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vxAlex Newbie 58 posts since
May 27, 2012

One-Shot Weapons Rant

Posted by vxAlex on Jan 16, 2013 1:45 PM

There is situations where skill does not affect the outcome of a gunfight. One shot weapons.

Why is it fair that when i play well, get an 11 gunstreak, take the whole team out, almost twice. That someone can camp in a corner with Flack Jacket and a Shotgun.

What do i do if i walk into a building, knowing where hes camping, jump round the corner then dropshot with an SMG, and he just fires once, and not accurately, and kills me with the abscence of skill.

 

How is this fair? It kills gameplay and stops momentum. And worst of all, i have to run across the WHOLE map just to find that his friend is now doing it.

I even try throwing C4's round the corner, but he has flack jacket so there is no point.

I have stunned, C4'd and dropshotted, but im no match for his shotgun.

Is that really balanced treyarch.

 

B23R Akimbo. Exact same story as a shotgun... Except, it can be used aswell as a shotgun.

 

I also think snipers are too easy to use, but i wont go into that.

/rant

What are your opinions on one shot weapons?

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  • CowboySr Master 3,762 posts since
    Jan 24, 2012
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    Overkill, use 870 as secondary, then go back and delete this post.

      • CowboySr Master 3,762 posts since
        Jan 24, 2012
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        Cant think of what FHJ is cause its late in the day. My point is that the guns are all a but different. If I run out in the open on Yemen I risk the chance of getting sniped. If like to swerve through the streets of yemen , I should use an smg, if I want to camp behind a car on yemen and wait for people I might consider using a LMG or AR, but If decide Im gonna run into buildings where people sit with shotguns, I should bring one too.  So Im suggesting you run SMG overkill 870, or stay where the class youve built is meant to perform at its best.

  • HTMURAZ Calculating status... 8 posts since
    Nov 22, 2012
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    i personally do not use shotguns but they seem a little better than on the previous cod title. as for one shot weapons, i use the fal and smr with select fire and fmj...not bad at all. the scar is very good although it be sluggish and cumbersome. like i said in a previous post, hopefully there will be a hotfix out just before the dlc is released which is usually the norm. this should possibly correct the issues that the 21 hotfix created.

      • T-boss Expert 1,647 posts since
        May 30, 2012
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        the KSG and remington should be closer to teh above. hit, win, miss dead.

         

        the other 2 should lack killing ability giving the other player more time to kill you.

  • myevo8you Apprentice 812 posts since
    Nov 29, 2011
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    If you know where the guy is camping and you are on a high killstreak then the best tactic is to AVOID that player. This is where a LOT of the complaints about campers come into play. Say a player camps at the laundromat spawn on slums. If the enemy team keeps coming to him and they keep getting killed, who is at fault? If I know a player is camping in an obscure place and I can avoid it I will NOT go anywhere near them. Our team plays this way too. If we find a player/team is camping we AVOID where they are camping at. We will take a lead, retreat and cut the map in 1/2 and make them come out if they want to win.

    • dweez1988 Apprentice 773 posts since
      Nov 27, 2012
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      What you said

       

      If you really want the person to die? My tip is to use FMJ and just blast through the wall since you should know where he is hiding.

      • SitRepPro Expert 2,168 posts since
        Mar 28, 2012
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        No need to use FMJ.  Use MMS on ARs instead.  Wallbanging is ridiculously easy with ARs and SMGs anyway.

  • nicedrewishfela Master 8,558 posts since
    Sep 2, 2011
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    If you can get the shot off before some of the weapons that spew bullets, more power to you.

     

    Another "I got killed and I didn't like it" thread.

    • J4M3Z Newbie 3 posts since
      Jan 16, 2013
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      Oh what a surprise, another arrogant post. You really need to get over yourself.

      • nicedrewishfela Master 8,558 posts since
        Sep 2, 2011
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        Oh, do tell.

         

        No arrogance here. Guy comes in complaining because he got killed, and you think my reply is arrogant?

