, either in Elite or through our stats in MW3. Now, it's like they don't want us to be able to do that in BO2.
    Our clan really loves to compete through Elite. We hate to see it so flawed and error plagued. I wonder how many clans still compete? They even took away or left out Clan level perks, like level emblems and double XP. I like the concept of Elite a lot more than BO2 Leagues. It almost seems like COD wants to push fans away from Elite.

    PLEASE FIX ELITE!

    • mwfan55 Master 2,622 posts since
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      mwfan55     Jan 20, 2013 9:53 PM (in response to edsback41)

      The issue with one player receiving a few thousand confirms is a known issue. Several clans have addressed this issue to ATVIAssist on twitter and there has been no respond but " we will look into it". Several clans have been robbed of championship badge because of this problem. No solution yet.

    • thurston13 Newbie 96 posts since
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      thurston13     Jan 21, 2013 8:05 AM (in response to edsback41)

      They still Haven't posted the stats for the CTF that was on the 15th. There's a bunch of useless retards running this site. Everythings broken and they'll never do anything about it cause they don't care. If everyone keeps buying the garbage they're releasing they'll never have to fix it. People need to stand up.

      • SilentDHBI Apprentice 625 posts since
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        SilentDHBI     Jan 21, 2013 8:34 AM (in response to thurston13)

        People have been standing up for over a year. And if it's true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, then these issues should have been fixed months ago. Until Activision actually comes out and names a new company in charge of ELITE or makes Beachhead do something, we're well and truly f***ed.

  • prncdamd Novice 83 posts since
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    prncdamd     Jan 21, 2013 2:14 AM (in response to OUHATEME)

    The TDM leaderboard is still being constructed for my clan for 20/01/13

     

    On KC 19/01/13 the leaderboards glitched and I got 6000+ confirms which is actually my total confirms since iv been playing

  • CBG__UK Novice 35 posts since
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    CBG__UK     Jan 21, 2013 2:53 AM (in response to OUHATEME)

    So far it is saying 0 kills of us and on the eltie site saying is still working out the stats.

     

    All of the players have scored elite points before, so it not a question if they was there when I enlisted, the answer is yes to that, they was there.

  • IGAidenOwns Calculating status... 6 posts since
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    IGAidenOwns     Jan 21, 2013 3:32 AM (in response to OUHATEME)

    Happened to my clan to. We had over 3000 kills and all that shows for a big fat 0

    • Petros7 Calculating status... 23 posts since
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      Petros7     Jan 21, 2013 5:06 AM (in response to IGAidenOwns)

      We compet for TDM and nothing as a result... Stupid game i ve got enough !!!

    • Ap0ca1yp3e Novice 218 posts since
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      Ap0ca1yp3e     Jan 21, 2013 5:31 AM (in response to IGAidenOwns)

      Hello,

       

      I am curious, over 3000 kills? thats over 500 kills per person, how is that possible? what is your strategy? My clan managed 1600 and were ranked 197 in the world how can your team get an extra 1400 kills, it makes my team look like complete noobs lol.

       

      Regards Apocalypse

      • SilentDHBI Apprentice 625 posts since
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        SilentDHBI     Jan 21, 2013 7:13 AM (in response to Ap0ca1yp3e)

        The clans who are "champion" worthy get 6500+ legit kills in a TDM op. They just kill a lot of people quickly.

        • Ap0ca1yp3e Novice 218 posts since
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          Ap0ca1yp3e     Jan 21, 2013 7:49 AM (in response to SilentDHBI)

          Really?

           

          That is sick, do they stream, I would be very interested in how they get that many kills, after every game I play with my clan, the entire team quits and we wait minutes for another game, looking at an average of 22 games over 3 hours, thats 75 * 22 = 1650 on a very good night.

           

          Is it small groups rather than full teams? I would really like to know their tactics.

          • SilentDHBI Apprentice 625 posts since
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            SilentDHBI     Jan 21, 2013 8:04 AM (in response to Ap0ca1yp3e)

            Lethal Gaming has a youtube channel and post videos to it weekly (I believe they just started streaming with twitch... but I'm not sure about that). Or you can go to their website  @ lethalxgaming.com. I know they used to run 5 riot shields and one slayer (x6) for MW3, but they haven't been doing that for Black Ops 2 as far as I know.

          • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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            LifeSong1     Jan 21, 2013 8:36 AM (in response to Ap0ca1yp3e)

            It does seem odd that any team could get that many kills. Let's do the math.

             

            If your top 6 players played 22 games in a 3 hour timeframe. (180 minutes total, each game is 10 minutes at most and possibly less. Plus a minute of downtime between games at a minimum, possibly more if they have to get new people to play against.)

