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Engineer isn't a must use perk but it will spare you alot of frustrating deaths. I either use Tac mask or engineer on almost all my classes.

In my opinion, Engineer is vital and is on all of my classes except my shotgun class which has Extreme Conditioning and Dexterity.

I'm playing a lot of Hardcore lately like I always used to and would never play it without the Engineer/Dead Silence/Black Hat combo.

I'm NEVER killed by Sentry/Guardian/Betty/Claymore

I use it a lot simply because for my playstyle it is the best third tier perk in most cases.  However, I also keep a flak jacket/tac mask class on hand for when I need to cap that B flag and know that it's going to be bombarded while I'm doing it.  Tac Mask is really incredible in this game.  But again it goes back to playstyle.  If you are going to rush in regardless, then I'd say Tac Mask is more useful but if you are going to take a more cautious approach then Engineer would be the better pick.

I feel as though the only thing engineer cant run throughh is stock charges. Ive tried everyday of my life and i still get electrecuted. Something has to be done about this. To answermthe OP, i use engineer on all my classes. I cant stand silly deaths

Esseantial for me, every class i use runs Engineer for sure. Engi/Emp is just ridiculous. Ive lost count how many times a bloke has put down a sentry/guardian and i have IMMEDIATELY emp'd it + the surrounding shock charges and betties. Engi/Emp completely removes the danger of those 2 low end scorestreaks and said equipment for me. Plus you get a decent amount of points for taking anything out, which definetly helps for scorestreaks

I use it all the time,along with 2x blackhats. Before its unlocked,i just drop to the ground and survive the betty.

Engineer is really only needed if your trying to sneak up on a camper or turn his equipment against him with Black Hat. It depends on your play style. If you are slow and methodical, you need it. If you run and gun, you don't. You just slap on Tactical Mask and Flak Jacket, and you're an unstoppable rushing machine.

It's definetly NOT a must use perk. I prefer Tact Mask over engineer any day.

With a majority of people I come across spamming Betties, Shock Charges, Concussions, and Flashes, Engineer and/or Tactical Mask do feel almost mandatory to use (the rerolling of Care Packages + booby trapping enemies ones is nice too). I've found myself using Perk 3 Greed more often and using BOTH sometimes, especially on a rusher class like SMG or Shotguns, more so than Dexterity and/or Extreme Conditioning at times.

Dexterity WOULD be quite nice if I wasn't on the losing end of lag/lag compensation so much, thus the "aim faster after sprinting" effect is pretty much useless because whoever I come across will be a second or more ahead of me anyway.

So while Engineer may not be "must use", it IS one of the most useful ones, though, as mentioned, it can also depend on your playstyle.

enginner and tacmask are the best. simply becuase there is alot more mines this time around. and you can scavange mines. + a mine tactical. but the other 2 suck mostly because they are useless. lagcomp ruins dextarity. but improve built in lagcomp, dextarity would be usefull to rushers. deadsilance/awarness are useless. mostly from footsteps being silent. engineer is up to par with those being louder. tacmask is good in cetrin moods, and with all the shotcharges laying around. shockcharges need a nerf eather A making htem virtualy useless as normal tacticals, inable to be used as mines, or something similar.

i hardly use engineer much myself i use er either awareness or dead silence or extreme conditioning

just throw an emp grenade into the middle of the map and it'll take out most of the stuff deployed on the map.

I think tac mask, engineer or dexterity are the must use 3rd tier perks.

Extreme conditiong isn't that great because rushing isn't as popular because you die so fast if you get caught with a couple bullets, which is really weird because it seems like from my perspective it seems like i shoot someone 4 or 5 times before they die. But sometimes I get caught with 1 bullet and die it seems, but then when it shows the kill cam it shows they shot me more than once, however when I was actually playing it never showed I was being shot because screen didnt turn red.

Awareness/dead silence doesn't really help me anyways because I am hearing impaired, so that's why when I play online and use my mic I normally request team mates to talk loudly. This is also why I have been trying to spread word to treyarch to create a hearing impaired dlc or settings thing for zombies and multiplayer. With the bad hit detection if my screen doesnt turn red sometimes I don't know I'm being shot at.

Tac mask is great for avoiding tactical stuff/ combined with flak jacket this is a good combo for running into buildings to kill campers/ people playing defensively.

Engineer is a must have if the enemy is getting a lot of scorestreak, combine Engineer with the black hat and take out their scorestreaks quickly. Another good thing about the blackhat is when you destroy enemy equipment they give you a good amount of points. Enemy equipment gets you 50 points each and scorestreaks scores you 150 points each. So I recommend carrying 2 black hats paired with engineer in one of your classes.

Scavenger is an awesome perk if your running without a secondary... some people say why do you like scavenger, well it's simple scavenger refills not only your ammo but also your lethal and tactical equipment, which is great if your posting up in an area because you can just keep throwing down shock charges and bouncing betties or see someone coming and hit them with a flash and a semtex.

This post is a bit lengthy, but this is just some of my insight on some of the perks. i like other combinations as well but I think this is long enough so I don't go too off topic

Third tier perks really determine how your playstyle is.

If you choose Engineer, then of course, you're a flanker or somewhere along those lines.

Dexterity, you're a rusher + a flanker.

Tac mask, you're an objective player that flanks as well as a rusher.

What I'm saying is that Engineer isn't the ONLY must use perk. Dexterity, Tac Mask and Extreme Conditioning are also a must use according to your playstyle.

I agree with mostly everyone on this page. But for one, betties are a noob's explosive. there's seldom a time where they are placed in a position where destruction or engineer is needed to dodge them. Most betties are dodgeable. The only frustration I've had with BB's are when im shootingan enemy and they toss out their betty cuz they cant win the gunfight and unless your dropshotting or running engineer your not likely to dodge this cowards tractic.

claymores are easily more visible but are alot more tricky to dodge without engineer on flak jacket eliminates this problem altogether. but if your facing a bunch a betty losers run tactician with 1 black hat/ 1 emp grenade each. this gives your versatility as t choose how you wanna go about getting past equipment.