         

        How about making a counter-point instead of saying something like this? Easy to sit there and make statements like this rather than make an intelligent argument.

  • Jollyjugs77 Novice 125 posts since
    Nov 27, 2012
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    dude it is called straetgy, are they suppose to run around and let you get your dogs adn swarm and wait for you and stop your streak, it a game people are gunna do crap you do not like.

     

     

    that like me saying omg snipers its not fair they are on hit kill from distance, what if i am one kill away from swarm and they pick me off!!!

     

     

    com'on man stop crying and play better

  • dstr001 Master 4,147 posts since
    May 24, 2011
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    Sorry OP, but thats how those wepoans work IRL; there would be no point in them if they didn't play as they do.

     

    Granted, sniper rifles are a tad too easy to use in this game, but shotguns still only kill in a close quarters environment, apart from the KSG, but that has to be used the same way as a sniper rifle, albeit with less range.

      • slap1i Apprentice 830 posts since
        Sep 12, 2011
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        Shotguns are designed for close range, so it makes sense that they excel at it.

      • Joco3000 Novice 321 posts since
        Nov 25, 2012
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        You have to remember that they are not very good at long range.

         

        Is it me or is every single one of these Anti Shotgun threads posted by a SMG user?

  • maccabi Master 11,977 posts since
    May 31, 2011
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    vxAlex wrote:

     

     

    What do i do if i walk into a building, knowing where hes camping,

    if it was me on an 11 killstreak not walk into the building and try being a twatty drop shooter and let someone else deal with him

    • snorubit Novice 380 posts since
      Dec 21, 2012
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      Yes. If I felt I couldn't take him or her out for whatever reason then I would look for somebody else to kill. Play to your strengths not weaknesses.

       

      Now, I have not had a problem against shotgun classes myself but that's a whole other can of worms. I do admit that I have enjoyed using them since COD4 though.

  • NoLifeKing29 Expert 1,582 posts since
    Jan 8, 2013
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    Weak complaint. Play HC so OHKs wont upset you as much.

  • MoonUnit Newbie 55 posts since
    Jan 9, 2013
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    OP jumps around corners, is using an SMG, dropshots, and throws C4. Sounds like you're a total try-hard and are just upset that someone is beating you. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

  • Jollyjugs77 Novice 125 posts since
    Nov 27, 2012
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    op watch dodge ball the movie, it teaches you how to dodge everything, get your skill up, i have no problem killing anyone in this game, dont run and gun in a building play smart throw flashes c4 nades sensor do what every you have to to get the job done, no one likes a complainer!!!

  • greatsirkain Calculating status... 21 posts since
    Jan 16, 2013
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    I was going to join your rant with an addition about quickscoping (guy just dropped two of us, me with a hmg and the other guy had an smg, point blank with a bolt action rifle. He didn't even no scope when I watched the kill cam, all you saw on his screen was him doing the truffle shuffle and dodging every single bullet while he casualy zooms in and head shots us from 3 inches away - frustrating) but after reading your rant...Flack jacket and shotgun you say? Cheers bud!

     

    seriously though I wish I'd saved that clip and put it in slow-mo with 'who wants to live forever' by queen playing in the background

  • Photoman23 Novice 173 posts since
    Aug 19, 2012
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    If all guns did the same damage with the same amount of bullets at the same range....why would there be a need for more than 1 gun in the game.  Unless they are using a KSG, then your SMG or AR will get them at a distance, but in close quarters shotguns are what they are Extremely powerful one shot weapons...that's why there is one next to my bed.

     

    I am surprised noone has blamed your complaint on LAG, Bahahahahaha!!!

  • iivrruummii Master 3,892 posts since
    Sep 23, 2011
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    I see nothing wrong with shotguns being good for close quarters.  Same with pistols.

  • T-boss Expert 1,647 posts since
    May 30, 2012
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    shotguns work at close rnage. the only reason tehy are being used for camping is corner camping spots in rooms are usualy close range, making shotguns ideal.