             

            3000 kills = 500 kills each (22.72 avg kills per game per member)

            4000 kills = 666 kills each (30.30 avg kills per game per member)

            5000 kills = 833 kills each (37.87 avg kills per game per member)

            6000 kills = 1000 kills each (45.45 avg kills per game per member)

             

            Based on that I could see some of the top teams getting between 3K and 4K kills in that 3 hour time frame. I would find it hard to believe that any team gets more than 4K kills by 6 members in a 3 hour time frame.  To do this, only 2 of them could be in the room at a time and if they were in the same room they have to have almost every one of their teams kills (75 kills is the max in a game).  If there is only one main person in the room then it is possible, though it seems unlikely anyone can constantly get 30+ kills per game almost every game for 3 hours straight. I'm not saying getting 4K is impossible but when you start saying 5K+ then I would definitely say almost impossible.

             

            With the way elite is awarding some members at the beginning of an op a lot of points, I would have to believe that clans with that high of a score were effected by this bug in elite (not saying they cheated, but that elite is buggy).

            • SilentDHBI Apprentice 625 posts since
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              SilentDHBI     Jan 21, 2013 9:47 AM (in response to LifeSong1)

              I know that several of their slayers can get between 1000 and 1500 kills in a three hour op legitimately. I don't think they necessarily run in a full party (thus being able to get into and out of games MUCH faster.) If you're calculating times for matches, then running solo will get you an extra 10-20% more matches in those three hours.

              • phxs72 Master 3,641 posts since
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                phxs72     Jan 21, 2013 9:54 AM (in response to SilentDHBI)

                I've got some guys in my clan that can pull down pretty close to 1000 kills in a 3 hr clan op.  The trick is not just being good (which is obvious) but you have to run in smaller parties.  2 to 3 man max.  Otherwise you are stealing kills from each other.

              • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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                LifeSong1     Jan 21, 2013 10:47 AM (in response to SilentDHBI)

                I get what you are saying about the smaller parties, but they still have to average over half of the teams kills every game during that 3 hour period. Just doesn't seem like anyone would actually be able to do that.

                • SilentDHBI Apprentice 625 posts since
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                  SilentDHBI     Jan 21, 2013 10:56 AM (in response to LifeSong1)

                  I can't fathom how they do it either, but I've seen these guys go 45+ kills in a room solo. They're just beasts.

                  • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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                    LifeSong1     Jan 21, 2013 11:00 AM (in response to SilentDHBI)

                    I get that they can get 45+ kills in a room...but in every room for 3 hours? That's the part I'm struggling with. People have good games all the time, but to have them that consistently just seems odd to me.

                    • Ap0ca1yp3e Novice 218 posts since
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                      Ap0ca1yp3e     Jan 21, 2013 11:37 PM (in response to LifeSong1)

                      It really does have me puzzled, I am no where near their skill level but to consistently hit 45+ on a solo player there are some factors that I cannot get my head around.

                       

                      If in a lobby with 2 or 3 in your party and your up against noobs then fair play, that target may be attainable consistently but from my experience, after each game the majority leave if they get owned.

                       

                      As its clan ops there is the chance that you get put up against another clan that may be equally skilled therefore being a much harder game and the 45+ on a slayer being impossible to reach.

                       

                      Host migration, this occurs nearly every 1 in 5 games when I play and about 25% of the time the host migration kills the connection therefore reducing the effectivness of killing speed.

                       

                      Playing consistently well, from my experience I can top the leaderboards for about 4 - 5 games in a row then I have one terrible game (normally another member in my clan then gets the majority of the kills)

                       

                      lag, I cannot escape this, surely its the same for everyone else, some games you just can't kill people due to their being delays on your side.

                       

                      Finding players, I am in the UK so on the Europe servers, if they are in the US i can understand there being more players to find but it still takes time to fill the lobby with fresh players.

                       

                      Party players being dropped, in game and after game. this takes time to resolve.

                      • OUHATEME Novice 249 posts since
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                        OUHATEME     Jan 22, 2013 4:49 AM (in response to Ap0ca1yp3e)

                        There have been many post about this and them arguing about it being legit. But elite allows it so they are allowed to do it they do not play against unknowns, on mw3 after any clan op you could look at there recent matches and you will see everyone on the other teams going 0-25 or so. Many clans don't do that. Not bashing them for it because its elite that allows it and you have to be very organized to do it think if I remember they were hitting close to 8000. While they very well may have players with skill to get those numbers you have to control the lobby and be very organized on both sides. So for there three hours they are choreographed.

                        • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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                          LifeSong1     Jan 22, 2013 5:03 AM (in response to OUHATEME)

                          That right there is cheating and is not legit. I would go about reporting that clan in a heart beat. They are obviously abusing the system and that isn't right. Having a teammate on the other team isn't necessarily bad if they are actually trying and not truly helping. You will know if they are at least getting some kills and helping their team. If they are going 0-25 then they aren't even trying. This should be pretty obvious. I think the top 10 teams in the challenges should have to have their scores manually reviewed to see if they are legit or not. A report like that would not be hard for them to do and it helps keep the teams honest.