     

    but they arnt hard to deal with. OHK weapons have much more restriction than other weapons, only issue is 3arch got rid of some of those restrictions or lessened them greatly. for shotguns remington and KSG lost alot of their high risk/high reward gameplay, low pump speed will fix that some. there is no all or nothing shotgun, liky the rangers in MW2 or olympia in BO. the S12 and 4burst are fine power wise, they should be weaker and outguned at shorter ranges, but lack the high risk if you screw up.

     

    snipers need LMG ADS time. then they will be fine.

      • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 730 posts since
        Dec 27, 2012
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        So even though the R870, the best of the shottys, is statistically inferior to pretty much every other CoDs best shotgun, it still needs to be nerfed? Sorry, no.

         

        Oh, and comparing a game to real life doesn't validate your point any; If you have experienced a gunfight in real life, you'd know that you dont respawn when someone puts 3 bullets in your face. See?

  • nintendon\'t Master 4,012 posts since
    Jul 16, 2011
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    You're complaining about a shotgunner while abusing an easy SMG? Really? You're both scrubs.

  • xxxdcleaterxxx Newbie 40 posts since
    Nov 28, 2012
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    poor drop shotter gets snuffed by a shotty, what's the problem? 

  • Restore_Hardcore Expert 2,318 posts since
    Dec 10, 2012
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    Kick dirt in his eyes and cast a spell on him when he is stunned. Or do what I do, tube em.

  • ThatIdiot Novice 206 posts since
    Nov 15, 2012
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    So you are on a 11 killstreak, using a smg while dropshotting and you complain about someone who uses a shotgun because he is sick of you in-game?

     

    Gtfo

  • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 730 posts since
    Dec 27, 2012
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    Pro tip - shotgun range gunfights should be avoided as a general rule of thumb, just in case they have a shotty. If someone wants to sit in a corner with FJ, sod it, let em. Call it out to your team and let everyone avoid them so they either have a real boring game or get up and move.

  • DaveW Novice 265 posts since
    Dec 2, 2011
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    I love them. In fact I have a class specifically set up which includes 2 of these type weapons. Overkill with a shotgun and sniper rifle. Its a great set up and you should try it. Especially with a Guardian!

  • DR65DR Novice 366 posts since
    Dec 9, 2011
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    I run a pistol-only class for certain maps and use the Tac .45 or Five Seven (I hate the spammers' pistols: B23R and Kap-40) and only play Hardcore. If I posted a thread up every time I got killed by someone… well, this would be a busy board.

  • lPikachu Novice 253 posts since
    Nov 14, 2012
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    Perfectly fair, ive been annoyed by shottys killing me in one hit before swarms (the last few days it seems there has been massive increase in the use of shottys) But if you go into their range its your fault, and the KSG has plenty of bad things so you cant complain about the range on that

     

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      If you know where the guy is camping and you are on a high killstreak then the best tactic is to AVOID that player

       

    This is what you should do. I always avoid long range pathways when i know there is a sniper at the end, and avoid going into houses where i know someone has a 870. Its your own fault if you fall victim to these specialised weapons, you should be telling your self to play smarter, not complaining about the weapons.

    • Bielsalmighty Apprentice 730 posts since
      Dec 27, 2012
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      CoDlogic101: The player is never at fault, always the game, game balance, cheap tactics of others, lag, or a mixture of any and all of the aforementioned factors.

    • DaveW Novice 265 posts since
      Dec 2, 2011
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      Exactly right, If i equip the Remmy I expect to get easy kills within buildings and in tight situations so I play my game based on how its going to turn out best for me. I'm not going to run out into the open with a shotty and try and 'test its range'.

       

      Equip over kill and have the best of both worlds..... short and long range.

  • sgtDLC Novice 226 posts since
    Dec 5, 2012
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    Flashbang, concusion, then enter the house and kill him, problem solved

    • DaveW Novice 265 posts since
      Dec 2, 2011
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      Wouldn't work on me ......I rarely run any class that does not include Tac mask and Jug Vest.  I don't get players who run the marathon or extreme conditioning the maps are small enough as it is and they are littered with claymores' betties and shocks.

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