                           

                          That is the problem with elite. The numbers really don't mean much of anything as they aren't at all trustworthy. There are some top clans that play legit, but there are too many of them that don't and that really stinks.  Add some quality control to this whole system. Maybe even read the forums and hear about the complaints like this one. Too bad they don't seem to do that and we don't seem to be heard.

                          • Ap0ca1yp3e Novice 218 posts since
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                            Ap0ca1yp3e     Jan 22, 2013 5:26 AM (in response to LifeSong1)

                            Is there no such thing as fair game anymore?

                             

                            It is very sad that this goes on unpunished, where is the actual competition? How do I know if my clan is the top 200th or the top 50th? How do we actually know how good we are?

                             

                            It makes me wonder why we even bother with competitive gaming anymore, modded controllers, lag switching, boosting, clan xp cheating, glithing. It is highly frustrating that all this allowed, do companies not care about their name anymore, do they not care about their product?

                             

                            The customers provide all this evidence on youtube, forums, via the game, and still nothing is done, I get the feeling that 3arc are like 'well, they are obviously cheating, however, if we ban them, its going to reduce our profits', I really don't like saying that but I am starting to think its true.

                            • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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                              LifeSong1     Jan 22, 2013 5:44 AM (in response to Ap0ca1yp3e)

                              To be honest, I think that trying to manage the clan has made the game less fun for me. Managing my own site that tracks our stats is less effective now as the stats don't mean as much. Knowing that you ranked 200th doesn't mean a whole lot because you clan got extra points that you didn't earn, other clans had the same issue, some clans boosted, and thus the stats just aren't at all accurate.  Really frustrating.

                               

                              If the elite system was at all close to being reliable it would be more fun and I could possibly overlook some minor items, but the way it is right now is just unacceptable and I think Activision should be quite embarrased that they have such a buggy system out there as it looks very bad for their customers.

  • Slippers1209 Newbie 7 posts since
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    Slippers1209     Jan 21, 2013 5:23 AM (in response to OUHATEME)

    It has happened to my clan too,

     

    wouldnt mind but as we are uk this ops went live at 10pm, we played through till 1am to ensure we did well on the ops. kinda sucks doing that when you have to be up for work early the next day.

     

    sucks even harder when you dont get anything from it.

    • Tracker992 Calculating status... 2 posts since
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      Tracker992     Jan 21, 2013 5:28 AM (in response to Slippers1209)

      Yup, Can't help but wonder what's the point of it all when we put in the effort to do these things even despite the disadvantage of the US Bias.

       

      Lol, even the boards keep erroring apparently, worthless.

      • edsback41 Newbie 25 posts since
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        edsback41     Jan 21, 2013 9:37 AM (in response to Tracker992)

        I always thought that they had the weekend Op times backwards. It just makes more sense to have Saturday's Op start later and start earlier on Sunday's, even here in the U.S. But what do I know!?
        As far as Elite's errors go, I couldn't focus in this Sunday's Op. I was goofing off trying across the map axe kills during the whole Op. My score probably wouldn't show up anyway, right!? I mean... it hasn't showed up for a week now, so why try?

        If they ever fix Elite, wonder if they will adjust the scores in previous Ops and Challenges? As it is right now it looks as if I haven't been competing. That sucks!

        • LifeSong1 Apprentice 951 posts since
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          LifeSong1     Jan 21, 2013 10:49 AM (in response to edsback41)

          I am pretty sure they will not go back and fix scores from past ops. It's possible, but I think they would have to go back and re-calculate scores with every single clan op in the past. Is it possible, yes, but highly unlikely.

  • LucanDoeeet Calculating status... 7 posts since
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    LucanDoeeet     Jan 21, 2013 9:45 AM (in response to OUHATEME)

    We had the same problem and we had it on both MW3 and BO2. I am the Clan founder of the KAJN's and we are trying to finish off leveling up on MW3. Presently we are at lvl48. We are Lvl 18 on BO2. So I enroll us in ALL clan challenges and Ops for both games. When MW3 was the starter at Elite, it was all good.You could go back and look at all Ops and challenges, past, present and future. Not now. Once an Op has run it's course, there's no way to go back and look at the # of the op until you have received ur award. If there's awarding done and there's a problem, You can't look back to see what # it was to fill out the problem ticket. I'm in agreement with most when they say, Beachead has fallen down on the job as well as Activision/Treyarch for allowing it. As long as they make their billions, why should they care? We used to have weekly clan challenges which were great because it would allow a clan founder to tell in a minute who was active and who was not within the clan. Why is there no ability to message all within the clan when there is something upcoming? I could go on and on but I get the feeling that this is nothing but a place for people like us to vent and no one who CAN help will be reading it anytime soon.

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